Up coming Handheld Gen's gonna ROCK HARD!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So I was poking around Tvtropes and found this.
http://www.panasonicjungle.org/

Panasonic is throwing it's hat into the console wars ring with Jungle. An Online focused Handheld.

PanaSonic Jungle

A couple of weeks ago, the well known Japanese electronics company, Panasonic, announced the Panasonic Jungle, its upcoming gaming device. You may have even seen Rob’s Jungle Jingle episode of Rob’s Fantasy Factory. Since then, there’ve only been a few updates, mainly which games are going to be playable on the Jungle. Other than that, this new handheld gaming device is still quite a mystery.

Today, an email was sent out to some users. It looks like Panasonic wants testers for its new gaming system. The email describes the system as being “committed to the cloud and web-based content, the free-to-play movement, social and community-based gaming, and new forms of digital entertainment.” Panasonic seems to feel rather confident in their new device as they congratulate supporters for “thinking outside of the box” with them rather than “other companies” and their traditional gaming systems.

http://www.panasonicjungle.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/panasonic-jungle-pic3.jpg

http://www.panasonicjungle.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/panasonic-jungle-2.jpg

So far games confirmed for Jungle are:



Stellar Dawn is the culmination of almost 4 years of work on a browser based sci-fi MMORPG game by Jagex Ltd (who also created RuneScape). According to the company, Stellar Dawn is a “combat-driven MMORPG with a rich sci-fi storyline.”

It was announced in mid October that Stellar Dawn will also be playable on the upcoming portable gaming console, the Panasonic Jungle. The company’s hit MMORPG, Runescape: Dungeons of Daemonheim, will be playable for the Panasonic Jungle.

The original project was developed under the name of MechScape, but in 2009, Jagex decided that MechScape was not up to its standards, so it began reworking on the project, renaming the game, Stellar Dawn. A closed beta release of Stellar Dawn is available now, although a date for the official release was not given.

Stellar dawn for the panasonic jungleIn June, 2010, a Jagex Moderator announced that Stellar Dawn was only several months from being released.

They also called Stellar Dawn the company’s “biggest release to date”. The official Stellar Dawn website was launched a month later, with a closed beta application, FAQ, forum and concept art. The official launch of the game will be in 2011. According to the officials, Stellar Dawn will have different setting and gameplay from RuneScape.


It is still too early to say whether Stellar Dawn is a good match for the Panasonic Jungle. If you don’t know already, the Panasonic Jungle is a soon to be released handheld gaming device, specializing in browser based MMORPGs. Not many details are known about either. Since the official announcement of the Panasonic Jungle, the company hasn’t given many updates besides what games will be featured. So far, the Panasonic Jungle will be able to play Battlestar Galactica Online as well as RuneScape.
Stellar dawn for the panasonic jungle

As with all of the other games developed by Jagex Ltd, Stellar Dawn is browser-based (meaning you play straight from Firefox or Internet Explorer) so you can pretty much play from any computer with an internet connection. The game will cost absolutely nothing to play, although there may be a subscription for additional features.

That’s pretty much everything we know about Stellar Dawn and the Panasonic Jungle. Hang tight and check back soon because there are sure to be updates!



Panasonic recently updated the official website for the Panasonic Jungle with two new MMORPG games, one of them being Runescape: Dungeons of Daemonheim. Dungeons of Daemonheim is the latest expansion to the popular online MMORPG, RuneScape which came out in early 2010.

Runescape is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game in the fantasy genre which was released early 2001 by Jagex. Currently, it has about ten million accounts that are active and over 130 million accounts registered, making it the world’s number 1 free MMORPG. Now it’s going to be available on the Jungle, Panasonic’s soon-to-be-released handheld gaming device.

Why is RuneScape so popular? The number one reason is that it’s free. Like Battlestar Galactica Online, which has yet to be released, it’s browser based and doesn’t require any installation. According to the official RuneScape site, there is over 15,000 hours of game play!

Runescape is set in the Gielinor, a fantasy world in the medieval ages. Gielindor is separated into various kingdoms, regions and cities. Gamers move through the fantasy world either on foot, or using magical spells such as teleportation. There are monsters, missions and resources to make the game fun.

Players can customize their avatars and the storyline is not set, but gamers can choose their own mission and goals. You can fight monsters, complete quests or interact with others by chatting, trading or playing minigames. Dungeons of Daemonheim was the largest and most impressive upgrade to Runescape Jagex has made. Three new underground levels were added, each with customized and randomized rooms. No two rooms or experiences are ever the same. The expansion provided billions of new gaming possibilities and over 60,000 hours of novel gameplay.

It isn’t really a surprise that Pansonic announced that Runescape would be playable on the Panasonic Jungle. The Panasonic Jungle is supposed to specialize in MMORPGs, particularly browser based games. The Panasonic Jungle features a touch pad that allows these types of games to be played.

It would have been shocking if it didn’t support the most popular free MMORPG. In fact one of the few released pictures of the Panasonic Jungle has the King Black Dragon Battle (from Runescape.com) as the background!

Panasonic still hasn’t released any additional information about the Panasonic Jungle since early October. So far, the only new updates is that it will be able to support RuneScape and Steller Dawn. The dilemma is: RuneScape is super popular because it’s free. Will gamer want to spend a couple hundred to buy another device just to play it on the go? We’ll have to wait and see.



Battlestar Galactica Online is a new MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role playing game) developed by Bigpoint, a German videogame publisher and developer. The game is based off of the popular cult television series. The game play is based around the continual conflict between the humans and the Cyclons.

Battlestar Galactica Online delves deeper into the Battlestar universe, which also leads into Syfy’s television show, “Caprica”. Similar to Dark Orbit, another game released by Bigpoint, Battlestar Galactica Online is in realtime. Players are allowed to purchase different ships and customize them with a variety of parts.

What makes Battlestar Galactica Online different from previous Bigpoint games is that BGO was designed using the powerful Unity engine. This gives the game gorgeous 3 dimensional graphics that are on the same level as client based games. Players can obtain their ships from the Battlestar Galactica Online world. Also, there is no combat that takes place on land. The level cap is said to be at 20. The game was first introduced at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco in early 2010 and is scheduled to release in the fall of 2010.
Battlestar Galactica Online Official Trailer:

Surprisingly, there has never been a major videogame based on Battlestar Galactica, despite the sci-fi and videogame audience crossover. There was a starship fighting game in 2007 with the title “Battlestar Galactica” which flopped.

Bill Kispert, the VP of digital platforms for partnerships and licensing department of the major movie studio, Universal Pictures says that the online MMORPG will be catered towards fans of the tv series, “We are picking a point in the chronology of the series that fans are familiar with to tell new stories. There will be space combats as well as missions and explorations.”

But Battlestart Galactica Online may also attract gamers who are not fans of the show. Unlike other popular MMORPGs such as WOW, which have a price tag around $50 and then require a monthly subscription fee, Battlestar Galactica can be played in an internet browser for free! The advantages of making a browser-based game is that developers can constant add updates for their gamers.
Battlestar Galactica Online and the Panasonic Jungle

In early October, Panasonic announced that it will be releasing the Panasonic Jungle, a portable handheld gaming device designed exclusively for MMORPGs. While details about the Panasonic Jungle are still sketchy, Panasonic has announced that Battlestar Galactica Online will be playable on the console.



The new Panasonic Jungle features the ability to play MMORPGs and first person games. And it’s portable too. Does this make it better than the Nintendo Dsi, PSP or Pandora? We can’t say for sure right now, but this new handheld gaming system looks like it could have potential. Read to find out more about the specific Panasonic Jungle features.
Panasonic Jungle Features

Although Panasonic hasn’t really announced to the public the specific features of its new gaming device, the Jungle, there is a lot of speculation and rumors on what the new handheld gaming device will feature. Panasonic has released a couple of pictures of the console as well as teaser videos, so we can deduce what the portable gaming system will feature. They have also hinted on some features in their press releases and on the official website. Again, these Panasonic Jungle features are guesses and are not yet official.

Panasonic said that the Jungle will feature a “kick a$$ display” and that the high quality resolution will be one of the best features. This means the resolution of the screen is probably HD, perhaps 720p. 720p refers to the HDTV video mode that has a resolution of 1280×720. That would be truly awesome if they allowed HD resolution on a portable screen.

However, producing usable graphics for deep MMO games is difficult enough around, even at normal PC resolution. Shrinking that screen to fit on a portable device makes the challenge even harder.
Panasonic Jungle Features- Games

According to the makers of the new gaming console, the Panasonic Jungle features the ability to allow players to play against other gamers online. They have hinted that the device will create an “online gaming ecosystem” so the device will probably specialize in MMO (massively multiplayer online) games. Potentially, this device can play World of Warcraft or Starcraft 2, which would be awesome. So far, the official game announced is Battlestar Galactica Online, a MMORPG based off of the hit TV series, Battlestar Galactica.

The Panasonic Jungle features a Linux operating system. Although this is unconfirmed it is very likely. This means that it won’t be able to run games such as World of Warcraft, which traditionally run on PCs or Macs. One MMO online developer said that Linux is not a good system to develop games for, or transfer Mac or Windows games to.
Panasonic Jungle Features- Controls

The Panasonic Jungle features a dpad, a full QWERTY keyboard and a touch pad. A lot of people are skeptical about whether the touch pad could fully replace a mouse. There are also two shoulder buttons.

Please leave a comment if you have any more information on the Panasonic Jungle features.
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PSP2

Well so far all I've found that's reliable is that the reason the system wasn't shown or pushed is because it's having heating problems. What we do know is that it supposedly has dual analog sticks, a rear-mounted touch panel, a larger screen, and more processing power (which seems to be the route of the heating problems), That and there aren't really any games announced for it aside from Uncharted PSP2. We'll know SOMETHING about it by the time E32011 comes around.

Oh and much like this gen, PSP2 will have another version of it's self, the PSPhone.

http://kotaku.com/5724514/more-spy-shots-of-the-playstation-phone-sneak-out/gallery/

Which...

Xperia and PlayStation branding have found their way onto the PlayStation Phone, for one. The device's menu system also seems to indicate that the phone will run Android Gingerbread 2.3 (which Gizmodo recently reviewed).

Will we see an announcement of the device at this week's CES? And will the Xperia Play make a spring release, as previously reported? We may find out by this Wednesday, when Sony holds its CES 2011 press conference.

Oh and while possibly old news, Kotaku is holding a PSP2 design contest for the lolz.
http://kotaku.com/361753/psp2-concepts-a-new-challenge


There are some very sexy designs.

And you guys already know about the 3DS. Which is going to be the first out of the gate.

Man do I get hyped when I hear about new tech! :D

[Jagos]

Dear gods...

The Jungle looks horrible.

[Viridis]

Dear gods...

The Jungle looks horrible.Yeah, my first impression is that it is the N-Gage all over again.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I personally have a little faith in it. Though it all comes down to rather or not they'll grab any attention from third party developers.

And PSP2's design is still a mystery. With only 1 hint (Rear mounted touch panel).

[Doc ock rokc]

I personally have a little faith in it. Though it all comes down to rather or not they'll grab any attention from third party developers.

And PSP2's design is still a mystery. With only 1 hint (Rear mounted touch panel).

actually no Game informer displayed early alpha PSP2s they look like the psp lite (you know the one without a umd reader) but with two "joy sticks"

also your forgetting the 3DS...

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I mentioned it at the end but I haven't found much new that isn't already old news. (Stuff we already no about).

Right now this threads more focused on Jungle till PSP2, PSPhone, and 3DS get more new info. (3DS I gotta look more into once I've got some more free time)

[Marc v4.0]

PSPhone...hahahaha

so is that PS phone? PSP phone? PS P-honé?

Yeah, P-honé

[Bells]

the Jungle reminds me of a Unholy child of the Ngage and the PSPGo... it's a weird feeling. Not a good feeling. Just... a weird feeling.

I think the 3ds will sell like Hotcakes, but it's more because of the Beefier Hardware than because of the 3d itself... i'm not so sure if the PSP2 can pull out a powerful enough launch to become 1st this gen

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It would have to have a price that can rival 3DS, and have a great set of diverse launch titles.

Right now the only thing hurting PSP2 is that heating issue Sony's dealing with.

Graphics might be on pars with/slightly above 3DS's graphics.

Not sure if Jungle can earn any love but apparently it's got some hype going for it. Granted it's basement hype from the looks of it.

[Bells]

You know what i thought was a really nifty idea? This article Kotaku ran just this week about a portable Netbook-like gaming device that had 2 screen, on the top one you had the game, and the bottom one was filled with this empyt boxes that actually were touch-screen configurable panel buttons. There were a mini-keyboard worth of buttons there, and the idea is that each game would come with it's own setting for that area.

If you can get some serious support, i could totally see a device like this becoming an option

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It's defiantly a great idea. With a good enough push it could give 3DS some fierce competition. Still got the link to this article Bells?

[Arcanum]

Speaking of the PSPhone... (http://kotaku.com/5727291/here-are-the-playstation-phones-specs)

Note: I haven't read the article I just saw it and thought I'd pass it along to those interested.

I am curious to know when Sony will officially reveal the PSP2 though, since it was missing at CES. Hopefully they'll say something about it at GDC, since if they wait 'till E3 everyone will probably know everything about it via leaks.

edit- they also posted this (http://kotaku.com/5727304/lets-see-the-playstation-phone-in-action)

edit2- and here is the link (http://kotaku.com/5726670/the-portable-laptop-that-might-make-pc-gaming-on+the+go-work) to the thing Bells mentioned.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

PSPhone is pretty damn impressive in it's beta stage.

Gives me high hopes for the PSP2. (And hopefully that heating problem won't be 360 at launch bad. Would hate for my 300$ Handheld RoDing on me.)

[The Argent Lord]

I don't know, I just... I've never heard of a gaming phone working out. Gluing a preexisting gaming device to a phone seems like both a step that's more likely to be successful than, say, the N-Gage and also a still pretty terrible business decision.

I guess maybe I just... don't see the point? Why do you need a PSP in your phone and/or a phone in your PSP? I think most people who want both of those two things already have both of those two things, and won't want to spend more money to replace them with one device. Those who don't have both of those two things are mostly going to be those who can't afford the cost, and this doesn't help those people any.

[Kim]

I think the problem is more that the devices themselves are more often than not terrible, which this could be but I honestly don't know enough to say.

[Ryong]

I don't know, I just... I've never heard of a gaming phone working out. Gluing a preexisting gaming device to a phone seems like both a step that's more likely to be successful than, say, the N-Gage and also a still pretty terrible business decision.

I don't know, the iOS used by the iPhone has a fuckton of games (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/18/guess-which-is-the-most-prolific-platform/). And it's not trying to be a gaming system, but seems to be doing fairly well (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement).

[The Argent Lord]

iOS games are usually low-production casual games that cost somewhere between 99c and $5. It's a very different market than the PSPhone. I'm not saying that this can't work, just that it seems like a fairly small niche.

[Magic_Marker]

How the hell am I going to put that monstrosity in my pocket without looking like I have a tumor in my leg?

[Yumil]

I'm not too sure about the Jungle. Sure it looks stupid, but I'm not too keen on buying a device for just cloud gaming. For one on a handheld you'll need either constant wifi(which strips it's use in a number of areas) or some kind of cellular subscription(which you are already paying some sort of subscription more than likely for the games).

I want to see cloud gaming use current devices, much like it's being used today on PCs(playing games on comps that cant run em is one of the pluses of cloud gaming). Heck, I saw an amazing tech demo of OnLive on the IPad in which they played borderlands on it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFzpF0msrU)(they have released a viewer and are apparently having problems getting the playing games part through to apple). Thats what I want to see. Perhaps develop apps for current handhelds to do this along with the tablet and cell market. No need for a device that is used just for it.

[Premmy]

So I was poking around Tvtropes and found this.

I feel like every thread you make starts like this and it's beginning to worry me.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

If it helps. You guys usually beat me to whatever thread I try to make. That and yeah this is the first I've noticed that my threads were getting a bit too TvTropes related.

It also should be noted that I rarely ever create a thread unless it's a "help me with something" thread or Sonic/Megaman/WildARMS related. So this one's an odd ball.

[Aldurin]

The Jungle looks bizarre and horrible, and the fact that it appears to be building a compatibility as the handheld MMO device. I'd be more for this if it was confirmed to have an extensive battery life, games other than MMO's and if this rumored Linux OS for it came with a proper Windows compatibility layer.

[BitVyper]

How the hell am I going to put that monstrosity in my pocket without looking like I have a tumor in my leg?

Shift your pocket over your crotch so it just looks like you have a horrifyingly mishapen, constantly erect penis.

My name is BitVyper. I help people.

[Aldurin]

Shift your pocket over your crotch so it just looks like you have a horrifyingly mishapen, constantly erect penis.

My name is BitVyper. I help people.

Get a specially tailored pocket so it looks like a normal perma-boner and that way you get the attention of the ladies.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Get a specially tailored pocket so it looks like a normal perma-boner and that way you get the attention of the ladies.

Up in till they touch it and it talks back.

[Premmy]

Yours doesn't talk?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Yours does!?

[Premmy]

It does a lot of things...

[Locke cole]

Man, I just can't stop being excited for the 3DS.

[Doc ock rokc]

Man, I just can't stop being excited for the 3DS.

I still am skeptical about it. I want to see it and try it before I make Judgment.

[Krylo]

It does a lot of things...

I am the very model of a modern Genitalia
I've information vaginal, cervical, and labia.
I am quite good at reproduction as a subset of biology,
Because I am an expert, which I know is a tautology.

I'm very well acquainted with matters hypersexual
I understand orgasms, both the simple and the multiple
About oral cunnilingus I'm teeming with a lot o' news
And your lady parts I would not ever dare abuse.

[Eltargrim]

Got into the BSGO beta; will report on how awesome it is. At least, I hope that there's awesome.

EDIT: Graphics are surprisingly good for a browser game.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

PLEASE NOTE! THE FOLLOWING LINK CONTAINS ONLY RUMORS OF WHAT PSP2 CAN DO!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSP2

Not much here though at least it shows some signs of the PSP2 existing. Of course wiki so this is likely a waste of a post.

Man, it's such a long wait. Sony could at least show us at it looks like. :(

I feel like a kid on the week before Christmas.

EDIT:


OH MY GOD!

http://www.vg247.com/2010/11/17/psp2-dev-kit-snaps-show-twin-sticks-trackpad/

PICS of the prototype FRAME! :D

http://assets.vg247.com/current//2010/11/front.jpg

http://assets.vg247.com/current//2010/11/back.jpg

I almost screamed when I saw these. They could be fake but still...

X3

AND it looks all Digital...

and 2x more powerful then 360.


EVEN MORE INFO!
http://psp.ign.com/articles/113/1138879p1.html

Confirming that the final modal could producing games rivaling PS3 in Graphics!!

I will sleep like a baby tonight! :)

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Update:

More info on PSP2.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3183093

Also thought this should be pointed out.

Further distancing itself from the original PSP, the new system will also not use UMDs, but instead use Flash-rom carts, which will help publishers manufacture games more quickly should they need to ramp up production when a game sells out.

It's going the DS route. So no more noisey big discs. But I wonder what this will mean for BC.

[Marc v4.0]

and 2x more powerful then 360.

2x the RAM. RUMORED. The processor isn't near as powerful as the 360s 3.

The price alone to make a handheld 2x as powerful all-around would be monumental, for a handheld.


Not that any of this matters much, the 3DS is going to be the thing to own and will continue Nintendo's dominance of the hand-held market.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

2x the RAM. RUMORED. The processor isn't near as powerful as the 360s 3.

The price alone to make a handheld 2x as powerful all-around would be monumental, for a handheld.


Not that any of this matters much, the 3DS is going to be the thing to own and will continue Nintendo's dominance of the hand-held market.

But this is Sony and likely Kaz we're talking about...

At the very least though it seems it's much more powerful all around then the 3DS.

[Bells]

Not that any of this matters much, the 3DS is going to be the thing to own and will continue Nintendo's dominance of the hand-held market.

Not if Sony manages to launch the PSP2 cheaper than the 3DS, then it's a free for all fight.

Overall the PSP2 seems to be turning out a fine fine machine, and with the 3DS being also quite the powerhouse i guess it will end up about players gameplay style or pretty much all about Library

[Kyanbu The Legend]

There also seems to be a possibility that it will not be called PSP2 for marketing reasons.

[Yumil]

Not if Sony manages to launch the PSP2 cheaper than the 3DS, then it's a free for all fight.

Overall the PSP2 seems to be turning out a fine fine machine, and with the 3DS being also quite the powerhouse i guess it will end up about players gameplay style or pretty much all about Library

We're talking about Sony here. You know it'll be $300+

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Kaz: $399!

Oh god I hope not but damn if it isn't possible.

[Marc v4.0]

I think Nintendo has a massive edge, as far as Library of games goes.

They could pump out a never-ending stream of games featuring the most iconic figures. It is partially the reason they have dominated.

edit: And price, and establishment.

Honestly, I think that last point is part of why I, and many others I know, aren't Interested in the PSP2. The PSP hasn't really been established enough to justify an all-new upgrade at such a price. Not saying they need to go on for a million years like the original Gameboy did, just...I dunno. I don't have much faith in them keeping up if they are going to change format and control in such drastic ways. I know Nintendo releases 30 different versions of every hand-held, but My DS games play in a Lite, DSi, and DS-XBOXHUGE. I wouldn't be surprised if they could play in a 3DS ala GBA in the DS (Actually, I expect them to. It is a trend that has been established since the GBA.(GB-Color if you want to count that)).

EDIT: Yeah, it is a general lack of faith that Sony is delivering a consistant and long-lasting product. That my games aren't going to have an extended life if I choose to upgrade to better hardware.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

3DS is being released in just one month now!!

yay! Even though I can't afford it. But still yay!

http://www.nintendo3dsreleasedate.com/

[Kim]

Cave Story 3D was announced for the 3DS.

Fuck everything that is not the 3DS.

[bluestarultor]

Cave Story 3D was announced for the 3DS.

Fuck everything that is not the 3DS.

No, I say fuck the 3DS with a rusty skyscraper and fuck the Wii with a slightly-tarnished spork. A large part of Cave Story's charm was the graphics and sound. The fact that it was made by ONE GUY! It gave people like me everywhere hope to one day be able to produce something half as good the same way.

The Wii version was good (Pixel getting paid for his hard work), but it already had added stuff and updated the graphics and all so people would pay for something they already could get for free.

Now the 3DS is getting the game right away and it's past the event horizon. Not that Pixel "sold out," but you can bet it'll be in 3D and have a ton of extras and be a ridiculous price for a game that you can STILL get for free that's just as amazing as it ever was that just MEANS so much more. It's now past Pixel becoming the success he deserves based on his work and is into the degrading position of corporate tool. Making it a launch title is basically stealing it. Not in the sense of theft from Pixel, but the theft of what made it great - that it was an amazing production with a real soul. Nintendo bringing it to the 3DS is reducing it down to numbers and marketability, something sure to sell and pull buyers to their systems like Mario and Zelda, games featuring characters with no real personality with casts boiled down to tropes. Games with no heart. Quote and crew deserve better than that.

It's not that I take issue with it COMING to the 3DS so much as it being announced before launch, because you know they're doing it to push units. I just feel it's unfair for it to be bastardized like that instead of respecting it enough to not use it to drive hype for the system. Nintendo has plenty of their own stuff for that.

[Marc v4.0]

No, I say fuck the 3DS with a rusty skyscraper and fuck the Wii with a slightly-tarnished spork. A large part of Cave Story's charm was the graphics and sound. The fact that it was made by ONE GUY! It gave people like me everywhere hope to one day be able to produce something half as good the same way.

The Wii version was good (Pixel getting paid for his hard work), but it already had added stuff and updated the graphics and all so people would pay for something they already could get for free.

Now the 3DS is getting the game right away and it's past the event horizon. Not that Pixel "sold out," but you can bet it'll be in 3D and have a ton of extras and be a ridiculous price for a game that you can STILL get for free that's just as amazing as it ever was that just MEANS so much more. It's now past Pixel becoming the success he deserves based on his work and is into the degrading position of corporate tool. Making it a launch title is basically stealing it. Not in the sense of theft from Pixel, but the theft of what made it great - that it was an amazing production with a real soul. Nintendo bringing it to the 3DS is reducing it down to numbers and marketability, something sure to sell and pull buyers to their systems like Mario and Zelda, games featuring characters with no real personality with casts boiled down to tropes. Games with no heart. Quote and crew deserve better than that.

It's not that I take issue with it COMING to the 3DS so much as it being announced before launch, because you know they're doing it to push units. I just feel it's unfair for it to be bastardized like that instead of respecting it enough to not use it to drive hype for the system. Nintendo has plenty of their own stuff for that.

Ya know, for an aspiring...whatever the hell you are aspiring to again, this is a rather strange turn of events that I cannot begin to really understand.

Or maybe I am being silly and I wouldn't want the biggest video game company (as well as handheld lords) in the world to be using my ideas to push their handheld units. I should hate money and exposure.

[Kim]

words words words

This is a pretty silly complaint, all things considered. Launch title announcements are all made to push units, no matter what they are. You kind of have to, or nobody will buy your console. Complaining that a fantastic game is getting improved graphics, more content and secrets, and being put on a console I was going to be buying already seems like a very silly thing to do.

You're "It gave people like me hope that we could make something good" seems ridiculous, since this means that, in theory, that a company could pick up your game, refine it, and you could make MAD MONEYZ YO off it, and also get more of an opportunity to work in the industry as a result. Slim chance as hell, but hey in theory.

Fan rage all you want, but it makes no sense.

[phil_]

I'd be all with you, blues, if it weren't still available for free in English on the internet. But it is, so... yeah. This seems like a "best of both worlds" type of thing.

Not sure how 3D could benefit Cave Story, though. Are there any videos or concept images or something?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

http://www.1up.com/news/ram-cut-internal-memory-removed

So, rumor from a supposed trusted french source as leaked info that Sony has halved the NGP's total RAM. And that Internal memory is a no go.

This is still good since most of this RAM was towards the pointless add on features they had crammed in it, before they stripped it down.

Now with this suppose latest downgrade, the NGP can now launch at an estimated price of $250 to $300, just like the 3DS.

Nice to see Sony learned something after the mess that was PS3's launch year.

Remember that the unaltered NGP with all of it's specs and functions in check (supposedly the original test model was equal to the 360 in terms of specs) may have cost more then $400 to $500+. Not a great price for a tiny handheld gaming console.

[Melfice]

Remember that the unaltered NGP with all of it's specs and functions in check (supposedly the original test model was equal to the 360 in terms of specs) may have cost more than $400 to $500+. Not a great price for a tiny handheld gaming console.

With such a price-point, it's like they're saying "Yeah, we really love the 3DS. We're just putting this out here so you'll laugh at it and don't think twice about shelling out €300 for a 3DS."

[Kyanbu The Legend]

sort of, yeah I guess. regardless Sony would have been at too much of a loss what with them only recently making up on the PS3 losses before the PSN blackout.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

words words words about Cave Story.

It's not that I take issue with it COMING to the 3DS so much as it being announced before launch, because you know they're doing it to push units. I just feel it's unfair for it to be bastardized like that instead of respecting it enough to not use it to drive hype for the system. Nintendo has plenty of their own stuff for that.

Wouldn't happen if Pixel didn't allow it to. You're raging in the wrong direction, broseph. You're basically faulting him for being a successful indie dev and turning a profit.

I mean, that would almost be like saying indie developers need to stay indie forever, and never compromise anything for profit or success! Right?! Heaven forbid! While we're at it let's froth at Super Meat Boy and Minecraft for being successful instead of lurking on the wayside. *Hipster glasses.*

[Kim]

The thing that drives me mad about that post of Blues' is that Blues likes to always bring how he "works in the industry" and supposedly gets all this stuff about it and is just so much more informed about all that stuff than we are, but then you have a very basic thing like this. An indie game was succesful, the succesful game's success is being rewarded by getting a remake for a brand new system, and he complains about all this stuff about how they shouldn't be doing it, which flies in the face of his "insider knowledge" etc etc etc and just understands all this stuff blah blah blah.

[Fifthfiend]

No, I say fuck the 3DS with a rusty skyscraper and fuck the Wii with a slightly-tarnished spork. A large part of Cave Story's charm was the graphics and sound. The fact that it was made by ONE GUY! It gave people like me everywhere hope to one day be able to produce something half as good the same way.

The Wii version was good (Pixel getting paid for his hard work), but it already had added stuff and updated the graphics and all so people would pay for something they already could get for free.

Now the 3DS is getting the game right away and it's past the event horizon. Not that Pixel "sold out," but you can bet it'll be in 3D and have a ton of extras and be a ridiculous price for a game that you can STILL get for free that's just as amazing as it ever was that just MEANS so much more. It's now past Pixel becoming the success he deserves based on his work and is into the degrading position of corporate tool. Making it a launch title is basically stealing it. Not in the sense of theft from Pixel, but the theft of what made it great - that it was an amazing production with a real soul. Nintendo bringing it to the 3DS is reducing it down to numbers and marketability, something sure to sell and pull buyers to their systems like Mario and Zelda, games featuring characters with no real personality with casts boiled down to tropes. Games with no heart. Quote and crew deserve better than that.

It's not that I take issue with it COMING to the 3DS so much as it being announced before launch, because you know they're doing it to push units. I just feel it's unfair for it to be bastardized like that instead of respecting it enough to not use it to drive hype for the system. Nintendo has plenty of their own stuff for that.

...like are they changing the ending to tie it into the shitty sequel where all your favorite characters died offscreen, I mean, what?

[Kim]

I think I prefer the implication that announcing a game before the console launches is morally bankrupt. Like, he's literally saying that the bad thing isn't that they brought it to the 3DS, but that they decided to do so before the 3DS was out. That is the thing that upsets him so much. It's... hilarious, really.

And I once again want to emphasize that half the reason it's so hilarious is that he always claims supreme knowledge of the industry beyond that of us peasants.

[Nikose Tyris]

Just checking, could I legitimately claim superior knowledge? I'd like to think I can from working inside the system, but I'm sincerely interested.


Also I would have shelled out the money for the extra ram + built in memory. DSLinux would be a thing that happened.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Also I would have shelled out the money for the extra ram + built in memory. DSLinux would be a thing that happened.

Are you referring to DSlinux that goes on the nintendo DS or Damn Small Linux? 'cause the former only needs 4mb (and designed for the DS and all) and the latter only needs 128mb ram. Somethin tells me that even with the reduced specs the PSP2 won't have a problem running a good number of distros.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

PlayStation Vita, It has a nice ring to it. I hope it does end up being the true name for the NGP. (http://gamespundit.com/1359/rumour-time-ngps-official-name-revealed)