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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:06 PM   #191
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All of these things assume I have certain spells. Well, apparently healing spells don't work with subdual damage, and there was nothing I could have done to evade that situation. As I said, the DM wanted it to happen, there's no use fighting the DM. We did eventually escape, after an hour of being tortured by a villain we had previously deposed of, and our own revenge upon him was quite nasty, yet apt (he was a demon, and we sent him into the sea of holy water in the first level of celestria). Yeah, I'd rather have improved spell capacity than improved metamagic, but I'm short on feat slots. The one unfortunate thing about multiclassing and prestige classes is that because I'm technically only a 13th level sorcer, I don't have access to epic bonus feats. Don't get me wrong, being a half dragon has its perks, but feat slots are a scarcity which I must use wisely. But my biggest advantage will be epic spells. I have a talent for designing them, and have a few of great power, one, (which will be suprisingly easy to cast) which will cause destruction on such a wide scale that it will practically equate a mid-sized tactical nuke (conjur a meteor, transport it to the stratosphere, and allow it to fall, letting natural physics take its course).
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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:37 PM   #192
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All of these things assume I have certain spells. Well, apparently healing spells don't work with subdual damage, and there was nothing I could have done to evade that situation. As I said, the DM wanted it to happen, there's no use fighting the DM. We did eventually escape, after an hour of being tortured by a villain we had previously deposed of, and our own revenge upon him was quite nasty, yet apt (he was a demon, and we sent him into the sea of holy water in the first level of celestria). Yeah, I'd rather have improved spell capacity than improved metamagic, but I'm short on feat slots. The one unfortunate thing about multiclassing and prestige classes is that because I'm technically only a 13th level sorcer, I don't have access to epic bonus feats. Don't get me wrong, being a half dragon has its perks, but feat slots are a scarcity which I must use wisely. But my biggest advantage will be epic spells. I have a talent for designing them, and have a few of great power, one, (which will be suprisingly easy to cast) which will cause destruction on such a wide scale that it will practically equate a mid-sized tactical nuke (conjur a meteor, transport it to the stratosphere, and allow it to fall, letting natural physics take its course).
Shapechange is an amazingly useful spell ,you should have it. And as logn character levels > 20, you can get epic feats, no matter what, barring the skill/feat requirements.
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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:37 PM   #193
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Well, apparently healing spells don't work with subdual damage
What do you mean by this? Healing spells are effective against subdual and lethal damage simultanously, that is if you have 3 points of subdual damage and 3 points of lethal damage and heal for 3 points, all of your damage is healed. Was this some sort of super subdual damage that cheats the laws of the planes?
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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:45 PM   #194
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What do you mean by this? Healing spells are effective against subdual and lethal damage simultanously, that is if you have 3 points of subdual damage and 3 points of lethal damage and heal for 3 points, all of your damage is healed. Was this some sort of super subdual damage that cheats the laws of the planes?
DM fiat. Go figure.
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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:47 PM   #195
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I thought subdual damage is damage to your hit points like lethal damage, but instead of killing you it knocks you unconcious. Examples of subdual weapons are any non-monk's fists and saps. Healing doesn't affect subdual damage because it technically isn't harmful damage.
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Unread 06-25-2004, 08:58 PM   #196
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I thought subdual damage is damage to your hit points like lethal damage, but instead of killing you it knocks you unconcious. Examples of subdual weapons are any non-monk's fists and saps. Healing doesn't affect subdual damage because it technically isn't harmful damage.
It does, because it's still damage, and healing spells are explicitly stated as affecting both normal and subdual damage at once.
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Unread 06-25-2004, 09:19 PM   #197
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HeY, I'm a Shadowrun RPer that wants to get into D&D. I was thinking of making my first character as close to an evil Black Mage Necromancer as I could. What books would I want to buy to get the full potential for my character?
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Unread 06-25-2004, 09:34 PM   #198
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Okay let me explain subdual damage. It works as thus. As you gain more points of subdual damage, your total amount of subdual damage goes up. When your total amount of subdual damage is greater than your current amount of hit points, you are unconscious. When you are healed, you are healed for both normal damage and your total amount of subdual damage is decreased by that amount as well.
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Buy? Download, and you shall pay much less :thief:
Well, you could try the Player's Handbook, and Tome and Blood.
If you were going to DM, I'd suggest getting the DMG and the Monster Manual.

Edit: This was meant for the void mage guy.
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Unread 06-25-2004, 09:39 PM   #200
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As to the healing thing, all I know was that the Party NPC Cleric shouted in the middle of it that he "didn't have any spells to heal this type of damage." And yes, I know I can get epic feats, its a matter of how many epic feats I can get. A level 21 sorcerer gets nearly twice as many feats as a 11th level sorcerer 10th level something else. Bonus feats. I get none of those. I'm thinking about taking a few levels in wizard just to allow me a few bonus feats, and catch up on my serious lack of metamagic feats (I have several, but they are esoteric. Silent Spell, Still Spell, Replace Energy [fire]; Augment Energy [fire], and Purify Spell). But I've got a kick-ass prestige class I'm almost able to get now: Planeshifter, which will drop me my own demiplane by the end of it (a nice convenience). But after that, I may just go wizard for a while although it would be a little out of character (in character, I've shown some small dislike of wizards in general), but I feel the call of the munchkin, and I really could use some more metamagic feats.
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