So I hear that Duke Nukem Forever is shipping in 2011...

[Tev]

Maybe it's lies....maybe it's not. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204844/pigs_fly_duke_nukem_forever_to_ship_in_2011.html?t k=hp_new)

To paraphrase Mark Twain, there are lies, damned lies, and Duke Nukem Forever stories. The game's been vaporware for over a decade. Leaked screens and gameplay videos from so-called alpha versions occasionally emerge then fade in a muddle of half-baked theories, forum mockery, and fan dismay. When the game's now defunct publisher 3D Realms talk about the game these days, few listen.

Until today, that is.

Yesterday 3D Realms president George Broussard teased gamers with a picture of pigs flying. (In a 2006 1UP interview, Broussard joked the game would be out when pigs flew.) Today, he's explaining what that means. Or at least the game's new developer is.

At PAX Prime 2010, Gearbox (Brothers in Arms, Borderlands) president Randy Pitchford confirmed rumors that his studio has assumed responsibility for the practically mothballed shooter. What's more, he announced it'll be playable--that's right, playable--on the show floor.

"People seem to be enjoying the game a lot," reads a dispatch from 2K Games' Twitter feed. "How many [PAX] folks thought they'd leave Seattle having played [Duke Nukem Forever]?"

The game, due in 2011, will be available simultaneously for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Microsoft Windows.

So they got some new guys who actually have it in them to maybe make this happen. The part about it being playable on the showroom floor is nice.

Anyway.....taking bets on what we may actually get in 2011?

[Melfice]

Maybe it's lies....maybe it's not. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/204844/pigs_fly_duke_nukem_forever_to_ship_in_2011.html?t k=hp_new)



So they got some new guys who actually have it in them to maybe make this happen. The part about it being playable on the showroom floor is nice.

Anyway.....taking bets on what we may actually get in 2011?

It'll probably be a standard Duke Nukem.
If they're smart, they'll Borderlands it up a bit. The Duke Nukem series could most likely benefit from it.

Regardless of what they do with it, I think the final game will be very mediocre, but sell fairly well due to nostalgia and a general WTF! reaction.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Ohh no, I'm not falling for this one again. Too many times this has been said, I just don't believe it any more, not matter how insistent and "For realz!" they may be. I won't believe it until I see and actual copy on the shelf of a shop.

[Tev]

Actually, part of me is actually wondering....do you think they will honor those decade old per-order certificates?

[Seil]

Why Tev, do you still have yours?

I think you could sell them as collectors items now, if you're in the right crowd.

[mudah.swf]

Apparently their stream at PAX was disasterous. Not streaming the trailer, getting a horrible cameraman to film everything and low quality footage to top it off.

[Toastburner B]

Regardless of what they do with it, I think the final game will be very mediocre, but sell fairly well due to nostalgia and a general WTF! reaction.

This. At other websites I've seen other people saying they are going to buy it, despite the fact that it is probably going to suck, just because it is part of gaming history. I disagree...DNF's great place in history is that it was the great running gag of gaming. If it does come out, there goes all it's mystique; probably replaced with a bad-to-mediocre game.

Well, either that or ten years from now Gearbox will be going out of business and everyone will still be wondering if DNF will ever be released.

[BitVyper]

Basically, if it comes out and it's actually good, then don't worry, because you are in Elysium, and you're already dead.

[Kim]

I hate what I've heard about it from people who played it at PAX. It is everything wrong with gaming today.

[Funka Genocide]

but... Duke Nukem was never good.

I don't get this at all.

[Fusionman]

IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!

[Yrcrazypa]

Duke Nukem 3d was a good game, and the platformers were pretty good too! So I don't know what you are talking about.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I can foresee Duke Nukem Forever completely missing the point of Duke Nukem.
Giving it a serious story, probably. Or some bullshit like that.
Or maybe they'll try to make Duke say more than one-liners.
If they do that Duke Nukem Forever will ruin Duke Nukem forever.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I hate what I've heard about it from people who played it at PAX. It is everything wrong with gaming today.

Fun?

[Yrcrazypa]

I wouldn't call Call of Duty: Electric Boogaloo 'fun.' More like, same old game that everyone played last year. Innovation? What's that?

[bluestarultor]

I can foresee Duke Nukem Forever completely missing the point of Duke Nukem.
Giving it a serious story, probably. Or some bullshit like that.
Or maybe they'll try to make Duke say more than one-liners.
If they do that Duke Nukem Forever will ruin Duke Nukem forever.

That's a painful pun. x_x


To be honest, it'll probably be exactly like a mish-mash of everything that's been out since the last engine change if they don't cut a ton. But then the new team has "key members" of the old team, which probably means close to all 37 of them. Seriously. (http://www.horrorstyle.com/game/duke-nukem-forever/index.php?site=about&article=the-mystery-of-duke-nukem-forever-09-05-2009)

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I wouldn't call Call of Duty: Electric Boogaloo 'fun.' More like, same old game that everyone played last year. Innovation? What's that?

They couldn't innovate a goddamn thing and I wouldn't care. As long as it's fun to play.
It doesn't have to be OH SO INCREDIBLE AND NEW AND SHINY. Just fun.

It is after all...A game.
Not the fuckin' roof of the Sistine Chapel.

[Doc ock rokc]

looking at the game play It's not different but it isn't generic ether. Its like quake and its clones all the same weapons just different skins however every weapon looks fun to use... so Im betting it will be fine. but not a masterpiece.

[Kim]

Fun?

No. Offensive and immature.

[bluestarultor]

No. Offensive and immature.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem familiar with the series. :3:

[Toastburner B]

So, yeah, the demo apparently starts with a urinal and "hold RT to piss."

Obviously, the 12+ year wait was worth it.

[Marc v4.0]

No. Offensive and immature.

Offensive? Immature!? Duke Nukem!? OH GOD WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!?

No really, I'm with Blues, you don't seem to be familiar with the series at all.

It was Offensive and Immature before it was cool and then not cool, if they change that then what was the point of finishing the damn game?

[Kim]

I'm sorry, but you don't seem familiar with the series. :3:

Yes, Blues. I am aware that the game is designed to be the male machismo masturbation fodder for frat boys so mind-numbingly stupid and so constantly drunk that they shouldn't be able to see the screen. This is a fact I know. That that is the point does not make it okay, nor does it make it funny. I am not immature enough to laugh at making Duke pee into a toilet. I am not whatever-the-fuck enough to derive enjoyment from "Hur hur Duke got a blowjob" or "durpa durrr lookat dem strippers titties." These are facts I know. This is one of the reasons I wasn't exactly upset when this game was never happening. Plus, if I wanted to listen to some jackass spout cheesy Evil Dead lines, I'd watch goddamn Evil Dead.

what was the point of finishing the damn game?

There is no point to finishing the game. There was never any point.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

There was a rant here. It's gone now.

That's a painful pun. x_x
Shaddup it was great. >:(

[Marc v4.0]

Yes, Blues. I am aware that the game is designed to be the male machismo masturbation fodder for frat boys so mind-numbingly stupid and so constantly drunk that they shouldn't be able to see the screen. This is a fact I know. That that is the point does not make it okay, nor does it make it funny. I am not immature enough to laugh at making Duke pee into a toilet. I am not whatever-the-fuck enough to derive enjoyment from "Hur hur Duke got a blowjob" or "durpa durrr lookat dem strippers titties." These are facts I know. This is one of the reasons I wasn't exactly upset when this game was never happening. Plus, if I wanted to listen to some jackass spout cheesy Evil Dead lines, I'd watch goddamn Evil Dead.



There is no point to finishing the game. There was never any point.

Oooooook then...wow...

[Kim]

You're the ones who so self-assuredly said that me not liking what I heard about DNF must just mean I don't know the series. I know what the series is, and what it is is everything wrong with gamer culture condensed and glorified in game form. It's the sort of juvenile bullshit I had hoped died out with the nineties.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

No. Offensive and immature.

I disagree with great intensity. The problem with the game industry is sameness. If Duke offers some unique entertainment in a field of games that are all the exact damn same? More power to him.

Yes, Blues. I am aware that the game is designed to be the male machismo masturbation fodder for frat boys so mind-numbingly stupid and so constantly drunk that they shouldn't be able to see the screen. This is a fact I know.
I haven't had a drink in my entire life, but I can see the entertainment value in being off the wall insane for a game.

That that is the point does not make it okay, nor does it make it funny. I am not immature enough to laugh at making Duke pee into a toilet. I am not whatever-the-fuck enough to derive enjoyment from "Hur hur Duke got a blowjob" or "durpa durrr lookat dem strippers titties."


Maybe rather than thinking of yourself as far too mature and grown up as to laugh at things like this, you're just taking yourself way way way way too seriously.
I mean, really. You're going off about how it's completely immature to even consider these things funny, but then you cap off the statement with "Durpa durr" hyperbole about people you disagree with?
Fan-fucking-tastic.

These are facts I know.

These are your opinions.

This is one of the reasons I wasn't exactly upset when this game was never happening. Plus, if I wanted to listen to some jackass spout cheesy Evil Dead lines, I'd watch goddamn Evil Dead.


Then go watch Evil Dead and keep on thinking you're a far more sophisticated person for it.


You're the ones who so self-assuredly said that me not liking what I heard about DNF must just mean I don't know the series. I know what the series is, and what it is is everything wrong with gamer culture condensed and glorified in game form. It's the sort of juvenile bullshit I had hoped died out with the nineties.

I think specifically they're trying to tell you you don't get the series rather than you just plain don't know about it.
There's nothing wrong with not getting it, but there's also pretty much no reason to go out bashing everyone that likes something just because you don't.

[Jagos]

On that note, Conker's Bad Fur Day.

That is all.

[bluestarultor]

You're the ones who so self-assuredly said that me not liking what I heard about DNF must just mean I don't know the series. I know what the series is, and what it is is everything wrong with gamer culture condensed and glorified in game form. It's the sort of juvenile bullshit I had hoped died out with the nineties.

Grth pretty much covered it, but just to add one more thing, DNF is a 90s game. It's been in development for a decade. Just because it's coming out now doesn't mean it's not a throwback to when it was first started because that specifically IS what Duke Nukem is. While the rest of the genre moved to uber-serious, hyper-masculine space marines of proportions that indicate gene splicing with blue whales and a false sense of maturity in that "grim = mature," Duke Nukem is the not-serious, hyper-masculine Earth marine of proportions that just indicate he's on 'roids and no pretense of maturity at all that they're all based on.

We're talking about a series of shooters that got turned into a pinball game titled after one of the more famous one-liners. Duke Nukem never was intended to be serious as much as it was to ape those stereotypes in a mindless bout of reveling in the shallowness of it all. Complaining that it's juvenile and somehow beneath us in our enlightened times misses the point. It could be seen as aping the rest of the genre nearly as much now as when it was first conceived, and what isn't covered is old enough to be new again.

In short, chill. Duke Nukem is no more harmful to our society than any other shooter on the market. It's a parody. One that's ready to make a genre that's been taking itself too seriously in the decade lull examine itself all over again, like the series was intended from the start.

[Melfice]

The sad part is... if there's one reason the game is going to fail in the reviews (beyond it probably being pretty bad), it's that the whole genre moved to hypergritty, hyperviolent hyperrealism.

The reviewers will be tearing into the game for... well...
So, yeah, the demo apparently starts with a urinal and "hold RT to piss."
That.

So, even IF the game turns out awesome for gameplay, reviewers will almost assuredly dock 10 or 20 points for being not-Modern Warfare 2 or not-Halo in terms of taking stuff seriously and being dark.

And as much as I'm not at all interested in Duke Nukem Forever, it makes me want to run out and get the game to prove the reviewers wrong.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I can see this game being compared with Bulletstorm when they get closer to release day, except Bulletstorm is going to be much, much better. I don't agree that it will get docked points just becuase it's not serious and gritty though Melfice. Just because most games in the genre are that doesn't mean they all must be, and anything different should be avoided.

If it's going to lose points on anything it'll be gameplay, graphics or the humour just being unfunny.

[Melfice]

Maybe. But I wouldn't underestimate the gaming press, Hawk.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Well, depends on where you get your reviews from I suppose. If they're down-scoring a game for not being something that they think it should, instead of going by what it actually is, then they're doing it wrong and should be ignored anyway.

[Kim]

I can see this game being compared with Bulletstorm when they get closer to release day, except Bulletstorm is going to be much, much better.

Pretty much this. Plus, I really don't consider DNF parody since the traits people tell me are parody are really no different from what it's supposedly parodying. It's not like Gears of War was devoid of space marines snapping cheesy lines in grabs for humor, after all. Saying something is funny because it's parody is getting things completely backwards. I do not find the humor in DNF funny. I am irritated by the humor because it represents and glorifies traits in other modern games that I actively dislike and would like to see go away. I do not think it sounds unique or different. I have played unique and different games. Bad one-liners and topless women do not a unique/different game make. This will especially be the case when for the next few years we end up with games trying to ape Duke Nukem Forever and being just as unbearable as this is looking to be.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Pretty much this. Plus, I really don't consider DNF parody since the traits people tell me are parody are really no different from what it's supposedly parodying. It's not like Gears of War was devoid of space marines snapping cheesy lines in grabs for humor, after all. Saying something is funny because it's parody is getting things completely backwards. I do not find the humor in DNF funny. I am irritated by the humor because it represents and glorifies traits in other modern games that I actively dislike and would like to see go away. I do not think it sounds unique or different. I have played unique and different games. Bad one-liners and topless women do not a unique/different game make. This will especially be the case when for the next few years we end up with games trying to ape Duke Nukem Forever and being just as unbearable as this is looking to be.


That is exactly what is going to happen.
I really hope you enjoy it.

[Melfice]

Guys?
Far be it for me to tell you what you should, or shouldn't do, but this will only end in tears. (warnings)

So... uh, let's all sit around this camp-fire here and have a good sing-along?
Anybody got a guitar?

Koom-ba-yah my lord, koom-ba-yah!

[Aerozord]

Pretty much this. Plus, I really don't consider DNF parody since the traits people tell me are parody are really no different from what it's supposedly parodying. It's not like Gears of War was devoid of space marines snapping cheesy lines in grabs for humor, after all. Saying something is funny because it's parody is getting things completely backwards. I do not find the humor in DNF funny. I am irritated by the humor because it represents and glorifies traits in other modern games that I actively dislike and would like to see go away. I do not think it sounds unique or different. I have played unique and different games. Bad one-liners and topless women do not a unique/different game make. This will especially be the case when for the next few years we end up with games trying to ape Duke Nukem Forever and being just as unbearable as this is looking to be.

not saying its to your taste, or that you aren't entitled to your opinion, but what made the game fun was how over the top it was. Like ripping off an enemies head and punting it for a field goal, or how all the med-packs were steriods. It is parody for taking the genre of ultra-machoism to its logical extreme.

On a side not the reason why you get one-liners in FPS is because of Duke Nukem. Atleast I dont recall them ever being prevalent until afterwards.