Damn you Fallout 3

[Aldurin]

Flat out, the ending sucked. The control room filled with "a lethal amount of radiation" and they only allow the two dumber solutions to be used. I mean seriously, with cyborg, tesla armor and a rad-x I was only taking 6 rads a second, definitely enough time to get out of the control room before I even get minor rad sickness.

And then I have Fawkes standing right behind me who had no problem getting the GECK from rad-filled hallways. Why not send him in to input the code and then leave? It's stupider than stupid could be.

Come on, there are always more than two ways to solve a problem.

[TDK]

Yeah! I really wish they would release a DLC that fixes it or something!

[Aerozord]

the broken steel DLC fixes this

[Aldurin]

the broken steel DLC fixes this

really? I should probably get the DLC's for it then.

EDIT: It makes you wonder how much angry mail they got for having the ending like that originally.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

the broken steel DLC fixes this

Quiet you! It's funnier when there's sarcasm!

EDIT; Damnit, now he knows for fucks sake.

[Aerozord]

should really get them anyways, they are awesome. That one in particular. Why you ask? More Liberty Prime

[Aldurin]

More Liberty Prime

Oh man I got a total shitload of enclave armor just from scavenging the chunks of flesh left in the wake of that robot. That sounds so much more awesome.

[Pip Boy]

The correct way to play this game is to import a warhammer 40k power armor mod and run into every battle you find with a ripper screaming "FOR THE EMPEROR!"

[EVILNess]

The correct way to play this game is to import a warhammer 40k power armor mod and run into every battle you find with a ripper screaming "FOR THE EMPEROR!"

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd508/treble0096/brofist.jpg

[Pip Boy]

You get bonus points if you can find one that replaces the common raiders with either Chaos or Orcs.

[Aldurin]

You get bonus points if you can find one that replaces the common raiders with either Chaos or Orcs.

But what Chaos are you talking about? I can only think of Chaos Zero at the moment. That would be kinda cool though, but it would be a better fit for replacing the mirelurks.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

But what Chaos are you talking about? I can only think of Chaos Zero at the moment. That would be kinda cool though, but it would be a better fit for replacing the mirelurks.

Mirelurks are Slugga Boys, Raiders are Khorne Berzerkers, Enclave are Chaos Space Marines, Deathclaws are Bloodthirsters.

[Pip Boy]

The raiders could just be those guys that run around wildly screaming "WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOM!"

EDIT: On a related note, fallout: New Vegas is released in 11 days.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

YOUR LEADER HAS ABANDONED YOU, A FALSE GOD ON A PUPPET THRONE.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

[greed]

Thirteen days for me damnit. And my local store still doesn't have the CE available so looks like I ain't getting it. Fucking hell.

But yeah so psyched about new Vegas, Obsidian should fix all the problems Fallout 3 had. Well all the ones caused by Bethesda's horrible writing anyway.

[Lost in Time]

I luckily preordered the CE from Amazon.com before they pulled it, so hopefully I still get it. And hopefully the new companion wheel fixes a lot of things, so I can actually give a damn about my companions.

[DFM]

Thirteen days for me damnit. And my local store still doesn't have the CE available so looks like I ain't getting it. Fucking hell.

But yeah so psyched about new Vegas, Obsidian should fix all the problems Fallout 3 had. Well all the ones caused by Bethesda's horrible writing anyway.

And with an established engine and publishers who apparently aren't asstarded it'll be a whole game! Not literally three quarters of a game LIKE SOME OTHER GAMES YOU HAVE MADE I COULD MENTION, OBSIDIAN.


(It's KOTOR II)

[Wigmund]

I am terribly saddened by the impending release of Fallout New Vegas as my PS3 is being sent in for repairs and I most likely won't have it back for the rest of the month :crying:

[Pip Boy]

If you have a PC that can handle it, then that is always the best version to choose, as it is the one that allow mods and leads to your reavers being replaced by Necrons.

[Aerozord]

If you have a PC that can handle it, then that is always the best version to choose, as it is the one that allow mods and leads to your reavers being replaced by Necrons.

or more importantly a.... better, solution to the little lamplight quest

[Marc v4.0]

I have to get the console version first or I will literally never play the game except to test mods.

[Pip Boy]

or more importantly a.... better, solution to the little lamplight quest

I understand how some people might freak out if the devs let you kill children, but that mostly only applies in games where the children don't carry around guns and try to kill you, and permanently bar your progress through a quest with a 6 foot wall you should be able to climb over unless you perform some mundane task for them. Blaaaaaarg.

[DFM]

or more importantly a.... better, solution to the little lamplight quest

The view from the handy cam is frantic and plagued with static, but it shows the rock walls of the cavern glistening in the damp, dark underground.The only illumination comes from the glowing eyes of the trooper helmets and the arching strands of Christmas lights hanging across the cave walls. The camera steadies in front of a makeshift barricade, a large cardboard sign nailed across it.

"MUNGOS KEEP OUT" is scrawled in red paint, barely legible under the strands of light. An Enclave soldier in Hellfire armor approaches the sign, appearing to read it once. He turns to the camera, igniting the pulse burners on the heavy Incinerator he carries. For an instant, the cavern is as bright as day, the interior a clutter of ramshackle pre-war shanties and a fleeing mob of equally ramshackle children.

"I'm here to kill all sons of bitches!" The trooper shouts, voice crackling and metallic beneath the demonic power helmet. He turns, kicking down the barricade with a single stroke. "That's my warning sign!" His weapon lobs balls of flame deep into the cavern, exploding somewhere out of view. As he walks forward, a large shadow slips past him after the fleeing children, emitting a dragon-like roar from underneath the flashing control collar. The video feed goes to static, replaced by the Enclave logo in stoic black and white.

[Aerozord]

I understand how some people might freak out if the devs let you kill children, but that mostly only applies in games where the children don't carry around guns and try to kill you, and permanently bar your progress through a quest with a 6 foot wall you should be able to climb over unless you perform some mundane task for them. Blaaaaaarg.

yea, the way I put it to people "I dont want to kill kids, these aren't kids. They are immortal, can completely control your actions to the point you are at their whim, and are actually rather powerful. They are gods"

[Pip Boy]

They're also cannibals. Just thought I should throw that out there.

EDIT: Im not sure if they know they're cannibals, but they definitely eat people, whether they know it or not.

[Krylo]

I never had a problem with them.

I guess this is because I'm not a horrible person whom, when presented with what basically amounts to a bunch of abused children who are constantly attacked by slavers that act out a little, has murder as a first response as opposed to say... putting up with a little shit because, hey, kids are gonna be kids.

I wonder if you guys are gonna end up shooting your children when they come home from school some day and call you a cocksucker because they just learned a new word or something.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Well, playing as a character who killed every npc in every town he visited in that game, the inability to kill the most annoying characters was at least a little dissapointing, and left my murderous spree feeling somewhat lacking.

I wanted to empty the whole goddamn wasteland, and I just couldn't.

[Nikose Tyris]

Well, playing as a character who killed every npc in every town he visited in that game, the inability to kill the most annoying characters was at least a little dissapointing, and left my murderous spree feeling somewhat lacking.

I wanted to empty the whole goddamn wasteland, and I just couldn't.

I am not the death you deserve. I am the death that you have eluded. I am the fulfillment of time.

[Aerozord]

its the suspension of disbelief that bothers me and many others. Except the playthrough where I was a murderous psycho I wouldn't have killed them if it was allowed. I just dont like that I am denied the option. Even plot critical NPCs can atleast be shot. In all the other fallout games you could.

[Aldurin]

Kinda annoying how the only kids you can kill are the two in Megaton (actually you don't even know if they were there at the explosion, given that Moira survives).

I gotta say I'm pretty pissed at those strategy guides online that say that the lawbringer perk is pointless, especially since the raiders are freakin' everywhere and they definitely qualify for being part of the process.

Since I'm almost at level 20 on my good guy I'm now starting to think about how I can milk all of the quest rewards and xp by systematically killing everything. But the only thing that worries me is wiping out the Brotherhood, given their armor and huge weapons (though I'll probably just missile them if I have to).

[BitVyper]

I never had a problem with them.

I guess this is because I'm not a horrible person whom, when presented with what basically amounts to a bunch of abused children who are constantly attacked by slavers that act out a little, has murder as a first response as opposed to say... putting up with a little shit because, hey, kids are gonna be kids.

I wonder if you guys are gonna end up shooting your children when they come home from school some day and call you a cocksucker because they just learned a new word or something.

Having the choice at all is what makes making the right one worthwhile. Seriously, I'm practically a paladin when I play Fallout 3, but I wouldn't have nearly as much fun being that way if it weren't for the fact that I COULD be shooting everyone in the face, and eating their corpses while fucking their moms and drinking purified water by the gallon in front of a man dying of thirst.

The Little Lamplight kids are annoying because I don't have those choices. I don't really feel anything at all for that section of the game except for some vague annoyance, and it could be very different if the choices were there. Well okay, to be fair, I generally don't have much of a problem to be annoyed with there because I've already saved the slaves, but still, it makes the place a bit unremarkable for me, and makes the kids not really feel all that hardshipped.

Some improvement on the not-killing-them options would be nice too. As it is, I don't really recall any way to get through Little Lamplight that doesn't involve making nice. I could be missing some options though, since I always go save all the slaves before I go there anyway. Some intimidation options for getting through would be nice. You could even just have the kids automatically staying the fuck away from you if you pull that, maybe a couple jeering from afar. Make that segment harder for jerkasses.

But yeah, it is a relatively small segment of the game, and the kids aren't really THAT bad if you haven't been a huge jerkass everywhere else. I don't think it's fair to pull the "horrible person" card on people who want the murder options available though. I'm sure we've all played Grand Theft Auto, or been a amoral jerkass to NPCs in a D&D game.

[Aldurin]

and drinking purified water by the gallon in front of a man dying of thirst.

Dude, I just pop him for negative karma. One VATS shot with the shotgun and that's it.

Oh, and the choices aren't always good and evil. It's sometimes good, evil and possibly more evil. You can help the good guys, help the bad guys, just kill everyone and take everything they own, help the good guys and kill everyone to stay neutral, or help the bad guys and then kill everyone for extra negative karma and xp.

Attitudes like that are the main thing that should be keeping us from nuking each other.

[Aerozord]

personally I'd rather have there just not be kids in the game, then to have special rules apply to them. Atleast that way suspension of disbelief isn't constantly slapping you in the face

[BloodyMage]

Some improvement on the not-killing-them options would be nice too. As it is, I don't really recall any way to get through Little Lamplight that doesn't involve making nice. I could be missing some options though, since I always go save all the slaves before I go there anyway. Some intimidation options for getting through would be nice. You could even just have the kids automatically staying the fuck away from you if you pull that, maybe a couple jeering from afar. Make that segment harder for jerkasses.

You can be nice to the kids, then go enslave the youngest, cutest one. That's probably fair retribution for being forced to endure them.

[CABAL49]

I always speech check Little Lamplight. I rescue the kids later, but that is because I am a nice guy.

[Aerozord]

You can be nice to the kids, then go enslave the youngest, cutest one. That's probably fair retribution for being forced to endure them.

even on my evil sociopath play through I couldn't bring myself to do it. I mean she was the only one that wasn't a jerk to you

[Pip Boy]

I always speech check Little Lamplight. I rescue the kids later, but that is because I am a nice guy.

Thats true. The one reprieve from conforming to all their stupid sidequest crap was to Savescum over and over until you won that sometimes like 5% speech check.