Marvel vs Capcom 3, Again.

[mudah.swf]

Some of you may or may not have been paying some form of attention to Marvel Vs Capcom 3, the long awaited sequel to one of the most popular fighting games of all time, among both "casual" and "hardcore" sets. For those that haven't been doing so since the last thread, a wealth of new stuff has come out about this game now. For a start, here's the brand new list of dudes who are in this game:

Capcom!
Chris Redfield
RE 5 Jill (DLC)
Arthur
Ryu
Chun-Li
Wesker
Viewtiful Joe
Zero
Tron Bonne
Dante
Morrigan
Felicia
Nathan Spencer (from the Bionic Commando remake thingy)
Trish
Amaterasu

Marvel!
Shuma-Gorath (DLC)
X-23
Hulk
She-Hulk
Wolverine
Dr. Doom
Super Skrull
Iron Man
Deadpool
Thor
Magneto
MODOK
Spider-Man
Dormammu
Captain America
Storm (Not seen yet but Seth Killian let her inclusion slip in an interview)

Also, have a list of current rumoured dudes:
Akuma
C. Viper
Taskmaster

Will we have to unlock these dudes? Probably, if Capcom Japan get their way. Disappointing for me but I know that some of you here love unlocking characters. And the character "clones"? They all play differently from looking at the avaliable video footage, so no need to get too worried.

Anyway, let me give you all a quick refresher on how this actually plays. You pick a team of 3 video game dudes and fight another team of 3. You've got easy air combos, assists, big flashy super moves, lots of movement options and a one-time power-up at your disposal, so use these as best as you can to take out the other guy's team. MVC 3's unique gimmick is the Exchange button, which acts as a launcher and a way to extend air combos. Using this button+a direction in the middle of an air combo tags out to a partner to continue the combo, but if the opponent presses the same combination as you they can stop that combo in its tracks.

As for modes, you've got the standard collection of fighting game modes with some kind of story mode, mostly thanks to Marvel. There's an SF4-esque challenge mode and a "licence card" thingy which allows you to see roughly what your opponent in an online match will play like. http://www.capcom-europe.com/blog/2010/11/mvc3-license-card-hyper-explosion/

And a release date? 2/15/11 apparently.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvsc3 is the current official website, with most of the current characters featured on it as well as their trailers.

[Jagos]

I can't stand unlocking for one reason. It's done so arbitrarily that there's truly no point. Play for X hours to get Gamebreaker guy 1. Throw two air fireballs to get Clone girl costume 3.

Otherwise, the game would be good because it has Deadpool. You can't go wrong with him.

[Nikose Tyris]

I don't see MegamanX on your list.

I realize it's not confirmed but he's in there. We all know it.

[POS Industries]

I don't see MegamanX on your list.

I realize it's not confirmed but he's in there. We all know it.
Actually, we specifically know that he's not. Zero is the MMX representative.

We do know that Megaman Classic will probably be in, though.

[mudah.swf]

Uh yeah, I think Capcom explicitly deconfirmed a few characters, including X and Ghost Rider, for one, along with most of the Darkstalkers cast and Sengoku Basara, off of the top of my head.


I can't stand unlocking for one reason. It's done so arbitrarily that there's truly no point. Play for X hours to get Gamebreaker guy 1. Throw two air fireballs to get Clone girl costume 3.

Otherwise, the game would be good because it has Deadpool. You can't go wrong with him.

It was worse in the Dreamcast MVC2, since you had to buy characters with a points system, points being earned as you played the game. In the Japanese version, you had to go to the arcade and play online to get a few characters, I believe.

[DarkDrgon]

Uh yeah, I think Capcom explicitly deconfirmed a few characters, including X and Ghost Rider, for one, along with most of the Darkstalkers cast and Sengoku Basara, off of the top of my head.

no Daredevil made me sad

[Demonic_Geomancer]

Was Green Goblin deconfirmed? And do you think we'll have some DLC? I hope so because I want my gobby and my Breath of Fire characters in the game.

[mudah.swf]

We're having DLC, if you read the OP you'll see two DLC characters there.

[Demonic_Geomancer]

Ah right. Silly me. Must not skim....

[DarkDrgon]

Was Green Goblin deconfirmed? And do you think we'll have some DLC? I hope so because I want my gobby and my Breath of Fire characters in the game.

heh. heheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

ah, thanks, I needed that. As much as I'd love to see it, since I'm a huge BoF fanboy, there is no way it would ever make its way in to a big Vs. game. not popular enough :(

[Jagos]

Yeah... We gotta settle for Strider Hiryu. Or Hayato from Star Gladiators, a game that NEVER CAME STATESIDE OFFICIALLY!

No, if we had Ryu turning into a gold dragon it wouldn't be fair. He'd just pwn too much.

[DarkDrgon]

Ryu would be unrealstic because there already is one Ryu in the game. and as I've mentioned before:
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af248/blueshirtsfanatic2136/ryuhighlander.png

However, I would not mind seeing, say, any of the Ninas. or Katt. hell, I'd settle for Peco.

[EVILNess]

I will purchase this game for one 10 minute span of awesome, when I have Deadpool uppercut Ryu while yelling SHORYUKEN!

[Jagos]

They should put Kitty Pride in there just for that. Special back story and everything.

I'd buy an Xbox just for that.

[mudah.swf]

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/11/30/niitsuma_on_mvc3/

Interview with the producer about various aspects of MVC3 now. Here's the important stuff:

No 6 player online because the Capcom (?) team couldn't get it working correctly.

They're having trouble with online functionality in general since they're obviously not doing the sensible thing of using GGPO.

May possibly be 10 more characters to announce, DLC or not.

All characters have their own music tracks.

PS Strider is officially deconfirmed :(

[Squall Leonhart]

[...] PS Strider is officially deconfirmed :(Nowhere on that link does it say anything about Strider. How did you come to that conclusion?

[mudah.swf]

Ahem, my bad. here you go. (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/nov/30/strider-hiryu-disconfirmed-marvel-vs-capcom-3/)

[Squall Leonhart]

I haven't seen anyone post this so, in case it's been missed, Storm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UnWzO_vHRA) and Crimson Viper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYtreqneZg) have joined the cast of Marvel vs Capcom 3.Additionally, we have two new gameplay videos to accompany this revelation.

Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjEUtLRxuEE)
Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j67wuDh5erE)

[Drownball-Champ]

Ryu would be unrealstic because there already is one Ryu in the game.

However, I would not mind seeing, say, any of the Ninas. or Katt. hell, I'd settle for Peco.

I'd prefer having BoF Ryu in over SF Ryu. It would never happen, but I can dream.

[Demonic_Geomancer]

I know that no BOF characters are going ot make it in.

It's so sad. I just love the series so much and the rumors about remakes announced at E3 turned out to be a lie I believe.

Granted, I figured that the thing was a lie, but still...

[Bells]

I loves me some BoF Ryu (specially BoF 3, but wouldn't mind BoF 4) but know this my young ones... the first BoF character that Deserves to be in a Big VS game is BoF 3 Momo.

CAPCOM!! MARVEL!! GIMME MO MOMO!

[DarkDrgon]

I would not mind Momo at all. Although, from 3 I'd rather see Rei or Garr.

All time favorite choice tho, from the entire saga, would be Rand.

[Jagos]

I would not mind Momo at all. Although, from 3 I'd rather see Rei or Garr.

All time favorite choice tho, from the entire saga, would be Rand.

A -fuckin' -men. Him versus the Juggernaut? No contest.

[mudah.swf]

There have been a LOT of rumours flying around this game lately. Most of them were from hoax Twitter accounts, buuuut one account in particular got banned from Twitter and Shoryuken, so there may be something behind their particular rumours, especially since Shoryuken tends to ban people leaking accurate information.

Since most of you probably don't like massive walls of texts, click The only remaining stage is Metro City. There are 8 altogether (in addition to the final boss' stage). #mvc3

The remaining Capcom characters are Hsien-Ko, Haggar and Akuma. #mvc3

The remaining Marvel characters are Phoenix, Sentinel and Taskmaster. #mvc3

Akuma and Taskmaster are hidden characters. #mvc3

Galactus is the final boss. #mvc3

There will be 2 DLC stages. #mvc3

There will be downloadable characters in addition to Jill and Shuma-Gorath, but not many. Set realistic expectations. #mvc3

Frank was removed from the game over the summer for technical reasons. The silhouettes were never meant to fool anybody... he WAS in. #mvc3

Hsien-Ko and Phoenix will be revealed at Jump Festa this weekend. #mvc3

Haggar, Sentinel, and the Metro City stage will be revealed in January. #mvc3

Akuma and Taskmaster will be revealed in February. #mvc3

The creative deadline was in September. Frank was pulled about two months prior, and there was no time to add a new character in his place. (cont'd) The workload was too heavy as it was. Capcom had to make the decision to pull a Marvel character to even the roster out. (cont'd) Shuma-Gorath was removed from the game to even the sides, and the decision was made to offer him as DLC.

There are no rivals per se, but the roster was created with counterparts in mind. This leads to style balances between the two parties.

Fun fact: Juggernaut was intended to be Haggar's counterpart - brown-clad, hulking characters. Juggernaut was canned and replaced with Sent.

Juggernaut and other such characters were replaced early in development. There was never any actual development done on Juggernaut. #mvc3

I was asked about this - Jean Grey's official name in the game is Phoenix. Not sure if that hurts Phoenix Wright's chances as DLC. #mvc3

Speaking of DLC, I'm told that a lot (all?) has already been planned, but nearly everybody is in the dark about it at this point in time.

Don't expect DLC news until well into next year. #mvc3

"I Wanna Take You For a Ride" plays during the end credits. #mvc3

Fun fact: Viewtiful Joe tags in Hsien-Ko as "Lei-Lei" and Akuma as "Gouki." #mvc3

Stage details: "Metro City" - slums with several run-down buildings; NPCs fighting in the background #mvc3

I was asked this - I am not affiliated with Lupinko, but what I have seen from him is totally legit. And no, I do not work FOR Capcom.

Mega Man was one of the first characters ruled out - offers nothing unique, says devs. Arthur was added to fill his shoes. #mvc3

Akuma has some tricks up his sleeve, but nothing substantial. Mostly visual. In the game because of his MvC history as first crossover char. [Editor's note - he appeared has a hidden playable character in X-Men Children of the Atom.]

Episode 3 trailer finally coming VERY soon. Sooner than you might think! #mvc3

Yes, there will be select DLC costumes for some chars. Only a handful. These will be "model swaps" as opposed to the in-game texture swaps.

Haha, not sure WHO is getting DLC costumes. Too early. If I had to guess it would be people with significant looks like Spencer & Jill.

Fun fact: In earliest stages of roster consideration, Capcom was going to include a giant character per side, but decided that was too TvC.

Funny that the game's top series (SF & X-Men) don't have stages. #mvc3

Fun fact: Next time you see S-Kill, thank him for bringing Storm and Sentinel back. #mvc

The final character select screen is more or less the same as the one you've been seeing, design-wise. Hasn't been re-done like some think.

No moving cutscenes in Arcade. Just still images done in a "gritty" style. Don't expect a full-fledged cinematic experience. Very basic.

For those asking - my Twitter BG is for fun. Darkstalkers and Final Fight are among my favorite Capcom series. Looks mysterious though, eh?

Lots coming at Jump Festa. First new playable build in a while. #mvc3

New playable build, Hsien-Ko & Phoenix reveals, new trailer. #mvc3 #jumpfesta

@Carlos09e No Elektra, but she was considered for a while, actually. She made it through to the last round of roster discussions.

@kittypridefan Black Widow was never considered to my knowledge in any capacity.

@OhEsEm Producer Niitsuma-san is a BIG fan of Hsien-Ko and the Darkstalkers series. You can thank him.

@MCseblo Galactus is the final boss, but he is not a playable character.

@Carlos09e Hand stage is not for a specific char. The stage was designed before the final roster was decided.

@SonyaNavy Niitsuma likes her [Hsien-ko], and Niitsuma wanted to include more "fighting game characters."

@Cazza_91 Phoenix Wright was never seriously considered, but I do remember casual talk of him. Devs never took him seriously.

@EmperialDonut [About Taskmaster] Basically an amalgam character (borrowed moves) plus bow & arrow. Pretty unique as far as Vs. games go.

@LLEIII [About Phoenix's Outfit] Green with gold sash and details.

@Colonyoo A lot have been mentioned by others. Doc Ock was suggested, but Capcom preferred to use Spencer. Dhalsim-esque Mr. Fantastic.

@EmperialDonut [About Taskmaster] Borrowed moves period. His moveset doesn't change.

@MCSlumLord [Why isn't Jin or Rival Schools included?] Not sure the exact reasons, but they were never really discussed. Not important enough I guess?

@alex_mmorales Venom was discussed internally by Capcom, but Marvel didn't really want him in.

@CyanChosis [Asking about Psylocke] Never brought up much as far as I know. Elektra was a popular name during development, though.

@alex_mmorales [What is in store for DLC?] Chars, stages, and costumes. None of us "underlings" in America are clued into that stuff yet, but it's all been planned.

@videogame554 No Spider-Woman. Never considered.

@THECaseyLee [About Haggar] Honestly, yeah, he's a LOT like Zangief - no getting around that. But he does have some Final Fight goodies like weapons.

@DanteKong Never heard anything about Iron Fist. There wasn't a TON of Marvel discussion on my side, though.

@Gary2Gold [About Frank's technical issues] Frank had a bunch of RAM problems that nobody knew about until the game went online for the first time.

@Rvgarafola Haven't seen or heard anything Jill-related yet. Her character is still being worked on as far as I know. (cont'd) Zombies were problematic for Frank, so I'd guess Jill is being retooled. Just a guess.

@Colonyoo [On Gene from God Hand] Never heard his name once, honestly.

@Gioface [Asking about Galactus, and if Doom and Wesker are sub bosses] Hard to explain in tweet form - all 3 are sort of the final boss. You fight all 3 on one team at the same time.

@alex_mmorales DLC should keep you busy through 2011.

@IbukiKef [On the number of alt colors per charcter] 4 that I know of. I'll check for sure next week, but I'm 99% certain that there are 4 each.

@Isoko1 [Bison for DLC?] Yes, he was one of the more discussed names late last year. Akuma nabbed the SF villain spot, though.

@SGTDororo M. Bison, yeah, Ms. Marvel, no. Surprising because Marvel has been pushing her

@Megalax89 [On his source] Well... I don't want to get anyone in trouble. But word travels fast in SoCal... lol. Lots of 3rd parties have had hands-on.

@_syrup16g [Are DLC characters decided on, or completed?] Determined, yes (for the most part), made, no. Shuma-Gorath is complete, Jill isn't.

@GreenPipeMario Some of the guys at Capcom USA wanted Blade, but he's too similar to Dante/Chris.

@Mlepore36 The intro is cinematic, but that's it. The endings are static images.

@Dandy_J [On netcode quality being like SF4] Not sure, sorry. Tests from San Mateo to San Mateo and San Mateo to Japan were equally smooth, though. Could slow w/ more people.

@Colonyoo The only characters actually "cut from the disc" are Human Torch and Frank West, and we probably won't see them as DLC.

@landocondo [On Taskmaster's Outfit] He's blue with a white cape/hood. I'm not familiar with which is which, so I dunno if that's the original or Udon.

@Colonyoo The one name that has been thrown around on my side for DLC is Chuck Greene, but that's not to say he'll definitely be included.

@SGTDororo [Are Shuma and Jill on disc?] Not sure. I've seen Shuma with my own eyes, so there's that. But Jill isn't done yet.

@BrightBro [Does Phoenix come back after death with 5 bars? Does anyone else have anything similar?] Phoenix is the only character with a "mode" like that.

@fworldemperoror [Were any Cosmic characters considered?] Thanos and Silver Surfer, but never heard Nova or Quasar.

@JawesomeJaw [Was Doctor Strange discussed?] Never heard him mentioned - odd because of Shuma and Dormammu.

@apurvasaini [What about Ms Marvel? What other Marvel Ladies were considered? ]Ms. Marvel was never really brought up as far as I know by either side. Elektra and Emma Frost were both thrown around.

@Adelflame Strider was a talked-about character so it's always possible. Again, I don't know who's getting in as DLC. That's away from me.

@SGTDororo I didn't hear much about Gambit and Charlie. Dev team wanted Cyclops, though, but Marvel didn't.

@Colonyoo [On DLC pricing] I definitely don't know anything about pricing, haha. Way out of my league.

@Rvgarafola [Did X-23 replace Psylocke?] I'd guess they just didn't want her in. X-23 didn't replace anybody.

@rotomrocks12312 [Are you close to the development team?] I've got to be careful - I work "around" them.

@Arkrados Niitsuma loves Darkstalkers and as I understand it Talbain is one of his favorites, but to be realistic - don't expect DS DLC.

@GreenPipeMario Pretty sure B.B. Hood was never planned!

@rotomrocks12312 Frank was removed for similar reasons to Human Torch - memory issues.

@Mlepore36 Human Torch was designed to be engulfed in constant flame - this caused slowdown. Frank's zombie Supers caused slowdown online.

@AlbertusWesker 4 buttons = different color

@Poison_for_SSF4 Poison WAS discussed a bit, actually. She has an NPC model in the Metro City stage, though.. Take ALL of this with a huge pinch of salt, but remember that Capcom have a history of leaking things before. With SSFIV there was a lot of leaked information that turned out to be entirely true, so there have been big things let go before. The URL for the banned Twitter was http://twitter.com/klennox22

edit: and have a list of achievements (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/marvel-vs-capcom-3/achievements/). A few are spoilers by the looks of it.

[mudah.swf]

A double post admittedly, but Akuma's just been revealed thanks to a goof-up by NowGamer, which I didn't know existed until now. The review has since been taken down, but here's the screenshot (http://www.neoempire.com/?p=5731), and Shoryuken has a screengrab of said review (http://shoryuken.com/content/pull-review-leaks-expected-marvel-vs-capcom-3-character-3052/). The score was 8.3, claiming that it was the "perfect antidote to SF4's endless difficulty curve", but if this is anything like MvC2 it's going to get just as hard if not more so.

Apparently the official reveal of him and maybe another character is supposed to be today, so we should be seeing official screens soon. As for who else is to be revealed, rumours point strongly to Taskmaster, Phoenix or Green Goblin for the Marvel side. For Green Goblin in particular I did see a screenshot with him in the MVC3 "style" but I'm not entirely sure of its legitness, so I suppose we'l have to wait until later today.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

First page of review is cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cache:http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/reviews/xbox-360/9617/marvel-vs-capcom-3
That review is totally just taking the piss out of the MvC2 fanbase though. Hilarity.

[mudah.swf]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/jan/06/phoenix-and-haggar-officially-revealed-marvel-vs-capcom-3/#comments

Phoenix and Haggar were revealed today, making me totally mistaken on the next chars to be revealed.