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bluestarultor
09-03-2010, 10:48 PM
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/546057
I suppose this might not need its own thread, but I just finished it. It's described by some as being like Portal, but it's really nothing like Portal other than that you someone constantly lying to you. It gets VERY tricky in the end. I ended up looking up a solution to the final puzzle: Throw a spike while jumping forward to desynchronize your twin from you and make him jump in the pit.
It's a short game, but it's clever. Definitely worth a try.
Julford Hajime
09-04-2010, 04:30 AM
Played this last night when some webcomic plugged it on their front page. It was pretty entertaining, and had a couple clever moments. That ending puzzle can go fuck itself though, because it's SOOOOO easy to screw it up.
Loyal
09-04-2010, 09:56 AM
It was okay. I've seen better mind-screw games out there. In spite of all the lying it was oddly consistent.
PyrosNine
09-04-2010, 11:18 AM
I beat it by accident. I looked myself in the eye, swallowed any doubt and negative feeling, and just jumped for it. Without throwing anything.
Oooh yeah.
rawredy
09-05-2010, 08:26 PM
I played it yesterday on Kongregate. It was pretty interesting, and I got both endings. Because there's apparently two according to Kongregate? Don't know about Newgrounds.
bluestarultor
09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
I played it yesterday on Kongregate. It was pretty interesting, and I got both endings. Because there's apparently two according to Kongregate? Don't know about Newgrounds.
Yes. There's a "bad ending," but the game just plops you back in an infinite loop until you get the good ending.
Magus
09-06-2010, 12:36 AM
This game was actually pretty easy since all you had to do was the opposite of what the guy says...no matter what. Nice intuitive puzzler overall.
Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 03:01 AM
This game was actually pretty easy since all you had to do was the opposite of what the guy says...no matter what.
Except for when you don't.
bluestarultor
09-06-2010, 11:12 AM
Thinking in opposites is its own challenge, anyway. There's more than one way things can be opposite and figuring out which way is half the fun.
Amake
09-06-2010, 12:34 PM
I'm rather proud I completed the game without any help. And yeah it's fun. My favorite/hatiest part is when the level itself lies to you, and the actual platforms you have to jump have no relation to what you see.
The game really takes the concept of lying to a new level I think.
Pip Boy
09-06-2010, 01:13 PM
I seem to be caught in that infinite loop blue was talking about. The only hint is that there must be another way out, which, if this game is consistent, means that there isn't. I thought maybe it was some kind of allusion to trying to use the entrance to leave, but that got me nowhere. I know its going to be something annoying and stupid when I find out what it is.
Jagos
09-06-2010, 01:26 PM
It was when I did it.
Loyal
09-06-2010, 01:29 PM
My favorite/hatiest part is when the level itself lies to you, and the actual platforms you have to jump have no relation to what you see.If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, the relation is that the platforms you see is the mirror image of what actually is.
Amake
09-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Ooh I did not see that.
About that loop level, I got lucky and beat it on the first try. Cause I had to go to the bathroom.
Magus
09-06-2010, 08:24 PM
Except for when you don't.
Well, there are a few levels where he doesn't say anything either way, sometimes he tells some half-truths, as well, but basically it's true but with enough misleading bits to screw you over. Hell, the final battle is entirely based on looking at all the parts of his statement and determining they are a lie, not just doing the opposite of what he says (continuing), but discerning that "we'll both be destroyed" is just as untrue as well.
Of course, just to really screw with you, there is at least one statement that is completely true, an attempt to win you over to his side.
I'm not saying there isn't any finesse to the puzzles at all, especially those where he says nothing and we find we do have to use things we'd otherwise avoid sometimes (such as buttons), discovering that in some contexts what is normally bad is good (pitfalls, buttons), but that what is normally good is bad (switches, but not always), so it becomes a tricky mindscrew that first reverses normal associations of what is good in games, but then also throws in the wrench that even after this reversal, what is good is bad is sometimes good again.
But overall you just do the opposite of what he says, opposing our normal instinct to trust in-game help. Obviously there are exceptions but the basic idea of the whole thing is that what we normally accept as help in games is actually out to kill us, and we have to continually work to ignore its advice. I actually found it difficult at times to not do what he says, which I think comments on how use we are to in-game tutorials and instructions being the word of God.
Hey, Megaman, for the "other way out" if you want a hint that isn't a total spoiler read this spoiler: sometimes Tutorial Man isn't a total liar, he wants your trust so he tells the truth in order to make the rest of his lies seem more appealing, like a real person would..
If you're still stuck, here's another spoilier spoiler: patience is a virtue.
Here's the spoiliest spoiler of all: "How to get into Master Blargh's dungeon in Earthbound."
If you're still stuck after all that just look the solution up online I guess?
Pip Boy
09-06-2010, 09:25 PM
Yeah, I figured it out a few hours ago when I was standing next to the exit and started watching TV, then looked back to see that the light pillar was gone. I have to say the ending was rather unfulfilling. It was very abrupt and didn't feel very rewarding. Also, I haven't found any solution to the mirror image other than to desynchronize them with a spike.
Loyal
09-06-2010, 10:00 PM
That is the solution.
PyrosNine
09-07-2010, 06:44 AM
Sorta like beating Shadow link by beating him with hammer!
Pip Boy
09-07-2010, 11:48 AM
Sorta like beating Shadow link by beating him with a fuckton of Din's Fire and mana potions!
Fix'd.
Fifthfiend
09-07-2010, 05:10 PM
The only hint is that there must be another way out, which, if this game is consistent, means that there isn't.
Read the name of the level.
Well, there are a few levels where he doesn't say anything either way, sometimes he tells some half-truths, as well
There is one point at which he tells the unarguable truth.
It's the place Megaman was stuck.
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