FFFFFFFYESSS POKEMANZ

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[Locke cole]

DEM SHADOWS.

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We'll finally know what the back of a Sharpedo looks like. :O

[Locke cole]

Wait... if the animation is the 'mon appearing in midair and then falling to the ground...

What does it look like for Diglett?

[Donomni]

Possible answer: An unimaginable horror-terror whose very utterances can kill Pokemon by the millions a second, and even that is but a whisper.

Real answer: Just a normal Diglett look, with no chance of telling what's under the dirt.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Or, they aim the beam at the ground and Digglet digs upwards to appear.

[Locke cole]

Like, Diglett would have a special animation where he pops out of the ground?

I'd love it if they did that.

[Token]

He does have a special Dig animation, so it's not that Farfetch'd.

[Melfice]

He does have a special Dig animation, so it's not that Farfetch'd.

The Ice puns were great.
That one's just Aboma... snow?

No? That was bad, wasn't it?

[Token]

The Ice puns were great.
That one's just Aboma... snow?

No? That was bad, wasn't it?

I'm sorry, I just can't Spheal with how bad that was.

[Locke cole]

Version Exclusives (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6262/bwversionexclusive.jpg).

Aaaaargh. I want too many things that are exclusive. I can just trade for the ninja snail. In fact, I have to no matter what, but I want the kamen rider and the ghost armor, dagnabbit!

[Melfice]

I'm thinking I'm getting Black.
That big Garuda-ish bird Pokémon is just too awesome to pass up. A lot better than that vulture to boot!

[Locke cole]

That, and people have been calling that Garuda (Wargle) the awesome American eagle, for some reason.

[Viridis]

I want White for that awesome Ground/Ghost robot.

[Locke cole]

Argh I know, man. But I also love the Dark/Steel Kamen Rider, and argh.

I guess I can get White, and just trade for the exclusives I want (the eagle and the Rider).

[Roland]

Okay so I was looking through the sprites of the new pokemon and I saw this really cool ice bear! It even had a beard! Made of ice! It was so cool and then I saw the unevolved form.

It has frozen snot coming out of its nose. It evolves and gets an "ice beard". Suddenly it's not so cool anymore. =/

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Pokemon fansites: next time you post screenshots of a rom make sure you don't brag about it you idiots

EDIT: All 649 HQ sprites, shiny female and all! http://stuff.veekun.com/bw-sprites.tar.gz

[Locke cole]

some new moves and Abilities and such. (http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/18/post-release-tidbits-1/)

Stuff I think is cool:

Sacred Sword: Fighting move, 90 power, ignores all stat changes.
Trickery: Dark move, 95 power, increases in base power if the enemy has a higher Attack stat.

Slip Through: new Ability, you ignore Reflect and Light Screen
Mischevious Heart: non-attack moves have priority. Only exists on two of the Legendary Genies, but come on: Priority Tailwind would be awesome in Doubles/Triples
Eccentric: New ability. You Transform into the enemy when you enter battle. New Ditto Ability?

[Revising Ocelot]

Ugh. I had to help me mam a bit while she's tried to play SoulSilver. I shouldn't have looked through this thread. I see talk of EV/IV/whateverV, breeding -starters- to get moves I've never heard of and the right balance of stats otherwise IT'S ALL WORTHLESS, recatching Pokemon over and over again to get the right "nature" (what?), and somehow having stuff like Golem and Alakazam before Whitney. Bah. (How do you trade with a DS, anyway?)

She's got a team of level23-25 Quilava, Onix, Weepinbell, and Gastly. And is stuck at a, er, level 31 Poliwrath in the 5th gym? Yeah. My head hurts looking at all this complex stuff I never knew about 10 years ago. :ohdear:


I caught a Magikarp when she wasn't looking and am Pokewalking it some levels though... evolves at 20 right? :(


EDIT: Before anyone raises an eyebrow, she's got motor neurone disease and I stay at home now to look after her. But getting her a DS was a bad idea! >.>

[Bifrost]

10 years ago, natures/EVs didn't exist, although EVs replaced a similar mechanism, iirc. They aren't important to a basic run, though; it's mostly a competative thing.

And trading by DS basically requires a second DS with a DS Pokemon game. No cables or anything required. And yeah, Magikarp evolves at level 20. That's why it can be such a gamebreaker early on.

[Melfice]

I caught a Magikarp when she wasn't looking and am Pokewalking it some levels though... evolves at 20 right

And yeah, Magikarp evolves at level 20. That's why it can be such a gamebreaker early on.

Getting it to 20 can be annoying, though. It levels up slooooooooow.

[Revising Ocelot]

And that's why I like the Walker. Darn fish can't fight for itself even with Tackle, takes more experience to level than 2nd stage evolutions, and gets half exp due to switching it out every fight. A few walks over the weekend though and I've got it up to 17 now. I suppose I'll have to do 19-20 'manually' though as it probably won't evolve in the Walker.

Think I'll do the same with an Abra later...

Oh, and there's nobody I know in a radius of 20 miles from me that would possibly own something like Pokemon, but a quick perusal through the manual says it can hijack my wireless router and actually trade and battle online. I'm shocked, in a good way!

[Locke cole]

So I heard that Gen V has the option to just fight random dudes online, without having to do the friendcode rigmarole beforehand, if you feel like just fighting, rather than against a specific person. Is that true?

Also: I wonder what the new Stadium equivalent will be like.

[bluestarultor]

And that's why I like the Walker. Darn fish can't fight for itself even with Tackle, takes more experience to level than 2nd stage evolutions, and gets half exp due to switching it out every fight. A few walks over the weekend though and I've got it up to 17 now. I suppose I'll have to do 19-20 'manually' though as it probably won't evolve in the Walker.

Think I'll do the same with an Abra later...

Oh, and there's nobody I know in a radius of 20 miles from me that would possibly own something like Pokemon, but a quick perusal through the manual says it can hijack my wireless router and actually trade and battle online. I'm shocked, in a good way!

Using the Walker only gives levels. It totally skips on evolutions and abilities.

[Token]

This is the first generation where I've been unsure which game to get. I was always a Red fan, Silver was awesome, Ruby was superior, and Diamond had Scyther. But now, I'm not sure. I mean yes, White has Jellybear, Golemech, and Wargle, but Black has Cottonmon, Savulture, and iirc, the Ridermon. I'm torn. I mean, Golmech can fly, but RIDERMON. It seems I'm gonna need to get my bro to start playing again...

[Drownball-Champ]

This is the first generation where I've been unsure which game to get. I was always a Red fan, Silver was awesome, Ruby was superior, and Diamond had Scyther. But now, I'm not sure. I mean yes, White has Jellybear, Golemech, and Wargle, but Black has Cottonmon, Savulture, and iirc, the Ridermon. I'm torn. I mean, Golmech can fly, but RIDERMON. It seems I'm gonna need to get my bro to start playing again...

The mech is exclusive to White? Guess I'll be getting White. Sucks that serebii had to pull it's images.

[Token]

The mech is exclusive to White? Guess I'll be getting White. Sucks that serebii had to pull it's images.

PLDH still have them. Much better quality as well.

Here, have some sprites. (http://pldh.net/guides/blackwhite/official_isshu_listing)

[Drownball-Champ]

PLDH still have them. Much better quality as well.

Here, have some sprites. (http://pldh.net/guides/blackwhite/official_isshu_listing)

Thanks, you're right those are much better. And I thought you were referring to #622 and #623 when you said golemech. I can't find anything saying those 2 are exclusive to White, so I guess you weren't.

[Tev]

Well after looking at that sprite list I guess I'm good to buy this game as there are enough pokemon that I like the looks of to be worth suffering through the rest.

My lineup's gunna have so many holes in it though....

Grass -> Tsutarja Line (Starter)
Ground/Dark -> Meguroco Line
Water -> Puratoga Line
Electric/Flying -> Emonga....maybe?
Electric -> Shibishirasu Line
Figthing -> Kojofuu/Kojondo (Are these opposing or an evolution?)
Fire -> Kuitaran

So yeah, I've found enough pokemon to somewhat flesh out a team of monsters that I won't be embarassed to have pop out of my pokeballs. I'm clearly getting too old for this game. I miss Gen 1 designs sooooooo much.

[Drownball-Champ]

Figthing -> Kojofuu/Kojondo (Are these opposing or an evolution?)

Looking at base stats, I'd guess evolution. The second ones stats are higher, they would be horrible opponents.

Main game can most likely be done with any team like the others so this will probably be mine:

Emboar <fire/fighting> (starter)
Deathkan <ghost> (he just looks awesome)
Shubarugo <steel/bug> (only one weakness and plenty of resistances)
Gorog <ghost/ground>
Kirikizan <steel/dark>
Abagohra <water/rock> (he shall be named Kiwi after the turtle in Shining Force 2)

[Tev]

Abagohra <water/rock>I actually wanted to ask about this water/rock combo. I used Kabutops for funsies back in Gen 1 and he was Water/Rock and he seemed to get his face smashed by almost everything. Is this combo really that bad or was I just using him against the wrong stuff?

[IHateMakingNames]

Edit - I looked at the wrong pokemon.

[Tev]

They are opposing. For one, the sprites are the same size (Things tend to evolve to bigger) and they have a big Hitmochan/Hitmolee vibe. Base stats wise, the first is a tank and the second is a physical sweep. There is little sense in those being evolving stats, since he'd lose 45 base HP, which is huge.
Well the Nageki/Dageki group looked like the opposing sides combo so I wasn't sure. I guess this game has two opposing fighter combos in it then?

[IHateMakingNames]

Well the Nageki/Dageki group looked like the opposing sides combo so I wasn't sure. I guess this game has two opposing fighter combos in it then?
Well, I was wrong.

Nageki/Dageki was what I initially looked at. I didn't really read the pokemon names, and just assumed it was them based on the question.

Kojondo definitely evolves from Kojofuu.

[Drownball-Champ]

I actually wanted to ask about this water/rock combo. I used Kabutops for funsies back in Gen 1 and he was Water/Rock and he seemed to get his face smashed by almost everything. Is this combo really that bad or was I just using him against the wrong stuff?

Not sure, I just threw him in for the fun of it and he seemed to look the best of all the water pokemon.

[Tev]

Well, I was wrong.

Kojondo definitely evolves from Kojofuu.
Okay good, because I was really getting more of a Mankey/Primeape vibe from that group.

[Tev]

Not sure, I just threw him in for the fun of it and he seemed to look the best of all the water pokemon.Well that's why I picked the turtle thingy too. I'm just a little worried about its dual type.

[Drownball-Champ]

Well that's why I picked the turtle thingy too. I'm just a little worried about its dual type.

(2x) Weak to: Electric, Fighting, Ground
(4x) Weak to: Grass
(1/2): Normal, Ice, Flying, Poison
(1/4): Fire

Doesn't seem horrible, maybe not the best though.

[Tev]

(2x) Weak to: Electric, Fighting, Ground
(4x) Weak to: Grass
(1/2): Normal, Ice, Flying, Poison
(1/4): Fire

Doesn't seem horrible, maybe not the best though.

Of the new pokemon:
Grass type -> 20
Fire type -> 16
Electric type -> 11
Fighting -> 16
Ground type -> 12

It's not safe to be a rock turtle.....

Also I wish the designs on the new fire, grass,and water monkeys were cooler looking. I wanted to add them to my monkey team with Primape and Infernape. But the new fire monkey looks almost like a Chimchar off-shoot and I'm not even sure why it's there.

[Drownball-Champ]

I think they started running out of ideas for stuff. There's the 3 monkeys, and the 4 legendary fighting types, and then there are the 3 genie things with almost the exact same sprite. All of which seem to lack any creativity.

[Tev]

Well a lot of the pokemon in this gen that have 3-4 of the same thing but are diferent elements and only look slightly different I'm assuming are because of that whole "seasonal pokemon" jazz they are doing this go 'round where you can only catch certain pokemon three months out of the year.

[Drownball-Champ]

That makes sense for the 4 fighting type legendaries, but not for the monkeys or genies. If they wanted to do that for the genies they still could've at least been creative with them instead of sticking them all with the same base sprite. And the monkeys as well, they look almost exactly the same.

[Tev]

Yeah, I got nothing other than a deep yearning for Gamefreak to stop cranking out new pokemon generations with all these lame pokemon and instead work on a giant omnibus game that lets to pick your starting town among the various regions and your starting pokemon then lets you forge your own destiny "choose your own adventure" style across the world with various endings depending on if you collect badges, ribbons, or just want to collect all the damn pokemon.

It can be on the next consol or hand-held generation. I'm cool with waiting.

[Drownball-Champ]

Yeah that would be awesome. Maybe we'll get that when they finally decided to let Pokemon die.

[Tev]

Oh also, there seems to be enough Normal-only pokemon to run a funsies team of them.

Minezumi Line (2 stages)
Yorterrie Line (3 stages)
Tabunne
Chillarmy Line (2 stages)
Buffalon

And if you really have to, you can add in one of the two birds for a dual Nomal/Flying type.

Washibon Line (2 stages)
Mamepato Line (3 stages)

EDIT: Just make sure your Chillarmy is in the TOP PERCENTAGE of Chillarmy.
EDIT 2: I bet the Joey of this game is a girl with a fluffy Chillarmy.

[bluestarultor]

I can't help but fear that the whole "seasonal" thing is a misguided attempt to extend the game's life over a full year with the internal clock.

Talk about artificially lengthening gameplay.

[Yumil]

Also I wish the designs on the new fire, grass,and water monkeys were cooler looking. I wanted to add them to my monkey team with Primape and Infernape. But the new fire monkey looks almost like a Chimchar off-shoot and I'm not even sure why it's there.

They are used as a way to introduce the typing system to new players. The first gym leader has the type your starter is weak against and you get the one your starter is strong against just before the gym. It really was an interesting way to introduce it and not say, well now ya gotta grind to beat Brock because you chose Charmander.

I have a feeling that there are a number of references in their evolutions, but I can't put my finger on what. Some say they reference the three wise monkeys, but meh.

[Tev]

It really was an interesting way to introduce it and not say, well now ya gotta grind to beat Brock because you chose Charmander.Or it's just like every other time you picked Charmander as a starter and you picked up a Mankey or a Pikachu to help you trounce the first two gyms and then used your starter to lay waste to the next few because it was a damn fire-breathing monster.

Picking the starter that was weak against the first two gyms is just the way to learn to use a team of pokemon better rather than march your starter over everything until three gyms down the road (or worse in the case of Bulbasaur in Gen 1) when you have to go find some decent pokemon to help you learn the lesson you should have been learning back before gym number one.

[Loyal]

I can't help but fear that the whole "seasonal" thing is a misguided attempt to extend the game's life over a full year with the internal clock.

Talk about artificially lengthening gameplay.Not likely. The internal clock can be changed.

It certainly didn't stop Animal Crossing players, who had to deal with a town full of weeds every time they timeshifted for whatever purpose.

[Viridis]

I can't help but fear that the whole "seasonal" thing is a misguided attempt to extend the game's life over a full year with the internal clock.

Talk about artificially lengthening gameplay.More like four months. That's how long the in-game year takes to repeat. A season a month.

[Token]

Thanks, you're right those are much better. And I thought you were referring to #622 and #623 when you said golemech. I can't find anything saying those 2 are exclusive to White, so I guess you weren't.

I was. :raise: Last I heard, they were exclusive to White, and were the counterparts of Black's 624 and 625. That could be wrong though.

[Yumil]

Or it's just like every other time you picked Charmander as a starter and you picked up a Mankey or a Pikachu to help you trounce the first two gyms and then used your starter to lay waste to the next few because it was a damn fire-breathing monster.

Picking the starter that was weak against the first two gyms is just the way to learn to use a team of pokemon better rather than march your starter over everything until three gyms down the road (or worse in the case of Bulbasaur in Gen 1) when you have to go find some decent pokemon to help you learn the lesson you should have been learning back before gym number one.

Cept, we're talking about someone who is just starting the game. They don't know they are picking the harder route(at the start) by picking charmander, they just thought he looked cool. Mankey only helped if you had red, if you were blue, you pretty much had to grind a bit.

[Tev]

Cept, we're talking about someone who is just starting the game. They don't know they are picking the harder route(at the start) by picking charmander, they just thought he looked cool. Mankey only helped if you had red, if you were blue, you pretty much had to grind a bit.Yeah, bu that was back in Gen 1. Now Charmander gets Metal Claw early and rapes Brocks Gym in no time. Though I still like to think that the kids who picked the fire starter in Gen 1 because it looked the coolest grew up to be better at the game than the kids who went the easy modes.

Anyway, arguing over Charmander at this point is silly because not only is he not the fire starter in this game, unless someone has leaked the new Gym line-up from the hacked Rom then there's no telling that choosing the fire pig as your starter sets the game on hard mode like choosing Charmander did in Gen 1.

[Token]

It was leaked a couple of days before the rom, and like always,
It's in the instruction manual. Also, I'm laughing my ass off at the concept of Bulbasaur being "easy mode." Especially in Gen 1, where Psychics ruled everything. Same with Squirtle, actually. Sure he could beat Brock, but so could a sufficiently leveled Rattata. Squritle
Had trouble with Misty, Surge, and Erika. Meanwhile, Charmander only had trouble with Brock, and Misty if you were stupid enough to use it against her.

Also: I need to stop typing on my iPod.

[Revising Ocelot]

Wait... so I just heard about Black/White last week, and it's already out.

Sneaky...

[Melfice]

Wait... so I just heard about Black/White last week, and it's already out.

Sneaky...

Japanese version only, of course.
Q-something 2011 for the rest of the world.

[Revising Ocelot]

Ah, was panicking for a second there. I think SoulSilver came out in February in the UK.

Gonna test the online options on SS later, maybe trade the Kadabra I've sneakily levelled for another Kadabra, if that's possible. Haven't got the manual or game to check it until later tonight though, does it require "friend codes" or other such nonsense?

[Yumil]

So, my copy came in yesterday and I finally got to play a little last night. It's far improved from 4th gen. I'm having a blast.

So far I've beat the first gym and my party includes(all nicknames in katakana save one, hence why there may be more than 5 roman characters):
Pokabu named Ganon @ level 10
Minezumi named Panic @ level 10(this guy is my cut slave and is used to run away from wild pokes)
Yooterii named Pochi @ level 10
Choroneko named Mephisto @ level 10
Yanappu named Aniki @ level 11
Tabunne named Popo @ level 8

Yeah, I like to evenly level my guys. I'll probably be replacing them as I get to cooler pokes, but for now that's what I got. I'm trying to see if I can get ahold of an event Celebi so I can get Zorua when I reach Huin.

My roommates way ahead of me(his pokes are 25 and he's picked up Victini...) but from what I see, the animation is amazing. That one fighting pokemon that has the tree...it tosses it around in battle(I'm sure it's evolutions will do something similar with their "props"). The otter, uses the shells on it's legs during some of it's attacks. They really put a lot of care into the game.

[bluestarultor]

Cept, we're talking about someone who is just starting the game. They don't know they are picking the harder route(at the start) by picking charmander, they just thought he looked cool. Mankey only helped if you had red, if you were blue, you pretty much had to grind a bit.

If you had Blue, all you needed was to find a Caterpie and get it to level 10, at which point you have a Butterfree with Confusion. Or I may be thinking of Yellow, but Pikachu is even MORE useless in that battle. Butterfree can easily wipe out Geodude on its own despite the Flying-type disadvantage and take a chunk out of Onix before going down, at which point you just throw the rest of your assorted mons at it despite their various weaknesses.

So, my copy came in yesterday and I finally got to play a little last night. It's far improved from 4th gen. I'm having a blast.

So far I've beat the first gym and my party includes(all nicknames in katakana save one, hence why there may be more than 5 roman characters):
Pokabu named Ganon @ level 10
Minezumi named Panic @ level 10(this guy is my cut slave and is used to run away from wild pokes)
Yooterii named Pochi @ level 10
Choroneko named Mephisto @ level 10
Yanappu named Aniki @ level 11
Tabunne named Popo @ level 8

Yeah, I like to evenly level my guys. I'll probably be replacing them as I get to cooler pokes, but for now that's what I got. I'm trying to see if I can get ahold of an event Celebi so I can get Zorua when I reach Huin.

My roommates way ahead of me(his pokes are 25 and he's picked up Victini...) but from what I see, the animation is amazing. That one fighting pokemon that has the tree...it tosses it around in battle(I'm sure it's evolutions will do something similar with their "props"). The otter, uses the shells on it's legs during some of it's attacks. They really put a lot of care into the game.

This makes me want it, despite having given up on SoulSilver after losing my sense of direction and realizing I'd just wasted all of my Oran berries on that stupid sick Miltank without seeing any benefit from it. I didn't expect to be playing enough to use the Berry Pots without them dying on me and they don't grow on trees anymore. :(

[Loyal]

RBY-era Geodude and Onix couldn't do anything more threatening than Tackle at levels 12-14. Their 'special move' was the spectacularly useless Bide, during which your Butterfree could just Harden and make their tackles even less threatening.

There is absolutely no reason why either of Brock's pokemon should pose a threat to a Butterfree, especially if you got it to lv 13 (Poisonpowder) or 14 (Stun Spore).

[edit]Also, the Nidoran twins could learn Double Kick at level 12 in Yellow.

[bluestarultor]

Can somebody tell me if it's true that berries you plant don't actually die on you if you don't water them? Because that was what led me to not bother with planting any, and if I'd known, I wouldn't have given all three of my Oran Berries to the Miltank in hopes that it would be enough. I even considered planting the last one, but I was already getting inconsistent with playing by that point and decided not to "waste" it.

Basically, I want to know how hard I should be kicking myself. I mean I'm already kicking myself for wasting all three of them, but I want to know how much extra I should do.

[Yumil]

IIRC I stopped berry farming a long time ago. If you watered them they grew faster than if you didn't.

[Revising Ocelot]

Hm. Seems this GTS thing is worthless (all the trades want level 100 Arceus... I don't even know what that is, so I'm guessing it must be the best legendary ever or something).

I did discover something called a PAL Pad lurking in the bag though. Seems to allow direct contact with people through dreaded friend codes...

Anyways, I've got a level 25 Haunter lurking around, would like to trade it back and forth to get a Gengar, so it can Hypnosis and Mean Look combo Entei and Raikou later. I remember catching them on Silver 10 years ago, but I guess Suicune gets a fixed position now. So yeah, SoulSilver code is 4383 7637 1724. Anyone kind enough to oblige?

Anything else would be welcome too! Got a 44 Kadabra I'd also like to trade back and forth (me mam powerlevelled it a ton), and got a bunch of random stuff in the PC Box.
EDIT: Also bred a new Cyndaquil which I'd like to swap for something. Zero regards for whateverVs, though, and it already knows QuickAttack at lv1. *shrug*

[Locke cole]

(all the trades want level 100 Arceus... I don't even know what that is, so I'm guessing it must be the best legendary ever or something).

Pokégod, basically. I'm not even exaggerating. I'm being literal.

[Tev]

Pokégod, basically. I'm not even exaggerating. I'm being literal.As a child of Generation 1, I stand firm in my Mewist doctrine. Your false gods are naught but shiny idols.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l88zx35d3N1qbfwx2o1_500.png

[Julford Hajime]

Hm. Seems this GTS thing is worthless (all the trades want level 100 Arceus... I don't even know what that is, so I'm guessing it must be the best legendary ever or something).

I did discover something called a PAL Pad lurking in the bag though. Seems to allow direct contact with people through dreaded friend codes...

Anyways, I've got a level 25 Haunter lurking around, would like to trade it back and forth to get a Gengar, so it can Hypnosis and Mean Look combo Entei and Raikou later. I remember catching them on Silver 10 years ago, but I guess Suicune gets a fixed position now. So yeah, SoulSilver code is 4383 7637 1724. Anyone kind enough to oblige?

Anything else would be welcome too! Got a 44 Kadabra I'd also like to trade back and forth (me mam powerlevelled it a ton), and got a bunch of random stuff in the PC Box.
EDIT: Also bred a new Cyndaquil which I'd like to swap for something. Zero regards for whateverVs, though, and it already knows QuickAttack at lv1. *shrug*

I don't have my DS or Pokemon stuff with me on campus, but I'll be going home tomorrow around this time and if you can wait till about 3-4PM EST (This post is about 11:30AM EST, for reference >.>) I can go ahead and trade you then.

And I'll toss in whatever I have handy for the Cyndaquil; Do you mind gen 3/4* pokes, or are you trying to keep it strictly gen 2 stuff?

*Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald are Gen 3, Diamond/Pearl/Platinum are gen 4

[Revising Ocelot]

Gen3/4 are fine, considering I completely skipped them due to "Pokemon is too kiddyz0r" in my teenage years. I'm assuming they'll pop up in SoulSilver later anyway in Kanto. I managed to beat Red back then with one Pokemon, a Feraligatr. I remember levelling it too much while looking for other decent Pokemon to catch, and then ended up using it solo. :raise:

[Viridis]

Pokemon faiths.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/13/Spr_4d_382.png
Kyogre shall smite you all with no-miss Thunder. It's a simple but profound faith.

[bluestarultor]

BTW, if anyone wants to trade me an Oran Berry to start restocking the things (I don't know if I have any other means to get them in HG than via shards, and I don't know if I can get more shards), I'll see what Pokemon I can dig up. It's going to be a pretty low level, though.

I do have a couple Smoochums, one of which I'd be willing to part with, as well as a couple extra Onixes and Magnemites, a Polywag, and a Krabby. I'm also equipped to catch Tentacool, Tentacruel, Goldeen, Psyduck, and various others.

Just PM me if you're interested so I have a reminder for when I get home on the weekend.

[Token]

As a child of Generation 1, I stand firm in my Mewist doctrine. Your false gods are naught but shiny idols.

As a true child of Generation 1, I stand firm in my atheistic beliefs. Your so called "gods" are merely glitches, mirages, and overhyped dragons. Science reigns supreme.

[Tev]

You just want the free Porygon. What's worse is that you'd put your faith in a defective clone to get it.

[Token]

The free porygon is simply a bonus. And I'm not "putting my faith" in a "defective clone"- a creature who's more powerful than the myth it was based on, I might add. Mewtwo is simply a representation of the power of science.

[Melfice]

Technically, Mew wouldn't be a god.
Since all Pokémon stem from the genes of Mew, this would be evolution at work.
Mew spread over the world, and adapted to life in new locations.

So, Mewists are evolutionists.
Mewtwoists can happily coexist with the Mewists, since humanity (as a separate evolution tree (I hope.)) coexists with Pokémon, and even went so far as to create their own.

So, technically, and especially in the case of Giovanni who created Mewtwo, you can be both Mewist and Mewtwoist.

[Tev]

Either way, Arceus can still GTFO.

[Melfice]

Either way, Arceus can still GTFO.

That really went without saying.

[Geminex]

The worst thing about the pokemon universe is Bellsprout's Witness.
'Excuse me young trainer, have you ever considered making Bellsprout, tower of the heavers, part of your life?'

[Tev]

The worst thing about the pokemon universe is Bellsprout's Witness.
'Excuse me young trainer, have you ever considered making Bellsprout, tower of the heavers, part of your life?'

I'm pretty sure this baddass Bellsprout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-Tb6Wdx94) was trained at that temple too.

[Geminex]

During my first game, I actually had my charizard die to a bellsprout. Paralysis plus confusion plus Wrap was lethal.

Same bellsprout?

[Revising Ocelot]

BTW, if anyone wants to trade me an Oran Berry to start restocking the things (I don't know if I have any other means to get them in HG than via shards, and I don't know if I can get more shards),

If you've got Rock Smash, smash some of the rocks up at the Ruins of Alph. You'll get a Blue Shard soon enough. If not, I've got some Oran Berries growing right now after noticing I (or rather, my mother) had fed them all to that damned cow, and got another with a spare Blue Shard, so I'll catch some trash Pokemon and stick the berry on it.

Speaking of Sprout Tower, she got lost in there. I had to point out that when she takes the ladder down to the ground floor again, she has to go around and take another up to the first floor which leads to one going to the second floor. And she didn't learn Swift on the Typhlosion (kept Quick Attack and Strength) or Recovery on the Kadabra. :wtf:

[Loyal]

During my first game, I actually had my charizard die to a bellsprout. Paralysis plus confusion plus Wrap was lethal.

Same bellsprout?Wrap (and its cousins) was ridiculous in first-gen. It was next to unbeatable if the one doing the wrapping had the speed advantage.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I'm pretty sure this baddass Bellsprout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-Tb6Wdx94) was trained at that temple too.

Makes me think back to Savage Thinking's Sunkern only run. That sprout was probably powerleveled out the wazoo.

[Flarecobra]

I also note that in most games that use dice... 1 is usually the worst thing to roll.

[bluestarultor]

If you've got Rock Smash, smash some of the rocks up at the Ruins of Alph. You'll get a Blue Shard soon enough. If not, I've got some Oran Berries growing right now after noticing I (or rather, my mother) had fed them all to that damned cow, and got another with a spare Blue Shard, so I'll catch some trash Pokemon and stick the berry on it.

Speaking of Sprout Tower, she got lost in there. I had to point out that when she takes the ladder down to the ground floor again, she has to go around and take another up to the first floor which leads to one going to the second floor. And she didn't learn Swift on the Typhlosion (kept Quick Attack and Strength) or Recovery on the Kadabra. :wtf:

Oh, there IS a way to get more shards? Good. I thought I was just screwed. :sweatdrop

I do appreciate all the offers and I'll still help people with their evo-trades and stuff.

[Revising Ocelot]

I don't have my DS or Pokemon stuff with me on campus, but I'll be going home tomorrow around this time and if you can wait till about 3-4PM EST (This post is about 11:30AM EST, for reference >.>) I can go ahead and trade you then.

Just yell when you're on, I'm hanging around. Think I've got the right time zone, EST is -5GMT... >.>


EDIT: Think he forgot. Meh, always happens.

[Julford Hajime]

I didn't forget, but mi familia is incredibly slow. We were supposed to wrap something up at 12:30 at the latest, and I'm only just NOW getting home.

Anyway, will edit DS Friend code into post in, like, ten seconds. Just need to boot it up >.>

EDIT: Friend Code for SoulSilver:

4082 8376 4380

Name's Julford, but you can call me whatever, the system only looks that we matched friend codes.

[Revising Ocelot]

Well, just got distracted by Starcraft 2, doing that right now. Sorry.

(lost all my games anyway, like usual...)

[Revising Ocelot]

Getting an error 86420 whenever I try to trade. Hm.

[Julford Hajime]

Getting an error 86420 whenever I try to trade. Hm.

Hm, I got the same errors. I'm gonna erase you from the Pal Pad and re-add you, see if that works.

Strange, this has never happened before.

[Revising Ocelot]

I already did the same. I'll try disabling my router's firewall, I already had to change encryption from WPA to WEP to get the WiFi to work in the first place, heh.

EDIT: I hate Nintendo.

[Julford Hajime]

Alright, well, let me get out my Platinum and, failing that, my Diamond.

Yeah, I was totally a Gen 4 whore >.>

EDIT: Platinum FC: 0517 8958 3001

[Revising Ocelot]

Best take this to PMs for now, we'll clog up the thread with endless 86420s otherwise.

EDIT: Solution was... a random person from GameFAQs instead. Someone might want to try trading with Julford as well and see if they get 86420s.:D

[Ecks]

I've traded with Jules before, didn't get errors then.

So I've been IV breeding like a mad scientist (I was trying for 31s in Speed, Attack, and Defense for a Scyther (a replacement for my second Scizor, as the first was caught in-game, and the second had HORRIBLE IVs) and somehow only managed 31s in Attack, Defense and Special Attack.

I also happen to have a Charizard with a 31 in Attack, a Dragonite with a 31 in Speed, a Gyarados with a 31 in Attack and Speed (which I put on it through an IV breeding chain via the Charizard and Dragonite), and I THINK a Ninjask with a 31 in Special Attack (which will be useful for when I put together a Yanmega).

Thank Arceus for Power Items and their IV passing properties in HG/SS.

[Julford Hajime]

Yeah, I was trading with random GameFAQS users last night and didn't get any errors then. It's seriously confusing why it was just Revolving Ocelot and I that couldn't trade with each other >.>

Anywho, been playing Soul Silver again lately (Re: Since last night), mostly to get some of my pokes up to level 100. I can't access wifi on campus, but there's a lot of people who play so I need to manually raise them. Thank goodness for Lucky Eggs and hatching the eggs on Platinum so that they get extra exp on the SS E4; Soloing a single member is usually worth a good level and a half for my level 80-somethings, so they'll be maxed out soon. The biggest problem is bulky pokes with little to no offensive strength, like Blissey and Skarmory. Rare Candy farming takes even longer, so I'm stuck grinding >.>

[Drownball-Champ]

There's no need to raise them to level 100 yourself. They are automatically leveled to 100 whenever you do a level 100 battle in multiplayer.

[Julford Hajime]

I thought that was only if you were on Wifi, and local matches didn't have that option...

*Currently has two DS's on hand* Guess I should go check, because three trips through the improved SS E4 has only gotten Blissey from level 39 to 51 >.>

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaand if it exists I can't find it. I can find options to allow three pokemon each up to level 100, but I can't find the "Make everyone level 100 in a 6v6 Singles match" >.>

[Funka Genocide]

I feel that this movie (especially the incredible sound track) really showcases the overwhelming majesty of Bellsprout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTt2wUpxG8&feature=related

[Yumil]

I feel that this movie (especially the incredible sound track) really showcases the overwhelming majesty of Bellsprout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTt2wUpxG8&feature=related

MY EYES!!!!
MY EARS!!!!
I hate you

[Funka Genocide]

MY EYES!!!!
MY EARS!!!!
I hate you

*Picture of dancing bellsprout*

"Woah! Yay!"

suddenly, SNOWBALL FIGHT!

[Revising Ocelot]

So I managed to obtain 30 Heavy Balls and 20 Dusk Balls for my mother, and implied she should use them to catch Lugia... and instead she doesn't even make an attempt to catch it, just knocks it out instead and saves, without telling me. Then asks if she should have caught it.

Sigh.

[Drownball-Champ]

I believe it will reappear after she beats the Elite 4. I'm almost positive all legendaries work this way in HG/SS.

[Kim]

I'll just leave this here...

http://i54.tinypic.com/33584fp.jpg

[Token]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2prwigh.jpg

[Bob The Mercenary]

Just letting everyone know, if you connect your DS to Nintendo WiFi at midnight tonight thru October 30th you can recieve Mew through the "recieve gift" option in the main menu.

[Grand Master Kickface]

Just letting everyone know, if you connect your DS to Nintendo WiFi at midnight tonight thru October 30th you can recieve Mew through the "recieve gift" option in the main menu.

Holy crap I would have totally missed this. Thanks bunches.

[Thadius]

I have mine already.

I'm also leveling it up majorly. Thanks, traded 'mon xp booster mechanic!

Oh but that's not the best part.

Somehow I've contracted the Pokerus.

Wait wait wait, you're not done hating me yet.

I also have a damn shiny Arbok.

NOW you may commence hating me to death.

[Ecks]

I have mine already.

I'm also leveling it up majorly. Thanks, traded 'mon xp booster mechanic!

Oh but that's not the best part.

Somehow I've contracted the Pokerus.

Wait wait wait, you're not done hating me yet.

I also have a damn shiny Arbok.

NOW you may commence hating me to death.

But I've had Pokerus forever. And a shiny Tangela. And a ton of other lovely goodies that I won't talk about because I CAN FEEL YOUR ANGER.

[Thadius]

What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of my Lucky Egg, Stick, and Thick club I blatantly stole!

[Roland]

Guys, I'm happy for you, and I'm gonna let you finish, but...

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimoris/sugimoris041.png

[Thadius]

http://www.gtsplus.net/files/images/sprites/male-shiny/024.gif

Arguably cooler.

[Bifrost]

Shiny Gastly>Shiny Arbok. Tru fax.

Also, I got a level 100 shiny Mew for a level 1 non-shiny Feebas over the GTS. YOUR RAGE IS EXSQUISITE.

[Bob The Mercenary]

If you visit a Gamestop this month into next, you can recieve one of the three legendary's from SS/HG shiny editions. They can be traded into Black/White to unlock a limited edition pokemon. The first one already past, but you can only download one per cartridge anyway. I was lucky enough to have a hookup inside one of the stores near me who gave me all three by transfer-trading them to and from used copies. Including the one that comes out next month. :dance:

[akaSM]

I want some shiny pokemans D:. Well, At least I'm happy I bought my game in time to get a Mew :3

[Locke cole]

http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1294956178229.jpg

Namez.

Copy/paste the link if it doesn't work. Very likely to be real, these ones.

[Token]

"Woobat." Words can't even... Wow. Fucking glorious.

EDIT: Serperior? PIGNITE? Samurott? Watchog? Each one of those is a name /vp/ made up, and I love it. Pretty much the only names I dislike are Pawniard and Bisharp, and that's only because they dropped the Kamen Rider theme for chess. Still, absolutely fantastic.

Double Edit all the way across the sky: Since Locke's link 404'd:http://i54.tinypic.com/qycsaw.jpg

[Whomper]

I own you all at pokemon.

Just thought you should know. <.<

[Thadius]

Oh really? I was unaware. Perhaps we should have a small bout to determine this?

[Drownball-Champ]

There are some really stupid names on that list. I can't read all of them though, so some may be gems, though I would've preferred Piglit, Pignite, Pignition as the fire starter names.

563 - Cologrigus (may be reading that one wrong, words are blurry)
622- Golett
623 - Golunk
602 - Klinklang (don't mind Klink and Klang, but Klinklang is just stupid)
527 - Woobat (really? woobat. couldn't make it any closer to zubat? zoobat.)
538 - Throh
539 - Sawk

There may be more I dislike, but I can't read them.

A few I like:

Tepig, Pignite, Emboar.
526 - Gigalith


Really, really hope that is a fake list.

[Token]

There are some really stupid names on that list. I can't read all of them though, so some may be gems, though I would've preferred Piglit, Pignite, Pignition as the fire starter names.

563 - Cologrigus (may be reading that one wrong, words are blurry)
622- Golett
623 - Golunk
602 - Klinklang (don't mind Klink and Klang, but Klinklang is just stupid)
527 - Woobat (really? woobat. couldn't make it any closer to zubat? zoobat.)
538 - Throh
539 - Sawk

There may be more I dislike, but I can't read them.

A few I like:

Tepig, Pignite, Emboar.
526 - Gigalith


Really, really hope that is a fake list.

IMO, Klinklang works better than LadyGaGaGaGaGagioGear or whatever the hell the Japanese name was. As for Throh and Sawk, they fit the martial styles the two are based on. Regardless, every complaint is negated by the sheer awesomeness of Foongus and Amoongus

[Token]

They're out, they're still fantastic, you should purchase it. That's really all that needs to be said on the matter.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Yup, just got my first badge. :D Loving the animation, the pokemon, the characters...heck even the storyline is better. The bad guys actually have a believable motive.

Also, Lillipup will bite your face off.

[Great Cartoonist]

I dunno, I think I liked it better when the bad guys were just some two-bit hacks who weren't afraid of proudly declaring themselves the bad guys and never back down from even the tiniest, most ridiculous act of villainy.
At least they didn't make you feel bad when you beat them up and took their money.

[Bifrost]

But everyone beats each other up for spare change in Pokeworld. It's probably a rule somewhere that the only income trainers are allowed comes from selling pretty shiny things and beating the crap out of each other. And selling pretty shiny things means you have to give the store a huge discount (Because seriously? A nugget of pure gold only sells for 5000 yen? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS)

ANYWAY I always thought that Team Rocket had a fairly realistic motive for their crimes. The new baddies aren't the only realistic ones.

[Token]

I dunno, I think I liked it better when the bad guys were just some two-bit hacks who weren't afraid of proudly declaring themselves the bad guys and never back down from even the tiniest, most ridiculous act of villainy.
At least they didn't make you feel bad when you beat them up and took their money.

Really? As early as your first battle with them, it's clear they don't believe what they're saying.

[Shin Amakiir]

The shit I put up with... You guys and another board have convinced me to go get one of these games. Think I'm gonna get white due to http://i52.tinypic.com/zybwgx.png I'm more about the catching than the trainer battles.

[Thadius]

Apparently even when I want to get a full night's rest, when there's a new gen of pokemon to play, that gets thrown right out the fucking window.

On the upside, I know I'll beat it before any of you lot.

[mudah.swf]

Got Black when the UK version came out, done two gym leaders so far, and am now convinced that triple battles should be the norm for the series, fuck having single battles all the time. I also found Victini really goddamn hard to catch, jesus.

Bonus video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&sns=em

[Token]

On the upside, I know I'll beat it before any of you lot.

http://i53.tinypic.com/9auuc5.png

Yeah. No.

[akaSM]

I still have Soul Silver, and I haven't beaten a single Kanto Gym yet so, I think I'll wait before getting a new pokégame :sweatdrop. Also, did any of you get any of the shiny beast trio? They unlock something in Black and White.

[Bob The Mercenary]

I still have Soul Silver, and I haven't beaten a single Kanto Gym yet so, I think I'll wait before getting a new pokégame :sweatdrop. Also, did any of you get any of the shiny beast trio? They unlock something in Black and White.

I have all three if you'd like one. :D

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Apparently even when I want to get a full night's rest, when there's a new gen of pokemon to play, that gets thrown right out the fucking window.

On the upside, I know I'll beat it before any of you lot.

Token will beat you to it. Or maybe me If I don't forget to pick up my damn preordered Black Version from gamestop. >_<

[Token]

Champion: Beaten.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

The shit I put up with... You guys and another board have convinced me to go get one of these games. Think I'm gonna get white due to http://i52.tinypic.com/zybwgx.png I'm more about the catching than the trainer battles.

Well now I'm glad I got Black Version (Black City looks awesome X3 ).

Champion: Beaten.

Hey look at that I was right. XD

[Thadius]

I'dve been done sooner if I didn't hunt down and catch all those goddamn legendary ball-eating monsters.

Anyways part one done. I won't consider Token to have beaten me until he beats Cynthia too.

[Arcanum]

So am I like the only one taking their time with this? 'Cause I'm on Route 4. Like literally just walked onto it.

[Melfice]

So am I like the only one taking their time with this? 'Cause I'm on Route 4. Like literally just walked onto it.

Naw. I just entered Driftveil City today.
Had it since the 4th of March, or something.

I'm takin' it easy.

[Bob The Mercenary]

You have to savor the manz.

[Token]

I'm taking it much more slowly on my White playthrough. My Woobat just evolved, and I actually got around to catching a Scraggy this time. He is Yeezy, and he is my baby. <3

[Arcanum]

Wait did you... did you buy both?

Also, Woobat is hideous.

[phil_]

Wait did you... did you buy both?Gotta.

Catch'em.

All.

[Token]

Wait did you... did you buy both?

Also, Woobat is hideous.

Less that I bought them both, more that I bought White and my 'rents haven't figured out my little bro's not a Pokemon fan these days. He and I have an... agreement.

[Thadius]

Game name: Pokemon Black
Time taken: 34 hours, 45 minutes.
Trainers beaten: Nigh unto all of them. Only the super-rich family has not yet been trounced, merely because they take an entire WEEK to draw out and smite properly.
Items collected: All that could be found in the current season. Next month, I'll use the snowdrifts to get those pesky, pesky things that are hiding.
Legendaries collected: All that could be within my version.
Pokedex: 310, I think. Maybe? Eh.
Cash: 2.5 mil. I think I'm gonna buy myself an office building.

[Azisien]

How did you get millions in 34 hours? Is it easier to make money in the new ones?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6302956.html?tag=recent_news%3Btitle%3B2

Damn 1,000,000 sold in one day. Yeah, it's official, Pokemon is a killer app. Nearly every gen broke sales records.

And god doesn't want me to buy pokemon black apparantly. what with my sunglasses randomly braking, the car braking down, and now being stuck home.

Would not surprise me if several cars almost hit me when I walk to game stop tomorrow morning.

[Thadius]

How did you get millions in 34 hours? Is it easier to make money in the new ones?

The short and long of it is YES. Money isn't an issue...

IF you know what to sell and to whom. Most importantly, do NOT sell what you've sold in past generations to shops. There's always a better spot to sell it.

The other half is Amulet Coin.

[Arcanum]

Couldn't you just fiddle with the DS clock to jump seasons? And the same thing with that super-rich family you mentioned.

[Thadius]

That would be more game-breaking than transferring over a beatstick squad from previous generations.

Plus I'm wary of messing with the internal clock. I beat the game quickly, I can be patient on these last two things.

[The Argent Lord]

I know messing with the internal clock disables all once-a-day events/abilities for 24 hours. Not sure about time-sensitive ones, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[akaSM]

I have all three if you'd like one. :D

I got them too, but I was wondering if someone needed one of these. Or just random trades to get more OT numbers, in case there's a lottery, like that in the radio tower, in the new games.

[Fenris]

I bought Pokemon White on impulse at a GameStop while I was in St. Louis cheering on our MVC Championship Women's Basketball team with the pep band.

My name is Dewey. I have a Snivy.

[Flarecobra]

You know... I was doing some thinking. I can sell off some of my old PS2/360/PSP games I don't really play much anymore... I think I can get the 30 or so bucks for it.

[Bob The Mercenary]

In his director's column, Junichi Masuda suggested that the geographical and social background for Unova draws inspiration from the New York City metropolitan area

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/88/Unova.jpg/300px-Unova.jpg

Skyarrow Bridge | Brooklyn Bridge
Castelia City | Lower Manhattan, Trade Center
Nimbasa City | Midtown Manhattan
Driftveil Drawbridge | Lincoln Tunnel
Driftveil City | Union City, New Jersey
Mistralton City | Teterboro, New Jersey (The Mistralton City Airport's real life counterpart is the Teterboro Airport.)
Icirrus City | Ridgefield, New Jersey
Opelucid City | Harlem
Village Bridge | Robert F. Kennedy (Triboro) Bridge
Marvelous Bridge | Queens-Midtown Tunnel
Entralink | Central Park Manhattan
Liberty Garden Island | Hybrid of Liberty State Park and Liberty Island


FREAKING OUT right now! Though they should really lower the tolls on the Driftveil Bridge IRL. :D

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Anyone got any Evees? Just asking cause I could use 3-4 of them. And if they can be caught in this game where can I find them? (Black Version)

[Flarecobra]

It needs to be traded into Gen 5 games, according to Bulbapedia.

[Fenris]

I have all three if you'd like one. :D

om nom gimme

Next-day-edit: Elesa, you goddamn Tsundere.

[Flarecobra]

Would you expect anything less from someone dressed like a Vocaloid?

[Bob The Mercenary]

om nom gimme

Which one you need? Just shoot me your friend code.

[Fenris]

Which one you need? Just shoot me your friend code.

Uh... I dunno. One of 'em to do things, mostly to do the Zorua event or something?

Not sure what my friend code is right now! I'm away from my wifi atm.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It needs to be traded into Gen 5 games, according to Bulbapedia.
God damn it... -_-

Whelp time to buy Heart Gold/Soul Silver then.

[Melfice]

Uh... I dunno. One of 'em to do things, mostly to do the Zorua event or something?

Not sure what my friend code is right now! I'm away from my wifi atm.

Zoroark, actually.
You need the Celebi to get Zorua.

Though you could just breed Zoroark and get a Zorua anyway. (I think? I think the Zoroark you get is female...)

[Fenris]

MY NAME IS FENRIS AND I DON'T KNOW THINGS

[Nikose Tyris]

I have both Zorua and Zoroark.

Zoroark is level 25, but Zorua evolves at level 30, I am confused.

[Bifrost]

Level 7(?) Pidgeotto and level 3 Metapod in Viridian Forest.

Underlevelled evolutions are not a new thing. I chalk it up to HAX.

[akaSM]

Also, Falkner's Pidgeotto, I think it was level 9 or something.

[Drownball-Champ]

Two other trainers in the game also have hax evolutions. I believe both are dragon-types too. Just like Lance's Dragonite.

[akaSM]

Oh yeah, and Lance's Dragonite got worse in the 2nd gen remakes. Seriously, a lv 40 Dragonite? That thing evolves 15 levels later.

[Azisien]

It's not hax guys. Those trainers loved and believed in their Pokemon.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Personally I blame the Miltank growth hormones in the water.

[Locke cole]

At least he's not the manga Lance, whose Hyper Beams never miss because they bounce off of nothing to get you if they miss.

[Thadius]

I believe I just won on the GTS.

Traded a level 70 Swanna for a level 100 shiny Rotom. Traded the Rotom for a level 100 Cofagrigus. Traded said Cofagrigus for a level 54 Zekrom.

And then as a follow-up? Traded my Level 69 Chandelure for a level 80 Stoutland. Then traded that Stoutland for a level 40 Thundarus.

Both legendaries that are exclusive to White are now on my Black cartridge and I didn't really lose anything I can't get back.

EDIT: You're assuming I loved any of them. Hell the Swanna was caught FOR that purpose. The Chandelure was awful and I was happy to see it go when the chance showed itself.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

You lost the love of your pokemans however. Treating them like common currency- for shame.
It's like trading a friend where you live for a friend who lives on the other side of the planet. You've got new opportunities and contacts but you've lost something along the way.

[Drownball-Champ]

You lost the love of your pokemans however. Treating them like common currency- for shame.
It's like trading a friend where you live for a friend who lives on the other side of the planet. You've got new opportunities and contacts but you've lost something along the way.

They are common currency. I was trafficking Pokemon in the last set of games. My Ditto were little whores.

[Locke cole]

Man, when America gets the proper Dream World options, I am so going to make my first-ever combat-ready Ditto.

That Imposter ability is going to make all the difference.

[Thadius]

TOKEN.

I'M CALLING YOU OUT, TOKEN.

MY BEATSTICK TEAM IS READY FOR YOU, BOY.

2236 6441 8709.

COME FACE ME, IF YOU DARE.

[akaSM]

So, it seems I can trade a couple games to get one of the new pokémon games. Should I do it or is it better to wait for the complimentary 3rd game? (grey?)

[Melfice]

So, it seems I can trade a couple games to get one of the new pokémon games. Should I do it or is it better to wait for the complimentary 3rd game? (grey?)

Apparently, there won't be a third game (á la Grey). This is something I've heard via-via, at least.

With some wishful thinking, this means they are now hard at work, creating a new Pokémon for the 3DS. :dance:

[Menarker]

I heard that before too. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_not_to_be_followed_by_a_third_vers ion)



But then I heard something different from higher up in the chain of command. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_downplays_%22No_third_version%22_speculatio n)


Mind you, he didn't explictively deny it... but I think it is likely that a 3rd game will come out... after sales drop down a little. :3

But yes, they do intend to continue pokemon into the 3DS (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iwata_affirms_Pok%C3%A9mon_on_3DS)


and also said that Black/White will be enhanced by the 3DS as well. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_be_enhanced_on_3DS)

[Nikose Tyris]

I'm currently looking for a Larvitar Egg for a Gen IV game. Can anyone oblige? I got nothin' special to offer.

Edit: Also Bagon.

[Ecks]

I'll tell you why there will be a "Grey": Kyurem.

There's code for two signature moves in there, but Kyurem can't learn them in Black or White.

Also, wtf, it is butt ugly. It is uglier than fifth's mom. There is no way it's not getting an alternate form (a la Giratina).

[Bob The Mercenary]

As soon as my team emerges from the hyperbolic time chamber I'll be ready to challenge you crazies. Also, who else totally exploited Victini by powerleveling their water and dark types by killing him over and over and over again?

[Nikose Tyris]

As soon as my team emerges from the hyperbolic time chamber I'll be ready to challenge you crazies. Also, who else totally exploited Victini by powerleveling their water and dark types by killing him over and over and over again?

*raises hand*

[Bob The Mercenary]

My 3DS friend code is 0173-1309-6501

My Pokemon White friend code is 3739-8948-5198

Hope to battle you soon!

[Premmy]

I was just thinking about the Monsters of the Pocket recently and I thought my enjoyment of the series would increaseten fold if in the beginning you had a choice of the three standard starter and an Eevee/current gen's equivalent. It'd make the progression through the game feel just a little more up to me and less rail-roaded.
thoughts?

[akaSM]

Having an Eevee as the starter is great, I loved having one in XD. Now with 7(?) different evolutions, it should be even better.

[Thadius]

Why HELLO THERE Bob.

You prepared to get TROUNCED?!

[Bob The Mercenary]

I'll be on momentarily. You will destroy me.

[Nikose Tyris]

I was just thinking about the Monsters of the Pocket recently and I thought my enjoyment of the series would increaseten fold if in the beginning you had a choice of the three standard starter and an Eevee/current gen's equivalent. It'd make the progression through the game feel just a little more up to me and less rail-roaded.
thoughts?

Eggin' it from the getgo is a ton of fun. I do exactly this. I caught a ton of Bidoof in Pearl, traded for all the starters from all 4 gens and 8 eevee eggs.

Wooooooooorth it.

[Bob The Mercenary]

I'm in the WiFi room...and SO LONELY! :(

[Thadius]

Hm. Lemme try something else.

You did register my code, right?

...I'm just not seeing you and I don't know why...

[Flarecobra]

Surprised we haven't started up a league or somesuch yet. :P

[Menarker]

I know Whomper tried doing that before... Himself and a few others being gym leaders of sort, and having some specific rules and all that.

[Thadius]

So, uh, hey.

Barring Mother Nature/Murphy giving Japan another once-over...

We'll be getting the Global Link on Wednesday. (http://en.pokemon-gl.com/pre/en.html)

[Melfice]

So, uh, hey.

Barring Mother Nature/Murphy giving Japan another once-over...

We'll be getting the Global Link on Wednesday. (http://en.pokemon-gl.com/pre/en.html)

What the hell. I completely forgot about this, but shouldn't we have gotten this, like, two weeks ago already?

Ah well.

[greed]

Well you may have heard of certain events interfering with Japan's ability to function.

[Melfice]

Well you may have heard of certain events interfering with Japan's ability to function.

Correct.

But I WAS under the assumption that this was something Japan already had before, and that this was something separate from what Japan already had.
The word "Global" did not ring a bell.

[Ecks]

My friend code's listed in my profile and sig (I think...). I may need to reEV some 5th gen stuff. I acted like Basculin were Magikarp and forgot the little bastards gave 2 speed evs instead of just one, thus wasting 3 points in speed on three pokemans. Just a lil bummed about not finding any battle items (life orb, etc.) in game outside of paying exhorbitant sums of BP, but getting the lucky egg through story progression was a stroke of brilliance.

[Azisien]

Stressing over losing 3 Speed. Hahahahaha.

[Thadius]

So uh, hey.

The Global Link is active NOW.

Just FYI.

[Ecks]

Stressing over losing 3 Speed. Hahahahaha.

No no, I wasn't stressing over losing speed. I had already maxed the speed stat, but I wasted 3 more points in it that could have been allocated to another stat (granted, 2 points are going to be wasted anyway, but I'd rather have one extra stat point somewhere).

[Thadius]

I need some ominous latin chanting to go on in the background, can anyone provide me some of tha-

*Ominous music here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiyKgeGWx0)*

There we go. Perfect. Ahem.

Gentlemen.

I have formulated, calculated, and confirmed my suspicions.

With my ONE dream world Gligar that someone was kind enough to ensure I got, I began a program that would result in what can only be described as an abomination.

I intend to make a Gliscor with perfect IV's across the board. With Poison Heal. I also intend to give it a Toxic Orb and a moveset that will take advantage of this.

But I know it will work. I know I will be able to replicate these results. I am working this equation down to one coupling that will, every time, procure a perfect Gligar.

Is anyone but me extremely interested in the end result of my program? Because if so, I'll make an extra one for you.

[Flarecobra]

You are becoming Joey, except you're going for the Top Percentage of Gligar/Gliscor.

[Token]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzz2lak6dn1qfbum9o1_500.jpg
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzz2nna8DW1qfbum9o1_500.jpg
Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2 were just announced. Coming out for the DS in June (In Japan, obviously.)

[Ryong]

HEY GUYS YOU WERE WAITING FOR POKÉMON GRAY?

WELL WE GOT SOME INNOVATION FOR YOU

IT'S THE SPECIAL EDITION OF ONE GAME FOR THE PRICE OF TWO

THAT'S HOW INNOVATION WORKS, RIGHT?

[Arcanum]

And it looks like the legendaries just fuse with Kyurem. That's pretty lame.

[Locke cole]

Well, it explains Freeze Bolt and Cold Flare.

I do hope that the story is either very interesting or a direct sequel, and that it will be easy to transfer my guys from Black.

[Whomper]

Those legendaries are the result of the designers having the following conversation:

"Well what else could we possibly turn into legendaries?"
"Wait, I know - how about we MERGE them!"
"So we won't have to make any more of them?"
"EXACTLY! People will think they're awesome!"
"Yeah! People like jet planes and dragons!"
"ALL OF THE DRAGONS!"
"RAAAAAAAAAAWWWRRRR!"
"ROOOOOOOOOARGH!"

...at least, that's how it went down in my head.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Well, it's a... new direction for Pokemon. It seems the games will be a great deal more improved then part 1.

[Loyal]

Well, it's a... new direction for Pokemon.Unless you have some information we don't, this is a rather narrow and very particular definition of "new direction".

[Aldurin]

Whelp, looks like I now know when I will be diving into Gen 5, kinda. They just better have the battle frontier or else.

[EVILNess]

Honestly, I was kind of impressed with B/W. Sure it wasn't a huge departure from the formula, but it definitely had a lot going for it compared to the last two generations.

The more involved Gym Leaders, the inclusion of two starter rivals each with their own reasons for traveling, and a deeper and slightly darker, for a pokemon game of course, story with an interesting moral take on the world of pokemon. The visuals where nice, and I loved the animated Mons in the battles.

Of course, I did feel that the Mon selection in this generation was a bit more limited. So. Many. Lackluster. Pokemon.

Since we are talking about Pokemon B/W, I kinda want to put out there that N was totally right.

Assuming you frame the world of Pokemon in the values of real life instead of the "Friendship always wins!" attitude it has, which I can't help but do by the way, N comes off as a nice guy who wants to make the world a better place.

Because you know that if you gave 10 year olds animals that could breath fire and lightning the world wouldn't be as happy as the Poke-verse is.

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Pokemon is a super-powered cockfighting sim.

Takes on an even deeper meaning when you consider that Blaziken, a pokemon based on a chicken, is a FIGHTING type.

[Aldurin]

Takes on an even deeper meaning when you consider that Blaziken, a pokemon based on a chicken, is a FIGHTING type.

Further irony in how he's one of the strongest non-legendaries you can have.

[Locke cole]

You don't have to do much reframing to paint N as a nice guy who wants to help. That's what he wants to do. The problem is that he's been... conditioned to come up with a rather extreme solution.

[Azisien]

As long as I don't have to trade my teams from B/W to B/W2. I wish they had announced a new Stadium-style game though, rather than whatever this is.

[Melfice]

As long as I don't have to trade my teams from B/W to B/W2. I wish they had announced a new Stadium-style game though, rather than whatever this is.

In an ideal world, they add an extra layer for 3DS users.
Just download an extra program, or maybe even use Pokédex 3D, to save your team.
Then just load B/W2 and voila! There's your old team. Then the game automatically reads the levels of the pokémon you transferred, and adjusts the leaders' levels accordingly.

For old DS users, you'd just have to trade the 'mons the old way.

[Flarecobra]

Ok, they released the artwork for the PC characters...

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3525/2e7340b7b53f0adfb9d1858.jpg

So you got the Male PC... and a human verson of Minnie Mouse.

Yeah, I think I'll play a male PC for the first time since Gen2.

[Aldurin]

No fedoras yet . . . dammit.

[Loyal]

The girl's hair isn't nearly as unsightly as the dude's mop. Not to mention that this girl is not wearing those awful short-shorts with exposed pockets.

[Flarecobra]

The girl's hair isn't nearly as unsightly as the dude's mop. Not to mention that this girl is not wearing those awful short-shorts with exposed pockets.

I like the guy's hair! Reminds me of how some of my friends had their's out in California.

[EVILNess]

Why are they both wearing leotards?

[Flarecobra]

My guess? Some kinda thermal protection, Especally if you see what happoned in the two years since the events in B/W. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Unova_B2W2.png)

[Arcanum]

Due to the increasing cases of hypothermia as a result of soaking wet clothes from pokemon trainers adventuring across bodies of water or trying to solve puzzles that involve the use of HM03, all pokemon trainers are hereby required to wear a wetsuit underneath his or her traveling clothes. EDIT - Or what Flare said

Also the girl's hair is like Princess Leia meets anime.

[Menarker]

I'm hoping that this game will finally have a dark type gym. Seriously, no dark gyms in 5 generations. I mean, some of them are represented by Elite 4 members, but it doesn't feel the same (especially the reward of getting a new TM).

Hell, Dark type needs to get at least 1 single move (preferably non-signature) that has 100 base power or more.

The type could really use some love...

Then again, it would be kinda odd to have dark type thrives when B/W has SO many new bug and Fighting types, which kinda would put a damper on the usefulness of dark types in that region. >_>

[akaSM]

What I thought upon examining the male trainer.

That's a face...is that a palm tree on his head? The design wants to tell me something...

At least he doesn't have a horrible beret or something :P

[Locke cole]

Well, if the right guy uses Beat Up, that's effectively 100+ power.

[RobinStarwing]

I thought the girl looked like Sailor Moon personally. :D

http://gelbooru.com//images/1276/038e0526d1f1f7405ea365577194326f.jpg

[Menarker]

Well, if the right guy uses Beat Up, that's effectively 100+ power.

Well, technically Payback and Assurance can also do 100 power under certain circumstances too, but that doesn't mean it should be the only type that has to jump through several hoops to get base power moves that other types get fairly easily. (I could also say the same for ghost types, since the only move above 80 power is a legendary signature move)

Would also be neat if we got some more type variations. Would like to see a Water/Bug type that isn't Surskit. Poor pokemon had a unique typing but loses it upon evolution.

[Flarecobra]

Also, Foul Play, 95 power, and it improves the higher the attack rating on the enemy is.

And I agree.. like there should be a fire/poison type, for example.

Hell, make some more fire-types in general. >_> Seriously, out of the 48 fire types, 23 are either legendary or starters. Means you got 25 that are even relatively common. 25, out of over 600.

[Menarker]

Foul Play is neat in general, especially if your own pokemon is sacrificing attack stats to boost its other stats, but relying on your opponent's choice of pokemon is always risky. (Although I would love it on an Umbreon.)

I'd personally question the value of a fire/poison type, given that the only type that Poison is useful against (Grass) Fire is good against too. Poison also doesn't protect fire types from any of its weaknesses and visa versa (And even gives it a disasterous quad weakness to ground). And the status effects compete for the same slot, since they both do damage over time, but one wants to pump damage more over time and the other wants to reduce the foe's attack stat at the same time. (I keep thinking of it as a sentient cigar)

Then again, we DO have weaksauce typing pokemon like Golem (two common quad weaknesses) and Parasect (5x weakness to Fire with Dry Skin ability!). So I guess something like that wouldn't be out of the picture. I just imagine it wouldn't be terribly competitive. Although immunity to both Burn and Poison is a nice touch, I suppose.

Hmmm, more type variations for electric types would be good, given almost all the electric types are single type.
One or two more pure flying type that isn't legendary wouldn't hurt though. :3

And yeah, I always found fire types to be kinda limited in choices. Doesn't help that so many of them starters are fire/fighting. (All in a row to boot! It's like one of the developers is getting off on creating these types)

Hell, I would like a Fire/Water pokemon. Just make it a "Geyser" pokemon. Capable of both Eruption AND/OR Water Spout? SOLD! Fire help against grass, Water helps against rock/ground, Quad resist to Ice, Steel and Fire, able to use either Rain Dance or Sunny Day (at the expense of the other half of its type), and a very nice diversity of super effective targets that doesn't overlap. Although given its nature of being super hot, it might be one of the few if only water pokemon not be to able to learn ice moves...

Alternatively, if we want to get creative, we could do a Fire/Grass type akin to "Moses' Burning Bush". Sunny Day boost fire type and Solar Beam (and maybe an ability like Chlorophyll or Solar Power which would regain lost health from grass's drain moves). Typewise grass helps against water, ground and rock while fire helps against ice and bug while hitting the steel type that grass can't easily handle. Also quad resist grass. Sleep or Stun Powder can be quite useful if one would rather forgo the burning statuses.

[Flarecobra]

Sounds like a pokemon that Scald would be perfect for.

Plus, it's not like there arn't a bunch of exothermic aquatic creatures out there that they could draw insperation from.

[RobinStarwing]

I still want to see a Dark/Psychic Type...an Eevee evolution that happens during an eclipse would be perfect for this!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

We still need Eveeolutions for a few more types anyways. So far we have Normal, Fire, Water, Lightning, Psychic, Dark, Grass and Ice. That still leaves Bug, Flying, Dragon, Ghost, Poison and Fighting.

[POS Industries]

To make Eevee evolve into a ghost type, you take the evolution stone and just bash it over the head until it stops moving.

[RobinStarwing]

To make Eevee evolve into a ghost type, you take the evolution stone and just bash it over the head until it stops moving.

Um POS, I think Pokemon is trying to NOT encourage animal abuse but I could be wrong after all it is cockfighting (literally if you consider Blaziken).
....*inserts awkward silence*...

Cue the dancing penis!
http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ani050.gif

[Menarker]

What might also be neat is giving Poison type a legendary. Since they are the only type without one.

A non-exhaustive list of typings and their representatives:
Normal: Arceus (technically, he could be other types plates, but normal is default). Gigagigas is another if you want a more stable option.
Fire: Several, starting with Moltres and ending with Reshiram.
Water: Kyogre, Suicune and Palkia immediately pops to mind.
Electric: Several, starting with Zapdos and ending with Zekrom.
Grass: Celebi and Shaymin immediately pops to mind.
Ice: A couple including Articuno and Kyurem, who will be more prominent next game.
Ground: Groudon and Landorus comes to mind.
Rock: Terrakion
Steel: Jirachi and Cobalion comes to mind.
Fighting: The entire Musketeer group.
Psychic: Who could forget Mewtwo/Mew among several others?
Flying: Several, the most famous probably being the elemental birds of Red/Blue and the two mascots of Gold/Silver. Props goes to Tornadus for being the only pure flying type as well.
Bug: Genesect at least.
Dark: Darkrai
Ghost: Giratina.
Dragon: The Cosmic Trio and the Tao Trio.

As you can see, every other type has at least one representative, although Poison doesn't have one. Would be neat if that changed for the next one as well.

[DarkDrgon]

So, my friends and I are doing some weird HG/SS challenge thing. I don't know the name, but basically it goes...

release/box your starter as soon as possible.The first 6 pokeymans you catch are your team. You must have all six slots full by the 5th badge, and your starter released before getting your first.

my Idea so far is to grab a Geodude or pidgey right from the start and adopt it as my starter. spam the game corner and safari zone to get some of my favorites, and grab an evee to evolve into whatever type I need to balance out my team.

Any standout advice for this?

[Ecks]

Yeah, for one you can't release your starter. Believe me, I've tried.

[DarkDrgon]

It'll go right into storage then

[Flarecobra]

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8b/CoroCoro_June_2012_2.jpg

So, they revealed some new things about the supporting cast, including character redesigns.

I have to admit, Bianca actually looks cute in glasses.

And Cheren is now a gym leader. N is still missing. And Bianca is Prof. Juniper's assistant.

More information is found here. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro_reveals_new_information_on_Black_2_and_Wh ite_2) Spoilers beyond link.

[Locke cole]

An early, Normal-Type Gym leader, at that. Hurm...

[RobinStarwing]

You think that's something...try this trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhnt4ytE3k&feature=youtu.be).

[Locke cole]

Makes me sad. Sad to know that the real anime doesn't have animation quite that good, or a protagonist that isn't Ash.

But yeah, that was great. I could watch that fight scene over and over again, or just stare at that spinning Magneton.

In in-game news, I'm building a team around Slaking. Seriously. It involves Cofagrigus, an Eject Button, and Pursuit. Now, I'm just building teammates to support him against the stuff that he has trouble with.

[Bells]

Right of the bat, here is the new trailer

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So, of course i went to and made my own version with less generic guitar rifs and more awesome.

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If the anime were like that i wouldn't mind watching it...

Also, this video seems to imply that the game will have some animated cutscenes. Could it possible be that the Pokemon franchise is... trying to change? LE GASP!

[Flarecobra]

You know, for that trailer... it looked less like ice, and more like crystal.

And it seems the male PC is gonna be the canon character.
That poor seviper....*sadface*

[akaSM]

Well, they could always do what they did with Pokémon Chronicles, and I would LOVE that...catching the show and actually watching it is a completely different problem, college! :argh:

[RobinStarwing]

New Trailers out in Japan. Skyla is still Gym Leader(awesome!) and Ghestis is still a horrible power-hungry asshole of a monster. Oh and N reappears!

New Trailer 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CRRvATNOt8&feature=youtu.be)
New Trailer 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcVRR5SEN-0&feature=youtu.be)

Edit: And also


From Serebii.net: "Two new features of Black 2 & White 2 have been revealed by a promotional pamphlet posted on a Japanese Blog. First is the Fes Mission, which has you partake in missions with friends, in a similar manner to the EntraLink Missions in Black & White and get prizes based upon your score. This is done via the wireless features.

Second is Join Avenue, which is part of a shopping centre which you can build with various friends via connecting with them. It's currently unknown to what extent but there is an image of putting a stand in the shop. Other players will be able to visit your shop while you can visit theirs ."

[Yumil]

Got Pokemon Conquest yesterday, extremely simple for a strategy game, but decidedly good. By far the best spinoff pokemon game.