Left 4 Dead: The Sacrifice

[Flarecobra]

They're now working on DLC that tells the story about what happoned with the origional survivers...

Link (http://www.1up.com/news/the-sacrifice-left-4-dead)

Also... "No Mercy" will be added to Left 4 Dead 2... that I'll have to wait and see to make a judgement about. And will they keep the Killer Humvee of Death?

And yes, this stuff will be free, except for 360 players.

Who all's excited for it?

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I know I am

[Viridis]

I don't have L4D but I can appreciate how much Valve is trying to become everyone's best friend with stuff like this and TF2.

[Specterbane]

And now I want to have a better computer EVEN more. This sounds amazing though, it'll be fun to play with the old survivors too. I wonder if they'll keep the game play like it was in L4D1 or if they'll have differences between the 1 and 2 download.

...gamers will also be allowed to play out their own version of the events and choose which character they think should die in the end.

And now I can't help but think of all the times Lewis startled the witch.

[Flarecobra]

And startled EVERYTHING in the opening.

And apperentally they'll be able to kill Infected to the lyrical stylings of Midnight Riders as well.

Most excellent.

[Azisien]

I'm pretty pumped. I know I could just boot up L4D whenever but I'm accustomed to just L4D2 nowadays, and No Mercy was my favourite campaign from the original.

[CheshireThief]

I'd be even more pumped if the 360 people got it for free...

Oh well! This is an amazing game anyway, and I'm always a fan of adding more content to games like this. Keeps the unnecessary sequel count down.

[krogothwolf]

Sweet! Lewis is going to die so much! And I'll laugh every time he dies.

Also, what is up with Microsoft lately, upping fees from Xbox live and still charging for stuff that others get free? Greedy Greedy Greedy.

[CABAL49]

I have intended to add some of you to my Steam. I have both L4Ds. CABAL is me.

[mauve]

Awwww, why does everyone hate Louis? Louis is cool. He's so happy! All the time!!

Actually. I think the only survivor from the entire L4D franchise I don't really care about is Coach. He's always seemed devoid of personality to me.

But anyway, yeah. Totally excited for the new DLC. Normally I'd be worried if a game developer decided to do a "sequel" revealing characters' backgrounds, especially LIKEABLE characters like the L4D survivors who manage to be awesome without elaborate backstories, but I trust Valve not to ruin things. They haven't let me down yet.

[Liquid Snake]

Hold up, hold up.

This is the DLC that definitively establishes the circumstances of Bill's death, right?
How could you possibly support this? Valve, those heartless ingrates, killed off the only character in the entire L4D franchise worth giving a damn about.

Oh yes, yes, I know what you're saying. "But Snake, we get to choose who dies in this version! It's interactive!" Psh. No it's not. Sure, you can have fun torturing Louis. But the bottom line is, he's still canonically alive. What matters is the canon. And the canon stabbed me in the heart. Stabbed me and left me to bleed out in tears.

[Eldezar]

Which is exactly what VALVe wanted.

[Flarecobra]

Sweet! Lewis is going to die so much! And I'll laugh every time he dies.

Also, what is up with Microsoft lately, upping fees from Xbox live and still charging for stuff that others get free? Greedy Greedy Greedy.

Because it's Valve that's giving the stuff away? And Microsoft has to get said stuff from Valve in this case... and that costs money.

[Azisien]

Valve, those heartless ingrates, killed off the only character in the entire L4D franchise worth giving a damn about.

This is obvious hyperbole, I like most of the L4D characters, like, maybe half!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Awwww, why does everyone hate Louis? Louis is cool. He's so happy! All the time!!

I think they're just jealous of his tie. He's a stylish mo'fo like that.

[Flarecobra]

And they all want his PILLZ.

And WHY do I see this happonening with you all?

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5770/e2b8eb4f532a17ddc269512.jpg

[TitoTheHappy]

I am a pretty ridiculous Valve fanboy so I am incredibly excited for the new DLC. Louis was my favorite to play as in the first L4D and I was always very very disappointed every time I couldn't be him.

[Wizardcat]

And WHY do I see this happonening with you all?
That's actually quite the accurate portrayal of what I do for a witch in the way! I play as Zoey, and get close enough to the witch for her to notice. When she growls, I back up behind the closest bot (usually Louis). It works!

And Louis is gonna get his ass sacrificed whenever I'm playing alone. He's so annoying, the way he's always so optimistic. Only Ellis is more annoying.

[Doc ock rokc]

I like louis! and Ellis...and Bill and Most of the survivors except Rochell my only regret is that i can't kill her.

[mauve]

Only Ellis is more annoying. HERESY! BLASPHEMY! VILLAINY!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

And Louis is gonna get his ass sacrificed whenever I'm playing alone. He's so annoying, the way he's always so optimistic. Only Ellis is more annoying.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/GLARE.jpg

[Flarecobra]

Wow that's a lot of backlash on him.

Much-deserved backlash nevertheless.

[CheshireThief]

Am I alone in my liking of Nick?

He's the most CT-esque of the survivors!

And Ellis gives L4D2 so much comedy relief. Even if I didn't like him, I -love- his buddy Keith.

Make Keith playable in DLC, I say!

[mauve]

Nick is actually one of my favorites. That horrible, horrible suit.

[Yrcrazypa]

I like Nick the best out of the L4D2 cast, though I still prefer both Bill and Francis from L4D.

[Flarecobra]

I could see Nick doing a John Travolta impersonation at a Disco...

And he had the whole antihero thing going on...

[CheshireThief]

Easy on the suit! It's $3000!

[Mannix]

If they ever make Left 2 Dead it had better just be Francis and Nick shooting zombies and ripping on each other all the time.

[Flarecobra]

http://www.l4d.com/comic/comic.php?page=0

And now, part 1 of The Sacrifice comic. Louis for a change doesn't act like an idiot.

[DFM]

Hey that's actually pretty good.

[mauve]

The thread necromancy is thematically fitting.

Part II of the comic is up. (http://www.l4d.com/comic/comic.php?page=43)

Okay. No. I'm sorry. Zoey is way too calm and happy-go-lucky in the game for me to reasonably believe that just weeks before the events of L4D, she watched her mom turn into a zombie and her father get shot in the head by her own hand. Valve, I love you and all, and I'm tentatively enjoying the storyline so far, but I can't willingly suspend my disbelief to the point of where I can accept the fact that in the game, Zoey can crack jokes with Francis and not be an emotional wreck only a week or two after losing both parents in an extremely violent and traumatizing manner.

As far as I'm concerned or will ever BE concerned, this ain't canon. XD I'm diggin' the military complex plotline, though.

[Doc ock rokc]

Okay. No. I'm sorry. Zoey is way too calm and happy-go-lucky in the game for me to reasonably believe that just weeks before the events of L4D, she OMG OMG Valve, I love you and all, and I'm tentatively enjoying the storyline so far, but I can't willingly suspend my disbelief to the point of where I can accept the fact that in the game, Zoey can crack jokes with Francis and not be an emotional wreck only a week or two after OMG OMG

As far as I'm concerned or will ever BE concerned, this ain't canon. XD I'm diggin' the military complex plotline, though.

Actually i know a few people that after their grandparents died cracked jokes to hide their pain. I myself Try to cheer up others to hide my own. So what zoey is doing is just a form of denial in a sense.

[Viridis]

It's interesting uninformed the military is (having not left base) and I like how the comic goes "yes, giant zombies that toss cars is an idea that DOES sound insane when you say it out loud."

[Azisien]

The only sad part about that comic, which I am thoroughly enjoying, is that it's not a playable campaign.

[mauve]

Hmmm. Does anybody know what the actual playable DLC will be about yet? I'm assuming it won't take place until at least the point when the sirens flare up and the zombies kill a bunch of the soldiers, if it's going to cover any of the comic material at all, since Valve would have to add in a bunch of semi-friendly soldier AI's if it took place any earlier.

So far this comic has made me miss Bill even more. :(

[PyrosNine]

I want a DLC map where we play as Louis, Francis, and Nameless Male Soldier and Nameless short Female soldier.

Though I think the comic should also end with some stuff after The passing, so we learn if the trio survive without bill, or if they get new ally (the doc!)

The witch's appearance was good, showing her as being the only infected with something resembling sanity (and not a Survivor) and being proven passive by walking by without so much as a shriek.

The lack of belief in tanks and super Whiskey Delta's is silly, because y'know, the rescue chopper seemed to have known what they are, and the events of Left4dead didn't happen that long after the infection. Unless the fort has been incredibly out of the loop to the point that shucks, they don't even know how against zombies, handguns have infinite ammo!

I also want to see maybe some scientific evidence that the survivors are also mutated, and explain why yeah, they die just like any other creature, infected or otherwise, but also can recover from being mauled, crushed, or set on fire by taking pills and getting a quick patch up from a medkit. No Francis, you are the vampires!

If so, the future of the Left 4 Dead world will be ruled by the race of Survivors, who will hunt the night and scourge the land of undead, and kill any foolish humanus inferior who attempt to stop them by just breathing in their presence! And then shooting them in the head so they don't turn into Tanks. Or Hunters. Smokers if they work in the porn industry. Boomers are okay. Witches are unlikely, though someone could have modded the game.

[Doc ock rokc]

I want a DLC map where we play as Louis, Francis, and Nameless Male Soldier and Nameless short Female soldier.based on the fact that They have distinct voice bubbles, slight differences in uniform and are becoming friends with some of the "carriers" their is a distinct possibility that they will at least be support characters (also one is named Jeff). Also Thanks valve! My zombiphobia wasn't kicking up because the entire time i was thinking. Hey at least there is people that can't get infected/i can't get infected. But now I am starting to get the trimmers! Fuckers!


I also want to see maybe some scientific evidence that the survivors are also mutated, and explain why yeah, they die just like any other creature, infected or otherwise, but also can recover from being mauled, crushed, or set on fire by taking pills and getting a quick patch up from a medkit. No Francis, you are the vampires! I think i read something (rather unrelated to L4D but still) on how under High stress durations humans can reach super human levels of endurance strength and gain abilities to offset pain, mostly due to adrenalin. the classic case of the mother who lifted a entire car off of here child was a example. In this case Your adrenal glans would be off the fucking chain so the primary need to survive would be the thing there.

[Flarecobra]

Hmmm. Does anybody know what the actual playable DLC will be about yet? I'm assuming it won't take place until at least the point when the sirens flare up and the zombies kill a bunch of the soldiers, if it's going to cover any of the comic material at all, since Valve would have to add in a bunch of semi-friendly soldier AI's if it took place any earlier.

So far this comic has made me miss Bill even more. :(

It'll be the events surrounding Bill (Or whoever you pick)'s death, and how the bridge got raised in the first place I imagine.

Oh, and that comic just adds to my theory about Witches.

[Doc ock rokc]

Part 3 Is up. Shit Francis and Bill are assholes (http://www.l4d.com/comic/comic.php?page=84)

[Azisien]

117-121 better be Left 4 Dead 3 foreshadowing.

[Flarecobra]

...Is that a Witch claw at the end there?

and WHY do I suspect it'll have a connection with Bill?

And perhaps that's one reason why The Infected attack non-infected, and sometimes fight each other... they see others as monsters.

[Doc ock rokc]

Gun welding Uncommon infected? anyone? maybe the bullet proof armor makes it so you have to punch them down then shoot them in the head to avoid being shot.

[Viridis]

Bill has a very hard job being Bill.

[Flarecobra]

http://sadpanda.us/images/229868-2USCIWG.png

It just me... or is that the main character from Dead Rising 2?

[Azisien]

Yep, it is. The L4D team must have mad props for other sweet zombie developers. Me? I'm hoping we see a crossover in some fashion, some day. Like a DLC where an NPC is a photographer who's covered wars, you know? Or a secret level in Dead Rising 2 where a boss is like, a tank or something.

I think I gotta go change my pants.

[Flarecobra]

Well, in The Passing, there was a message from Frank West...

He didn't make it it seems, but we can't confirm it.

[Azisien]

Right, I forgot about that. *crosses fingers*

[mauve]

More thread necromancy!!

I haven't finished the comic yet, but I got about halfway through.

Francis' dream sequence? Best thing ever.
Francis in a speedo? Not so much.
Yacht full of bikini-zombies? Facepalmingly hilarious.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Yacht full of bikini-zombies? Facepalmingly hilarious.

And disturbingly sexy.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Bill fights his way out of a hospital full of zombies and back home with nothing but surgical tools WHILE DOPED UP ON DRUGS Yeah, he's gotta be the avatar of some pagan god of Badassery.

Yacht full of bikini-zombies? Facepalmingly hilarious.

Not just bikini zombies, bikini WITCHES

[Pip Boy]

Is anyone else having a lot of trouble with steam right now? Im downloading at like 20 kb/s, and my brother, who is trying to download L4D2 (the whole game, I just bought it for him) keeps having the download pause itself for no reason.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

It's probably just slow-going because of all the people trying to download at the same time. I know I'm the kind of person who leaves the client open while I'm out so I can download things once they pop up.

[Viridis]

Is anyone else having a lot of trouble with steam right now? Im downloading at like 20 kb/s, and my brother, who is trying to download L4D2 (the whole game, I just bought it for him) keeps having the download pause itself for no reason.

Happens whenever a lot of people are downloading. Switch to a different group of servers. Malaysia or some place like that.

[Pip Boy]

Busy servers would justify low speeds, but I can't get it to download at all.

[RickZarber]

Mine did that too; restarting Steam seemed to fix it.

[DFM]

Shut up, Louis! Nobody wants on your stupid island!

[Flarecobra]

...Ok, Louis startled a Witch that was out of the way in my playthrough...

Goddamnit Louis.

And anyone else think that the Finalie is easior in L4D2 then in L4D1?

[Revising Ocelot]

Every single time at the finale I'm always the one to sacrifice myself as the rest are too damned lazy. And the people who play Bill are always brain-dead/AFK/bot-controlled.


Moan whine grumble whine.

[The Wandering God]

Okay, so I think we can all agree that this is the Medic's Bonesaw from TF2.

In fact, the first time a nametag drops for me, I'm going to name my bonesaw, "Bill's Bonesaw".

The comic was excellent, even if I haven't had the chance to play the new content yet.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Okay, so I think we can all agree that this is the Medic's Bonesaw from TF2.

In fact, the first time a nametag drops for me, I'm going to name my bonesaw, "Bill's Bonesaw".

The comic was excellent, even if I haven't had the chance to play the new content yet.

....What.
It's a bonesaw. They don't exactly come in sixty three styles and color choices.

[mauve]

FREE TF2 HATS. (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4441)

As if $6.80 for either L4D title wasn't encouragement enough, Valve is handing out Ellis' Hat and the Frying Pan to any Team Fortress 2 player who either purchases L4D2 by Thursday at 4PM Pacific Standard time or who already owns the game. According to Valve, those who already own the game will start seeing the items in-game within the next few days. The hat and frying pan can be equipped by any class.

So now you really have no excuse not to purchase some fine Valve-made zombie killin' games.

[Viridis]

For some reason, I really like Whitaker right there. Valve blog posts are always entertaining, though.

[RickZarber]

So I have completely failed to beat Sacrifice a couple of times now. Goddamn. Just can not keep the sacrificee alive long enough to die for us.

[Arcanum]

Have you tried saving a pipe bomb for the end? 'Cause that will solve the major problem of them being attacked by zombies and slowing them down enough for one of the three tanks to start murderin'. I've played through it three times and I've beaten all three, though I was playing on Normal with competent teams each time.

[RickZarber]

Tried that. I think the problem was it was just me and a friend; the other two were bots. I probably need a full team to pull it off.

That or switch to Easy mode.

[Flarecobra]

I've waited for the Tanks to start to climb before I made my move, then started shooting, and when it was out, swapped to my melee weapon instead of reloading. It seems to work for me.

[Mannix]

Just read all four parts of the comic. If you haven't yet you need to.

[mauve]

SO The Sacrifice FINALLY finished dowbnloading for my L4D2. (Still have to start downloading for the original.... there's another three days. >.< ). My initial thoughts: Holy moly Valve, thank you for all the new dialogue!! For a free DLC, they really put a lot of work into this. They had to pay for the voice actors to come back, they had to reanimate the original survivors' hands to hold the new weapons (although Zoey's fingers go through the middle of the magnum when she reloads). and I think they spiffed up the characters to make their graphics on-par with L4d2's? I dunno, Francis' tattoos looked more defined to me and everybody looked shiny, so I assume so.

I wasn't able to play through the whole thing yet; I got to the pile o' gravel outside the freighter before I had to quit and get ready for work (Louis' cry of "got some GRAVEL here!" brought to mind TF2's obsession with gravel pits and that made me laugh. Dunno if that's intentional or me just being a Valve freak).

I am so happy they got Bill's voice actor back!! I was kinda worried the actor would refuse again and we'd be stuck with a bunch of reused voice commands for him while everyone else got new dialogue. (Although I kinda thought part of the reason why Valve kills him off in The Passing was because the voice actor didn't want to come back... So.....)

Gameplay is pretty fun so far; I really enjoyed the train yard with the tank in the car. Some of the areas are a bit boring visually, and somewhat easy to get lost in (WAREHOUSES ARGH), but they're made up for by the beautiful and detailed outdoor areas. Again, the trainyard was awesome, as are the random docks and bayside areas.

The dialogue and character interaction retains what I loved about the original survivors, from what little I've heard so far. I've only played as Zoey, so I've heard her bicker with Bill and get pissed off about being the one who has to release the tank from the train car. Francis' incessant pestering about boats makes me happy, although I've yet to hear him hate anything yet.

I have noticed that the special infected and horde musical cues seem quieter in this campaign; the first few special infecteds and at least one swarm took me by surprise before I started hearing the quieter music. Heck, a tank snuck up on me somehow at one point.

It also took me a while to notice the explosive barrels-- I didn'teven realize what they were until I walked past one in the brickyard.

[Arcanum]

Francis is the best when it comes to opening the Tank car. I literally started laughing when it happened. This is how the dialogue went: When I saw the train car while playing as Francis he said something like "Hey Louis, you should open that." or "Hey Louis, you wanna take this?" (I forget exactly what he said). But I ran up anyway and started to open up the door, and Francis whispered "Go for the one with the tie." Best part? The tank actually went for Louis once I opened the door, though I dunno if that was on purpose or an accident. So yeah, awesome stuff.