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Magus
10-05-2011, 08:11 PM
Link (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/10/04/national/a062750D62.DTL#ixzz1ZpErWljD)

In the world of video games, realism reigns supreme, but the makers of a game based on the infamous private security firm Blackwater are intentionally steering clear of it.

There's no blood, the enemies are fictional and civilians can't be killed. With no moral dilemmas in "Blackwater," it's simply a matter of shoot — or be shot.

"It's a game," said Erik Prince, the company's founder. "This is not a training device. This is not a simulator. We're not doing this to teach folks how to conduct military operations in an urban terrain. That's not it at all. This is more along the lines of kids running around their neighborhood playing cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians."

Prince partnered with developer Zombie Studios and publisher 505 Games to create the game using Microsoft Corp.'s motion-sensing Kinect technology for the Xbox 360. The camera-based system detects players' movements as they dodge enemy fire, kick down doors and lunge across rooftops while shooting foes across virtual battlefields in a fictional North African country.

The game's protagonists are a team of made-up Blackwater operatives tasked with protecting aid workers and other dignitaries in a volatile nation overrun by a warlord named General Limbano. Along the way, the four-man team — with each member armed with a different type of weapon — must blast away the hordes of encroaching minions.

The game is Prince's first attempt to leverage Blackwater as a brand. After founding the company in 1997, the former NAVY Seal stepped away from daily operations in 2009 but retained licensing rights to the Blackwater name. The security firm, which is still in operation and is now called Xe Services, was sold to investor group USTC Holdings last year.

Blackwater, which provided services to the U.S. government in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere, drew criticism from members of Congress and others after a 2007 shooting in Baghdad that killed 17 people. Those accusations were thrown out after a judge found prosecutors mishandled evidence, but the case was resurrected this year by a federal appeals court.

The game, which is scheduled for release Oct. 25, isn't an attempt to convalesce Blackwater's reputation, according to Prince. He said his motivation was to ultimately create an active and engaging shooter that would make players' entire bodies sore instead of just their thumbs. Still, Prince recognizes not everyone will want to push the start button.

"I think anyone who sticks their neck out in life will be attacked in some quarters for doing it," said Prince. "I'm fully comfortable with that. Some people are not always going to like Blackwater, but there are many millions of people that do like Blackwater. I'm not out to rehabilitate an image. We're out to provide a good experience and enjoyable game."

"Blackwater" isn't the first shoot-'em-up game to depict private military contractors or court controversy.

The 2008 cooperative third-person shooter "Army of Two" and its 2010 sequel from Electronic Arts Inc. focused on a pair of former Army Rangers carrying out missions for cash in such locales as Afghanistan, Iraq and China on behalf of a fictional security firm.

Electronic Arts switched the name of virtual combatants in the multiplayer mode of the military shooter "Medal of Honor" from "Taliban" to "Opposing Force" after the game was banned from being sold at U.S. military bases in 2010.

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" from Activision Blizzard Inc. included a skippable level when it was released in 2009 that cast gamers as an agent who infiltrates a Russian villain's inner circle to defeat him but ends up participating in a terrorist attack on an airport while acting as part of the villain's group.

Konami Corp. canceled plans in 2009 to publish "Six Days in Fallujah," a game re-enacting a 2004 battle in Iraq.

Zombie Studios lead designer Richard Dormer said the "Blackwater" developers hoped to avoid such resistance by reducing the game's violent content and emphasizing arcade-style competitive elements. Players can vie for the fastest time and biggest score. They can also shoot out hidden propaganda materials — but definitely not civilians — found within the game's levels.

"I waged strongly for the possibility of shooting civilians because I thought it could tell the story well," said Dormer. "In the end, we didn't need there to be any more controversy. It seemed beside the point of the game. It was a much bigger risk to jeopardize everything else involved, especially with what happened with `Six Days in Fallaujah.'"

While players are awarded extra points for shooting combatants in the head, the blood and profanity doesn't flow as freely in "Blackwater" as it does in mature-rated shooters like "Call of Duty." The teen-rated "Blackwater" includes "mild language" and "violence," according to the Entertainment Software Ratings Board.

"We didn't want this to be restricted to adults," said Prince. "We wanted to dial the violence down so that kids could play it in the same way that they go outside throw snowballs at each other or whatever. We wanted to be able to spread the game to that demographic. Frankly, I also wanted something that I'd be comfortable with my own boys playing."

So not only does the founder of Blackwater, a group of mercenaries charged with war crimes and the murder/rape of civilians (this article only cites one case of many, see this topic for more (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=40232&highlight=blackwater)) who each receive three six times the amount of salary from the U.S. government of the average U.S. Army soldier while operating under a fraction of the governmental oversight, have the audacity to create a game about Blackwater, he decided to tone down the violence so it can be sold to teenagers.

How about this, Erik Prince? Go fuck yourself.

Marc v4.0
10-05-2011, 08:21 PM
How about this, Erik Prince? Go fuck yourself.

^

Krylo
10-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Day 1 purchase.

Amake
10-05-2011, 11:46 PM
This is more along the lines of kids running around their neighborhood playing cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians. I don't see how that's not a simulator teaching folks how to conduct Blackwater military operations

Professor Smarmiarty
10-06-2011, 02:14 AM
You can't shoot civilians because the other side doesn't have any. They are all enemy combatants.

Aerozord
10-06-2011, 02:45 AM
I dont see how that matters, lots of war games lack civilians to shoot. One of the reasons GTA took off, was that having non-enemies to hurt was rather novel.

Now personally I don't view the group any differently then any other military group. Not saying they didn't do horrible things, just that they did the same horrible things as any other military entity in the history of the human race.

But its rather pretentious for any group to make a video game about themselves. Its like saying "now I know we are awesome, and I know you know we are awesome, so let me give you the gift of pretending to be me."

Magus
10-06-2011, 12:53 PM
Haha, Smarty's referring to the fact that the Blackwater folks indiscriminately fired into crowds of civilians supposedly because they viewed everyone in Iraq as an enemy combatant, be they unarmed, women, children, etc. I.e. there are no civilians, everyone shot was an "enemy combatant" despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Also I think they are worse than any other military group (well, actual government military groups, I guess they are on par with other mercenaries around the world) because they are paid with our tax dollars six times the amount of a regular soldier but don't have to answer to government oversight, so they escape punishment time and again for crimes they commit. And they committed a load of crimes.

So yeah it's like "we are infamous for gunning down civilians, let's make a game about how badass we are" as you say it's not only pretentious but kind of sick.

Seil
10-06-2011, 04:25 PM
What, you mean I can't rape people in this game? Guess I have to stick with my Japanese stuff, then.

Fifthfiend
10-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Anyone who buys or plays this game is a monster.

Day 1 purchase.

Oh hey there Krylo how's it going.

Kim
10-06-2011, 06:23 PM
I saw it at E3 actually. Unfortunately, only PR people were around at the time, so I couldn't ask the creators, "What the fuck were you thinking?"

Flarecobra
10-06-2011, 06:39 PM
...Wow.

Day One Budget Bin materal there.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche
10-06-2011, 07:14 PM
I saw it at E3 actually. Unfortunately, only PR people were around at the time, so I couldn't ask the creators, "What the fuck were you thinking?"

Did you see enough of it to know if it has regenerating health?
If so, it's confirmed for casualshit.

Krylo
10-06-2011, 07:17 PM
I'm a little sad they apparently removed civilians.

They should have made it a bonus stage. To get like... I dunno, 1-ups or something if you get enough points. They could even delineate different point scores to different types of civilians. And body parts.

Marc v4.0
10-06-2011, 07:57 PM
I'm a little sad they apparently removed civilians.

They should have made it a bonus stage. To get like... I dunno, 1-ups or something if you get enough points. They could even delineate different point scores to different types of civilians. And body parts.

Don't hate yourself, this sounds more like Blackwater:The Video Game then the Shit they are trying to farm.

Mr.Bookworm
10-06-2011, 08:54 PM
"What the fuck were you thinking?"

http://www.wpclipart.com/money/bag_of_money.png

Kim
10-07-2011, 12:53 AM
Why on Earth would they make a video game if they want money. No amount of money they could ever hope to make off the game could ever compare to how much Blackwater gets paid by the US government.

Magus
10-07-2011, 01:33 AM
Why on Earth would they make a video game if they want money. No amount of money they could ever hope to make off the game could ever compare to how much Blackwater gets paid by the US government.

Well it's the founder of Blackwater who I dunno probably sold all of his stock in the company off the day before it was found out that soldiers in his organization had raped/murdered/pillaged their way to the top of the list of bloodthirsty bastards.

So even if he made a tidy profit back then he may or may not own stocks in Xe Security (the current name of Blackwater), BUT he does own the rights to the trademarked name "Blackwater" so might as well make incredibly tasteless videogames out of it to try and make some money.

Plus since it is clearly targeted at children (unlike all the M-rated games out there we actually have somebody confirming that yes they do indeed want teenage boys to play as bloodthirsty mercenaries in order to train them to become bloodthirsty mercenaries) maybe he actually believes you can train people to become bloodthirsty mercenaries virtually and he can get children to I dunno hope and pray that one day they too can serve in Xe Security or some other mercenary company.

Mr.Bookworm
10-07-2011, 04:08 AM
Why on Earth would they make a video game if they want money. No amount of money they could ever hope to make off the game could ever compare to how much Blackwater gets paid by the US government.

I was referring to the developers.

I have no idea what Prince is thinking. Probably hoping it'll score them some good press.

CABAL49
10-07-2011, 06:08 AM
The fact that he keeps point out that it isn't a PR thing makes me thing that it is a PR thing. Like the other games released by the military, it is the chest-bumping bravado to indoctrinate kids that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. The killing of minions as he calls it, is simply to show how awesome they are and how they are the good guys. Even though they are terrible terrible people.