Talking about Mass Effect 3 With Spoilers

[Bells]

Well, they kinda deal with Wrex, since he could be killed in ME1 and that Decision carries over to ME2, they couldn't re-instate the guy as a teammate. So much that he has a short part in ME2 if he was alive by the end of ME1.

Considering how the deaths play out in ME2, it's not absurd to imagine that all characters in ME2 will be like, leaders of smaller groups in ME3 that you join for a couple of missions before hoping to another zone, all the while making a new team with brand new characters.

I Mean... they can't make huge chunks or Plot important material connected to characters that not all players might have on their save files... and everyone could die in ME2... so... it's not like there is a way around it...

[Eltargrim]

Page 2 necro? Who cares? Nothing is better than Commander Shepard!

[Bells]

and by the way, there is new ME2 DLC coming to connect ME2 to ME3 before launch

[Solid Snake]

I'm not the world's biggest Kaidan fan but hot shit, he looks awesome in the newly released image.




...Looks like Kaidan and Liara confirmed for squadmates? Wonder if that means Ashley's coming back too, if you left her alive in ME1.

[Kerensky287]

I'm kind of wondering what they're doing about old squadmates actually. Considering that the only one of them that is 100% certain to be alive is Liara... I dunno, it feels like either they'll a) disappoint people by removing all but a few of the veterans or b) try to put in everyone, marginalizing the new folks and giving people who DIDN'T get full-survivorship the short end of the stick.

That said, Garrus had better be in. If Legion is unplayable for any reason I will be sore as well.

I'm wondering how influential the DLC will be, as well. If you didn't beat Lair of the Shadow Broker, is the idea that Liara went and took the base down herself offscreen? Or will they actually change aspects of gameplay by giving you the Shadow Broker's resources if you bought and completed that scenario?

Of course they might just destroy the Shadow Broker's base in the first 5 minutes to put everyone on even footing but this is one of those cases that just typifies "if you try to please everyone you will please no one."

EDIT: I am stupid and did not read the previous 6 pages so my points have probably been addressed already.

TO ADD SOMETHING NEW TO THE DISCUSSION: Anybody beat The Arrival? Anybody else kind of disappointed at how seemingly inconsequential it was considering the hype?

EDIT 2: The worst part of my original post was that I apparently responded to this thread at least once anyway and just forgot EVERYTHING.

[Osterbaum]

Yeah Arrival was somewhat of a let down. It's only importance was at setting it up so, that Shepard is responsible for the destruction of a star system and will have to answer for that in some way at some point. I mean as far as delaying the Reapers goes, they could've just said that the Reapers are "in dark space and it will take them X months to reach our galaxy".

Also seeing as how the Arrival ended, delaying the Reapers and all, I think the game propably wont begin with the Reaper invasion.

e: Also new screens. Also, also the realease has been delayed.

e2: Also notice this. You know I wouldn't be so pessimistic about this if Dragon Age II hadn't sucked monkey balls.

[Solid Snake]

http://kotaku.com/5800972/five-new-m...t-want-to-hear

Fffffuuuuuccccckkkkk not as many cast members as in ME3? That sucks. If Garrus and Tali are not squadmates (particularly when we're visiting their damn homeworlds) I WILL BE DISAPPOINT =/

EDIT: Garrus was confirmed as party member YES


http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...ng-garrus.aspx

EDIT 2: Apparently there were tons of updates while I was busy studying. Tali's been confirmed too.

"Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and (newly confirmed) Tali are all full-time members of your team if they survived the previous games."

http://gamenyusu.com/component/conte...-pc-gamer.html

...There also appears to be rampant speculation that Legion's been all-but confirmed as party member because he has a featured ME3 story via GameInformer.

[Revising Ocelot]

Less party members + the current "confirmed" old ones = absolutely no new party member characters?

I'm all for Garrus and Tali, but you can't just exclude new blood.

[Osterbaum]

How about the party members that were introduced in ME2? Out of all of them there are only a few that I wouldn't mind seeing in anything but passing; Jacob, Kasumi, Zaeed. Everyone else I'd much like to be able to have in your party, or failing that have real importance to the story otherwise.

e: Also BioWare says less party members. ME2 had 13 (if you got Kasumi). So having for example 10 party members is already clearly less. I'd say that 8 is an absolute minimum of party members. That being said, I don't think that having a few members of your party less isn't necesarrily bad if it allows them to focus more on character development with the ones that do end up being in your party.

e2: Also you can have meaningful interactions and character development with characters that aren't in your party if they otherwise make frequent appearances.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

Less party members + the current "confirmed" old ones = absolutely no new party member characters?

I'm all for Garrus and Tali, but you can't just exclude new blood.

There is at least one confirmed new squadmate character, a human named James (what is it with humans and names beginning with J?) He is an alliance dude who is apparently related to the main character of a comic spinoff.

I'd say his inclusion is bad news for those hoping Jacob returns as a squadmate. But that's just speculation regarding his unpopularity and the number of human males on the team.

EDIT: Bioware did say that some ME2 characters would remain on the Normandy (if alive) but not provide combat support as a permanent squadmate. Mordin for example will still be your scientist but won't join you for ground missions. Except maybe a special one on his homeworld or something. That is how a few of the characters will be handled.