Beyond the human's mind to concieve- the limits of us as a people - Page 4

Total_Calamity · 01-27-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yunni

I don't think religious = paranormal.. it's more mythology in the most part - unless something is directly related to a religious issue - the Chinese had vampires, for example, in their mythology (vampire that fed on chi), as did the japanese (the hopping vampire :P).

I don't think that paranormal is religious, but I think it could be taken as it by some people. Twas just a friendly reminder of the forum rules.

Genkotsu Ikaru · 01-27-2005, 10:04 PM

Of course not, Illuminatus. I've already pointed out that there's a great deal of thought already given to that subject. They're called "philosophy" and "religion". Look 'em up.

BitVyper · 01-27-2005, 10:08 PM

If that's all you're saying, then you're ignoring a vast majority of what is being posted. I don't believe anyone has denied the possibility so far. I know I've just said that having antennae wouldn't make our heads explode. In any case, it's one thing to ask that people be open-minded. It's another entirely to ask them to accept something for which you have absolutely no evidence. Like I said though, no one is denying the possibility.

Edit: And if you're not willing to discuss something with people who have contrary opinions, then it's not much of a discussion.

Fuzzydoom · 01-27-2005, 10:14 PM

Apparently this thread has caused problems between myself and other poaters ther for i'll stop posting here. Don't want to provoke any1 or anything like that or somethin.

BitVyper · 01-27-2005, 10:17 PM

No one is mad at you. No one is calling you stupid. You, however, seem to be implying that people who don't accept your opinions are closedminded.

Fuzzydoom · 01-27-2005, 10:30 PM

I'm not saying anyone's mad at me, though they certainly have cause to be. All im saying is that by opening this thread I have somehow managed to draw myself into conflict wiht other posters. I've tried to apologize, didn't work, but I'll try again. I'm sorry for saying you're close-minded, I apologize for offending anyone in anyway and I'm sorry for getting angry when most of the first almost all the posts on the first 2 pages were agains t me. My fault I take full responsibility and apologize for my actions. And now ive gone and contradicted myself...

Anyways how did i call everyone close-minded? I apologise if i did, but would anyone mind pointing it out to me?

Genkotsu Ikaru · 01-27-2005, 10:34 PM

Fuzzy... What, exactly, are you apologizing for? This is a Discussion forum. We discussed things. Discussions don't usually consist of someone bringing something up, and everyone else telling him how w1ck3d kewl it is and slapping him on the back in a congratulatory manner. There are opposing viewpoints. In this case, there were lots of good arguments against you. Let it go. Don't take it so personally.

Fuzzydoom · 01-27-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Genkotsu Ikaru

Yes, you can see "clear". Not directly, of course, but, assuming something is transparent and not colored at all, there will be airborn sediment landing on it, light shimmering on it, etc., and you're able to percieve it. It's just not an obstacle. This is actually a pretty fair representation of the thread as a whole. Even if we can't directly percieve something, we'll observe it interacting with its surroundings and outside forces. In that case, it's percieved. If it doesn't do any of those things, then it just isn't there in our reality. If it doesn't interact with anything at all, then it's not "real" in any applicable definition of the word.

Sorry about the double post but i dont no how to quote into an edit. Things that are clear are hard to find unless u no what ur looking for. What if things we view as anomalies or somesuch is really an object we can't "see" affecting the space around it?

BitVyper · 01-27-2005, 10:38 PM

As I said, 'clear,' is just one property of matter. Said matter can still be percieved in numerous ways. We have devices that allow us to see it literally as well.

Edit: There's a button on the bottom right of your posts that says 'edit.' Just click that.

Genkotsu Ikaru · 01-27-2005, 10:40 PM

If it's an anomaly, then it's been percieved, and is being researched and investigated. The problem with your viewpoint on this one is, as soon as you introduce a possibility that is in any way real, it becomes an observable phenomenon, and thus is no longer within your viewpoint at all.

01-27-2005, 10:08 PM	#33
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	If that's all you're saying, then you're ignoring a vast majority of what is being posted. I don't believe anyone has denied the possibility so far. I know I've just said that having antennae wouldn't make our heads explode. In any case, it's one thing to ask that people be open-minded. It's another entirely to ask them to accept something for which you have absolutely no evidence. Like I said though, no one is denying the possibility. Edit: And if you're not willing to discuss something with people who have contrary opinions, then it's not much of a discussion. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here. Last edited by BitVyper; 01-27-2005 at 10:12 PM.

01-27-2005, 10:14 PM	#34
Fuzzydoom lvl 6 shmuck Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 619	Apparently this thread has caused problems between myself and other poaters ther for i'll stop posting here. Don't want to provoke any1 or anything like that or somethin. __________________ I think all the funny in my fingertips dried up a while ago. I leveled up!

01-27-2005, 10:17 PM	#35
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	No one is mad at you. No one is calling you stupid. You, however, seem to be implying that people who don't accept your opinions are closedminded. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

01-27-2005, 10:30 PM	#36
Fuzzydoom lvl 6 shmuck Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 619	I'm not saying anyone's mad at me, though they certainly have cause to be. All im saying is that by opening this thread I have somehow managed to draw myself into conflict wiht other posters. I've tried to apologize, didn't work, but I'll try again. I'm sorry for saying you're close-minded, I apologize for offending anyone in anyway and I'm sorry for getting angry when most of the first almost all the posts on the first 2 pages were agains t me. My fault I take full responsibility and apologize for my actions. And now ive gone and contradicted myself... Anyways how did i call everyone close-minded? I apologise if i did, but would anyone mind pointing it out to me? __________________ I think all the funny in my fingertips dried up a while ago. I leveled up! Last edited by Fuzzydoom; 01-27-2005 at 10:32 PM.

01-27-2005, 10:38 PM	#39
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	As I said, 'clear,' is just one property of matter. Said matter can still be percieved in numerous ways. We have devices that allow us to see it literally as well. Edit: There's a button on the bottom right of your posts that says 'edit.' Just click that. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

01-27-2005, 10:04 PM	#32
Genkotsu Ikaru Troopa Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 69	Of course not, Illuminatus. I've already pointed out that there's a great deal of thought already given to that subject. They're called "philosophy" and "religion". Look 'em up.

01-27-2005, 10:34 PM	#37
Genkotsu Ikaru Troopa Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 69	Fuzzy... What, exactly, are you apologizing for? This is a Discussion forum. We discussed things. Discussions don't usually consist of someone bringing something up, and everyone else telling him how w1ck3d kewl it is and slapping him on the back in a congratulatory manner. There are opposing viewpoints. In this case, there were lots of good arguments against you. Let it go. Don't take it so personally.

01-27-2005, 10:40 PM	#40
Genkotsu Ikaru Troopa Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 69	If it's an anomaly, then it's been percieved, and is being researched and investigated. The problem with your viewpoint on this one is, as soon as you introduce a possibility that is in any way real, it becomes an observable phenomenon, and thus is no longer within your viewpoint at all.