Race and Gaming - Page 3

icythaco · 11-14-2004, 10:31 PM

Agreed. When I started the whole discrimanation/stereotyping thing I was just pointing out a verbal inaccuracy: I wasn't trying to promote descrimination, just showing a flaw in the English language.

ChaosMage · 11-15-2004, 11:46 AM

First off, I'd like to say that that girl....wow. And the mother? Geesh.

The case of discrimination is interesting. I make it a personal goal to satire anything I can any chance I get. My favorite, recurring lines are "I hate white/colored people" (Depending on the situation, and I'm from India btw) and "I can do anything I want, because I'm Asian." Why the second one? Because its true. Me and a white kid, walking next to eachother in the halls during a class one day. Stopped the white kid, I kept on walking no problem. He had a pass, I didn't.

Theres a standardized test, its all secret and high-security BS. Basically, while the test is going on no one can enter or leave the room. But I can get away with it, 'cuz I'm Asian. Our English teacher's room had been occupied for the test, but I needed to get something out of the room. So, in the middle of the exam I open the door, walk in, get what I need and walk out and close the door without saying a word. I was in there for a full minute, and there wasn't a problem.

I would say its an attitude thats been ingrained into the local society. I live about 2 hours north of Kentucky in Indiana. Not quite deep south, but I'll still see a confederate flag. Its an urban/rural mixture. We have 3 colleges in town, but are surrounded by farms. Theres definetely some overt predudices, such as the shirts that were passed around the highschool saying "My mommy's a woman and my daddy's a man. Protect traditional marriage, vote for LaPlante," and there are constant stories about some sort of white vs black gang war, even though there are no gangs. Its a town of 56,000 during the summer and 71,000 during the school year. Its not big enough to have gangs.

The prejudices that exist, I would say, are the result of training. People around here are used to the Asian kids being the genius good kids. And we are, kinda. I'm definetely something of a 'wild child' though no one notices, 'cuz I'm Asian. Nature/Nurture, is what it comes down to. We've got a long way to go to fix prejudices, but at least in my town its not too bad. I'm not even sure if this little story I've told you is relevant or applicable to other forms of racism, white vs black for example, but now I've typed this, so you're gonna read it dammit =)

Sesshoumaru · 11-15-2004, 06:44 PM

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That's not what he said. What he in fact said was:

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I'm guessing due to warped personal belief and not religious teachings

read what he said next time. Please don't read one line and assume that you know what the rest of what he said was based on that one line. what i got out of this was that she had some sort of mental illness and that the way it expressed itself was a paranoic hatred. nobodys fault, just all around bad luck.
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If he didn't want to take a shot at her religion, why did he bother saying anything about it in the first place?

Swimming Bird · 11-15-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru

If he didn't want to take a shot at her religion, why did he bother saying anything about it in the first place?

Because she tried to convert students in class to her theology with propaganda supported by her religious beliefs.

Her religion is irrelevant, she could have been a muslim, hindu, taoist, etc. The point I was trying to make was that she was using religion itself as a shield to justify her actions.

It seems this post has offered a good segue into a larger issue. I feel it is a good topic for debate; do you feel that religion fans the flame of racial bigotry or suppresses it?

Sesshoumaru · 11-15-2004, 08:43 PM

See, you didn't tell us that in your previous post. It makes more sense in the proper context.

And I have to say that overall, religion surpresses racism. What most people don't seem to understand is that racism against blacks did not become widespread until after Bacon's Rebellion (about 1676); it was instituted by wealthy plantation owners as a way to keep both disgruntled freedmen and slaves under control (by making blacks the lowest of the low, they kept them downtrodden and made the poor whites feel better about their own station in life).

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11-15-2004, 11:46 AM	#22
ChaosMage Evil Makes Me Smile Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Where Spyware Comes to Die Posts: 904	First off, I'd like to say that that girl....wow. And the mother? Geesh. The case of discrimination is interesting. I make it a personal goal to satire anything I can any chance I get. My favorite, recurring lines are "I hate white/colored people" (Depending on the situation, and I'm from India btw) and "I can do anything I want, because I'm Asian." Why the second one? Because its true. Me and a white kid, walking next to eachother in the halls during a class one day. Stopped the white kid, I kept on walking no problem. He had a pass, I didn't. Theres a standardized test, its all secret and high-security BS. Basically, while the test is going on no one can enter or leave the room. But I can get away with it, 'cuz I'm Asian. Our English teacher's room had been occupied for the test, but I needed to get something out of the room. So, in the middle of the exam I open the door, walk in, get what I need and walk out and close the door without saying a word. I was in there for a full minute, and there wasn't a problem. I would say its an attitude thats been ingrained into the local society. I live about 2 hours north of Kentucky in Indiana. Not quite deep south, but I'll still see a confederate flag. Its an urban/rural mixture. We have 3 colleges in town, but are surrounded by farms. Theres definetely some overt predudices, such as the shirts that were passed around the highschool saying "My mommy's a woman and my daddy's a man. Protect traditional marriage, vote for LaPlante," and there are constant stories about some sort of white vs black gang war, even though there are no gangs. Its a town of 56,000 during the summer and 71,000 during the school year. Its not big enough to have gangs. The prejudices that exist, I would say, are the result of training. People around here are used to the Asian kids being the genius good kids. And we are, kinda. I'm definetely something of a 'wild child' though no one notices, 'cuz I'm Asian. Nature/Nurture, is what it comes down to. We've got a long way to go to fix prejudices, but at least in my town its not too bad. I'm not even sure if this little story I've told you is relevant or applicable to other forms of racism, white vs black for example, but now I've typed this, so you're gonna read it dammit =)

11-15-2004, 08:43 PM	#25
Sesshoumaru Tyrannus Rex Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 616	See, you didn't tell us that in your previous post. It makes more sense in the proper context. And I have to say that overall, religion surpresses racism. What most people don't seem to understand is that racism against blacks did not become widespread until after Bacon's Rebellion (about 1676); it was instituted by wealthy plantation owners as a way to keep both disgruntled freedmen and slaves under control (by making blacks the lowest of the low, they kept them downtrodden and made the poor whites feel better about their own station in life).