TF2 - Now with more engineer

[Jagos]

Read em and weep boys... (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4013&p=1)

Engie is getting some story time.

-Ed- Holy fuck, Honest Abe is a friggin Pyro ancestor!

[Doc ock rokc]

Potential weapon leaked.
Australum Wrench (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8CGJXRMlmA)

[Flarecobra]

I FREAKING KNEW IT!

Wonder what the new wrench does? Extra damage on enemy buildings? More efficent building?

[Art of Hilt]

Is he-
Is the Engie actually stealing ammo?

[Viridis]

Someone help me through this existential crisis. I can't tell if Saxton or Barnabas Hale is more awesome.


Also, it's interesting to see that both brothers are till alive in the game's present.


Can we identify all the people in the team of mercs?
Lincoln | Pyro
Some guy who looks vaguely like Tesla | Engie
Davy Crockett | Sniper
Some sort of cowboy | Scout
Some asian(?) guy | Spy
John Henry | Heavy
??? | Demo
Civil war (?) soldier | Soldier
Medic-analogue

EDIT: Also! Read the entries (http://www.teamfortress.com/loosecanon/13.html) for the machine. He built a third.

[Loyal]

EDIT: Also! Read the entries for the machine. He built a third.Probably for the announcer.

The australian woman has a moustache. What.

[Jagos]

Scout: Billy the Kid
Soldier: Stonewall Jackson
Pyro: Abe Lincoln
Heavy: John Henry
Engineer: Nikola Tesla
Medic: Otto von Bismarck
Sniper: Davy Crocket
Spy: Fu Manchu

[Viridis]

Anyone have any idea who the demo might be?

Edit: Some believe it's their original demo concept (http://www.ryansgoblog.com/images/team_fortress_2_demoman_concept.jpg). Sneaky.

[Carade]

Probably for the announcer.

The australian woman has a moustache. What.

Also, she's walking a kangaroo.

[Art of Hilt]

Anyone have any idea who the demo might be?
.

Probably one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_gold_prospectors) guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_of_the_California_Gold_Rush).

[Revising Ocelot]

So if all Australians are muscle-bound and have moustaches...


And the Sniper isn't muscle-bound and doesn't have a moustache...


Then he's not a real Australian.
And his parents hate him for that.

[Viridis]

Real Australians just throw their bullets at enemies. Or better yet, throw a wallaby.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

real australians will get you drunk on shitty beer and desert heat then hit you with a 2x4 and steal your truck.

[Viridis]

CRAFT. CRAFT FOR YOUR LIVES. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4026&p=1)

Update drops on Thursday, it seems.

[EVILNess]

Ahh damn, there is no way I'll get one. I don't have enough crap to do that.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Meh, blog be down at the moment :(

[Flarecobra]

So if all Australians are muscle-bound and have moustaches...


And the Sniper isn't muscle-bound and doesn't have a moustache...


Then he's not a real Australian.
And his parents hate him for that.

His mother seems to like him, and his father just thinks he's a crazed gunman.

[Aerozord]

he did say "my parents do not care for it" so probably just differing degrees of disapproval.

And, I cant believe we actually get a map of the setting. Took me a moment to realize what Teufort was, and suprised its all called "Badlands"

[stefan]

frontier justice, eh?

something tells me that newbie engies are going to flip their shit over people repairing their sentries after this ALMOST as much as idiot soldiers were flipping out over being healed when they had the equalizer.

[Viridis]

I could see offensive engies loving this. Drop a lvl 1 near a fight. Sure to get assists if nothing else.

[Aerozord]

what I see, is this getting nerfed within a week

[Yrcrazypa]

Crafted half a dozen items on my lunch break and no Golden Wrench. Ah, well. Back to work for me.

[Flarecobra]

I just noticed... The hat-Gun on Lincon.

Wish that could be made ingame..

[Viridis]

Every 25th wrench found will result in the release of more information on the Engineer Update.

That's just devious.



What's with the diagram of a machine that seems made to, when a person stands on the plate behind Lincoln, swings him down into a teleporter and swings a duplicate up? The implications are... interesting.

[Eldezar]

Perfect. I craft all of my spare items on Friday, and the wrench crafting is over the weekend when I'm not even playing.

[Doc ock rokc]

Craffed alot of shit. Didn't get the wrench...but did get the Hound Dog.
...fair trade.

[Viridis]

I keep seeing the announcements (three so far) and I kept thinking those people were on the same servers as me. I was finding that increasingly odd and jokingly ranted They're stealing my luck! until I was informed that the announcement reaches everyone.

Bloody devious to advertise One less wrench out there! I crafted all my duplicates and started playing to get more. You start eying your inventory, sizing up which unlocks you could part with.

They actually got me to play the game. The sneaky bastards.


Crafted a lot of stuff. Got the Bloke's bucket hat and crafted it with my Shooter's sola topi. Got the Engineer's cap.
I can live with that.



Edit: An examination of how the Frontier Justice will change things (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342791). I'm liking everything I read.

[Jagos]

Gotta admit, they really learned their lesson on how to do the updates now.

[Viridis]

They have been getting progressively more enticing. Day Two drops when 50 wrenches are found, yes?

Also: Think we're getting a Meet the Pyro or Medic with this update?

Edit: I think I remember an interview with Robin saying they were working on Meet the Pyro.

[Aerozord]

you guys do realize that these wrenches are incredibly rare. Think about it, people must be crafting like mad since hearing about this. There must be hundreds, maybe thousands of people crafting multiple items a day, and we seem to be seeing about 10 wrenches appearing a day. The odds are well below the 1% mark

[Viridis]

'course. Everyone knows this but it's the same as the lottery. You play despite the odds because you hope to be the lucky jerk who gets it.

[Aerozord]

you know I got a slight complaint about the comic. Just because it implies the engineer didn't even design his sentry gun

[Jagos]

I don't think that's the case.

He built his baby from scratch probably with modifications to the regular specs, such as Level 2 and/or level 3.

It's kind of like saying how a Subaru WRX has a Boxer EJ25 engine vs a Nissan Skyline with the RB26DETT specs. They're engines but different people designed them and modded them as needed.

[Funka Genocide]

I just bought this game like a week ago and its pretty fun. I still have no idea what I'm doing, but the object is to make the 13 year old boy get so upset his voice breaks right?

I'm pretty sure that's it.

(Also screw engineers, Heavy is where its at. I don't even have to be good! All the medics know to heal me as I spray hot spam-death into my enemies! Soldier would be cool too if I could figure out how to aim my rocket jumps.)

[Doc ock rokc]

Funka Whats your Steam? we can hook up and I can teach you some stuff.

[Flarecobra]

Wait...

Now we know the BLU engineer's name! "Dell Conagher." This now raises a few questions from me.

Could this mean all the others might have their names revealed?

What's RED Engineer's name?

[Funka Genocide]

What is my Steam?

hmm... what is my steam?

I don't know! I might get back to you on that.

[The Wandering God]

Engineer is in my top 3, so I would LOVE a Golden Wrench. Time to get my craft on. (Too bad I can only play a couple of hours a week at the library until I get internet at my new place.)

Hopefully I won't need to sacrifice any orphans to get what I want though.

[EVILNess]

One wrench before 50. A new item is about to be unveiled, be aware.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

What is my Steam?

hmm... what is my steam?

I don't know! I might get back to you on that.

Basically you have your buddy name, which is what your friends will see on their list, that you can change.
What he's referring to though is your Steam ID, it'd be whatever you put into the name field when you log in.

Mine as an example is Grthwllms.

[EVILNess]

NEW ITEM: THE WRANGLER (http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/)

[Aerozord]

I have mixed feelings, its one of those items I'll have to see it in play first. Sounds ok but the fact the sentry can lock on and blast away enemies is one of its strong points and it takes away your ability to continually repair it since you'll have to aim it.

[The Wandering God]

But it gets shields and it is more dangerous once fully upgraded.

What I'm seeing from Valve isn't new buildings, but new ways to use them.

I wonder how the other unlock(s) will affect/be affected by the other buildings.

[Aerozord]

but they still dont solve what people hate most about being engineers, being leashed to your sentry. Or to be more exact to one spot.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

but they still dont solve what people hate most about being engineers, being leashed to your sentry. Or to be more exact to one spot.

There is no way to solve that though, it's the point of the class.
It's just like you can't solve the Pyro needing to set people on fire, the soldier having a rocket launcher or the Heavy moving slowly.

[EVILNess]

but they still dont solve what people hate most about being engineers, being leashed to your sentry. Or to be more exact to one spot.

Frontier Justice is a GIGANTIC BOON to offensive engineering. You set down a level one sentry and then start blasting people.

I see the pistol replacement as kinda a boon to the defensive engie. Since you can aim the turret I will assume that this means we can shoot at enemies outside of the detection range of the unmanned sentry. So while you are still chained to your sentry, you can shoot people further out with it.

[Viridis]

Everyone don't overlook that they increased the amount of items that can drop for you this week, in case you think you hit your cap.


Also, the page now has ANOTHER reference to Lincoln. Oddly it calls John Wilkes Booth 'John "Tower ----something."


Someone pointed out these achievements:
Honky Tonk Man
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/HONKY_TONK_MAN.jpg

Six-String Stinger
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/SIX-STRING_STINGER.jpg

Engie might be going all El Kabong come the update.

[Jagos]

And I was trying not to play.

Oh well, who's up for a game of catch the rocket?

[Aerozord]

anyone else know this? If you are playing the game it gives you an alert everytime a golden wrench is crafted reguardless of server. Which I know for sure as I was playing walkway so it was just me

[Viridis]

anyone else know this? If you are playing the game it gives you an alert everytime a golden wrench is crafted reguardless of server. Which I know for sure as I was playing walkway so it was just me
Yeah I mentioned it earlier. A whole bit about how I was freaking out because someone was finding one on every server I went to.

I think Valve is trying to get people to burn their inventory, so that the trading system will be of greater use when they release it. :DThat's... actually an interesting idea.

[Doc ock rokc]

I was less then one second away from the 55th and 56th wrench. both times I crafted something within .2 seconds of the announcement. One time I though I won...

[Yrcrazypa]

Yeah, that happened to me several times too. I got so excited, but then I realized I didn't get anything.

[Viridis]

Now we can finally discuss the update. I love the Wrangler and the Frontier Justice's revenge crits are great in a pinch.

The Gunslinger is great when playing an offensive Engie.

Being able to move your sentry is a godsend for a million little reasons.

[Aerozord]

honestly being able to move the sentry alone greatly changed playing styles and my willingness to go engie. Over all I dont really have any complaints. Though achievements are way too grind heavy but thats just a nit pick.

Oh wait, there is a massive complaint. I WANT MY MEET THE CAST VIDEO. Come on last class update ever and you dont release either of the last two?

[Flarecobra]

Yep. It can be a pain in the butt. Have to figure out a new defense agenst these new mini-sents... that people seem to LOVE to put near the spawnpoints.

[Viridis]

honestly being able to move the sentry alone greatly changed playing styles and my willingness to go engie. Over all I dont really have any complaints. Though achievements are way too grind heavy but thats just a nit pick.
Oh yes. I've taken to building outside (or in the case of blackmesa, INSIDE) of spawn where there's easy metal then toting my sentry somewhere else.
Oh wait, there is a massive complaint. I WANT MY MEET THE CAST VIDEO. Come on last class update ever and you dont release either of the last two?Agreed. And I had heard (in an interview) they were working on Meet the Pyro.

Luckily, we're not done yet.
We have a lot of stuff planned. The Engineer is not the end of TF2 by far, but I can't really talk about specifics. We have so many things cooking I'm not even sure what's next.
Polycount produced so much good stuff, it's going to keep me personally very busy for a while designing & coding functionality for all the new items. (Implementing weapons is one of my favorite things.) I know the other TF2 devs all have things they want to ship soon, too.



EDIT:
Yep. It can be a pain in the butt. Have to figure out a new defense agenst these new mini-sents... that people seem to LOVE to put near the spawnpoints.
If you can get close, they're really easy to take down. A few stickies, a sapper, a rocket... plus they can't be repaired.

[Aerozord]

mini-sentries mostly just need a different psychology. They cant be repaired so dont worry about destroying it in one go. Also if you are like a heavy you can just smash through it.

Oh and who else loves wrangle+engie buddy, anyone?

[Flarecobra]

Yeah... but they're annoying for pyro... which is my main class. (Like it was that much of a secret. :P )

[Aerozord]

shot/flaregun helps, or just get some help. This is team fortress, dont have to go it alone. Heck just invite me to the game ^_^

[Flarecobra]

You're never around!

[Aerozord]

dont give me that I've been on steam for like, that last 8 hours, and this was one of my busy days, in fact, I'm gonna go play right now. Just to spite you

[Jagos]

honestly being able to move the sentry alone greatly changed playing styles and my willingness to go engie. Over all I dont really have any complaints. Though achievements are way too grind heavy but thats just a nit pick.

Oh wait, there is a massive complaint. I WANT MY MEET THE CAST VIDEO. Come on last class update ever and you dont release either of the last two?

Last I remember, Meet the Pyro should be next. All from the eyes of... A Pyro

*Evil Cackle*