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Unread 08-24-2011, 04:24 AM   #31
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Third picture is cool too. Heh someone's gonna die after that face.
That's the idea.

I can't really do a face like that if Kit is still in her anime-style look..


EDIT: After looking through my DA gallery, as well as HIKYM, I'm really not sure what it is I'm changing about the way I do things... That's kind of annoying, really. I thought I've been exploring a whole new way of doing stuff, but I just seem to be slightly modifying what I've already done
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Unread 08-30-2011, 10:14 PM   #32
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The strong lining of the lips in the non-anime look kind of bugs me. It gives a sort of fishmouthed look.

Which is, I guess, why so many animaters draw female characters with lipstick. Because accentuating the mouth with lines without making it stand out too much is hard.
I guess you've already experimented with both shorter and weaker lines?
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Unread 08-30-2011, 10:36 PM   #33
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That latest version looks much better. It's not a huge shift, but it doesn't have to be.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 08:56 PM   #34
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I like the current style better, but it could just be because it is what I am used to. But the art is part of what pulled me in, and the revision just isn't grabbing me. Small as my vote is, I prefer the status quo on this, Kit especially works really well as she is and the revisions just don't seem as... Nice, I guess.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 09:39 PM   #35
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Changes have already been made. So there's not really a vote on it. The status quo is just gonna have to be pissed off I guess :P

I prefer the new way muuuuch more, and so does Brian. So I'm sticking with it.
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Unread 09-03-2011, 10:00 PM   #36
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Whatever is easier for you.

Personally, I think Liz looks great (I will miss the whole cigarette/no mouth thing Liz had going though. That was pretty neat.) and while I ain't too hot on the porno lips that Kit is sporting in your examples I don't think it will distract too much.
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Unread 09-04-2011, 07:48 AM   #37
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This style is actually harder. It feels easier, but I think that's because I have more fun doing it.

Still, I think it looks better, and it's more suitable for me and the comic, so I'm sticking with it regardless.
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Unread 09-04-2011, 08:08 AM   #38
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I'm curious how that style works on the actual pages. Still not sold on Kit's lips, though, that's the only thing I don't like. My main issue is, that they raise the question how Kit could afford plastic surgery.

At the very least I can say your style is quite unique. The more manga inspired as well as the new direction aren't generic at all.
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Unread 09-04-2011, 08:35 AM   #39
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Kit can have large lips w/o resorting to plastic surgery, can't she? (she has pretty big boobs too, come to think of it -- something I'm also altering with the new style).. I don't know what kind of facial characteristics people thought a "real life" Kit would have, but I had my own ideas for her.

AND...for the purposes of "Behind the Scenes" info I will talk about it (since that's what this thread is supposed to be about). Long Winded InformationWhen I draw people with more "real life" faces, I always try to think about who I would have them be played by in a movie. This is mainly a superficial thing. It gives me a base to work from, and it helps me keep the faces somewhat consistent as the story goes (I learned this from a comic artist who did one of those "How to Draw Comics" things that used to run in "Wizard" magazine). I do this on HIKYM too. I'm not gonna say who my "stars" are, though (Fang Lin's is kinda funny). Besides, I change them enough so you probably couldn't tell anyway (some of my guys are based on girls). This new style in The Dreadful is a bit different than HIKYM's, but I still used the same method when I first came up with it. For Kit, I really liked her model's face, it had a lot of energy. I also liked how cute she looked when she was relaxed. Kit has since diverged quite a bit from the model I began with, and I probably didn't do the best job in the first place. Still, that might be where Kit's full lips came from (I've got the hang of drawing Kit now and I don't even look at the pictures anymore). I didn't bring it up before because..uhh..no real reason. I just never thought to bring it up..*shrugs*.. Still, I really liked the model's face and I LOVE the way Kit looks now.

That above info was just me blabbering on about the process like I love doing. It's probably not all that important (which is why I put it in swap tags).


Plus, in my opinion, larger lips indicate a more youthful face and they work better on Kit. I dunno if that's an actual artistic thing or just a personal opinion tho.
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Unread 09-04-2011, 09:01 AM   #40
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Eh, I never gave a thought to Kit's ethnicity, though, seeing as I live in a country populated by the aryan master race the most natural assumption to make would be that she's white. The only race I know that is stereotypically known are black people and even then I never really met one with big lips. I'm not really aware of anything else and Kit doesn't make a very black impression on me. If you're saying bigger lips are a feature half-demondevilthings (whatever Kit will turn out to be) then it'll probably be easier for me to accept that they look so very very big.

Still, it's not like I want to make a big deal out of Kit's lips, it's just the one detail that seems kinda off in my eyes, and telling you to draw your own comic differently isn't something I'd want to do. Especially after you've already heard what people had to say about the subject but decided to keep it anyway. You have your reasons.

On a related subject: Man, I'm not a fan of big boobs at all, I demand that you to draw them smaller!!!
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