#1132: "Yay!"

[Kim]

Originally Posted by tacticslion

I actually have no problem with NonCon.

Then you haven't read enough of my posts.

[lackofsense]

Originally Posted by russianreversal

Wait a second... lackofsense? Did you really make an account just to make that point? I mean, I can totally get behind ruining people's movies in the name of fun, but damn. There's so much more that doesn't make sense with the matrix, seeing in electricity is the least of its problems.

On another note, I like how BM is the only one who ever has expressions beyond his sprite's capabilities.

I made the account for a purpose that was lost during the 2 days it took for the registration e-mail to reach my inbox

Anyway, I can't wait for the next comic. Brian's work is indeed awesome. I hope that onion kid is related to some kind of universal reconstruction.

[russianreversal]

Originally Posted by lackofsense

I made the account for a purpose that was lost during the 2 days it took for the registration e-mail to reach my inbox

Anyway, I can't wait for the next comic. Brian's work is indeed awesome. I hope that onion kid is related to some kind of universal reconstruction.

Probably. He'll be the one blamed the next time someone ruins it.

[Molotovich]

Mmmmmmm that makes me think, who is really Black Mage?

I mean, he could simply DESTROY everyone by showing them his face (I mean, he broke onion kid, probably forever, and probably beyond any way of recovery)

Or MAYBE, thats what Sarda is actually Looking for... or worse... BM IS Sarda

Dun dun dun!

[Codemonkey85]

Originally Posted by Kurosen

This is how I hope to go out.

I'm sure Mashirosen would love to see this.

Originally Posted by Molotovich

he could simply DESTROY everyone by showing them his face (I mean, he broke onion kid, probably forever, and probably beyond any way of recovery)

But his frail self-image won't allow him to do it on purpose.

Anyway, with BM, what you see is what you get basically. He's a jerk. There's no secret there.

[tacticslion]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Then you haven't read enough of my posts.

Oh, right! Sorry. I forgot that once NonCon shows up it ruins it for everybody. And by "it" I mean "everything, ever."

Originally Posted by people who disagree with me on literary theory

Your wrong!

I respectfully disagree with your disagreements of disagreeing with me!

While I understand the nature of what your saying (i.e. "it seems this way to me") the actual work is based off of the author's intents. If the work is purposefully subvertive - that is if it completely represents an idea under false pretenses (such as writing a love song to heroine) - it's meant to be subvertive. That is, it's a work that hides the "truth" in a "lie". In the afore-mentioned case it, yeah it's a song written as a love-poem to heroine... but so what? Heroine is never mentioned in the song. It is, in fact, a "love song". It was written to a very horrible thing, but that doesn't stop it from being what it is, a song written about emotional obsession (often termed "love" in English) and thus, that's what it comes out. Again the "target" of the song is never mentioned until after the fact.

Thus I partially accept the rebuttles. If an author makes claims about part of a message after the fact that may be lost. The work is still built around that premise - it's still part of the themes of the work - but it's done so poorly. If a certain aspect isn't represented within the work, than it's not represented. There is a gap or void of information. The is then work is less-well-made than it seemed. It doesn't mean it's a poor work.

The Harry Potter series was a fun and interesting series, and very well written (although the last one felt a bit... rushed at the end in some places). Dumbledore being "gay" was something that came out of left field. Completely. There was never any real evidence of it at all, unless you count a male being celebate his entire known life "gay". Still, the author wrote (apparently) with that in mind. That was part of Dumbledore's motivations. He is who he is because he (in Rowling's mind) was gay. We weren't privvy to this the entire series... so it's irrelevant. True, perhaps, but it made zero impact on the series, thus irrelevant.

Again, the author is inherently correct (unless intentionally being misleading) in their statements about their own work. People can choose to accept different messages than the ones that were intended. Sometimes an author can make a work poorly enough not to send the message they desire. That doesn't mean they're incorrect. It just means they didn't send the message well.

So to make a long post short ("too late!") Panthera is right. Canon-meaning, original purpose, and actual message is determined solely by the author. Personal understanding is determined by the readers (which is inherent whenever anyone gives anyone else a message). If a message is misinterpreted on a broad scale, the author has failed to send the proper message.

And russianreversal: eat something, man! Sheesh!

[david_in_perth]

Originally Posted by tacticslion

...(such as writing a love song to heroine)...yeah it's a song written as a love-poem to heroine... but so what? Heroine is never mentioned in the song...It was written to a very horrible thing...

Heroine: A female hero.
...sounds the same as...
Heroin: A powerful and addictive drug derived from opium producing intense euphoria classed as a narcotic in most of the world.

I think you meant Heroin rather than Heroine.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Oh.

[david_in_perth]

It's funny, because writing a love song to a heroine would actually be a fairly sensible thing to do...

"Oh, White Mage, you are so brave and wonderful..."

[tacticslion]

Heh, oops. Dyslexia. Apparently it means I suck at spelling. Thanks!