Chrono Trigger coming to the iPhone

[Jagos]

Link (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/21/chrono-trigger-heads-to-ios-next-month/)

Square Enix continues its campaign to put Chrono Trigger on every single device you own, with the announcement of a version for Leapster iPhone.

The Square Enix Members blog reveals that an iOS release of the classic RPG will be available "before the end of December." No price was announced, but Square Enix tends to be bold with iPhone RPG pricing: Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions debuted at $16, and even the port of Final Fantasy is $9.

Somehow, a game that's 20+ years old, coming out on the iPhone, making few if any adjustments to it, then putting it for over 10 friggin dollars on a system that's known for $1 apps, doesn't quite settle with me.

First, Square is most assuredly out of their damn minds to have FFT for $16. The game may be great, but damn... It is TEN FRIGGIN DOLLARS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SSPH3E/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00002SVWG&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=11Q0BX75WQT7X5C0SG2V) on another console! And looking at the reviews of Square's other games on the iPhone, people complain about the choppy framerate and other bugs that lead to a poor porting of the title. You don't have the option to flip the screen in other titles, along with no multitasking support, combat memory, etc.

So why should I pay overly high prices for a game that's better on other consoles? THINK Square, THINK! I know it's hard for you, but it helps us comprehend what goes through your tiny monopolistic minds.

[Betty Elms]

So why should I pay overly high prices for a game that's better on other consoles? THINK Square, THINK! I know it's hard for you, but it helps us comprehend what goes through your tiny monopolistic minds.
More people own iPhones than PSPs, and a PSP costs more than 6 dollars.

[Seil]

Then again, so does an iPhone.

[Marc v4.0]

More people own iPhones than PSPs, and a PSP costs more than 6 dollars.

You can also do more with your iPhone besides glare at it in disgust and regret

[Fifthfiend]

This is way too much anger over a game being ten dollars instead of five dollars that SHOULD be anger that this is probably the shitty translation version with those shitty endings that handcuff the game to fucking Cross.

Fucking, fucking Cross.

[Ryong]

It's been this long since the last Chrono Trigger discussion? Dang.

Yeah but anyway, I'm honestly surprised Square hasn't decided to make an actual "upgraded" version of Chrono Trigger yet - like the numerous graphically enhanced* versions of FF1, FF2 and FF4.

On Final Fantasy Tactics: To be fair, the PSP version has crappy loading times whenver you do anything for some bizarre reason. Maybe they'll fix that. Maybe.

*= *insert people raging over FF4DS' 3D*

[Locke cole]

I'm of the opinion that the party stopped Dalton in the timeline in which they fought him in the bonus dungeons, and Cross happened in a split-off timeline.

Mainly because I actually haven't played Cross, and it insults everyone's intelligence to assume that they wouldn't be able to nip his plan in the bud when he blatantly told them what and where (and they have a time machine, so "when" doesn't matter). And the game says "multiple timelines exist", so yeah.

Cross aside, I like the DS translation. And I think it's fine being 10 bucks. That's less than a quarter of what I paid for it on DS, after all.

[Ryong]

As I may have already said before:

All endings for Chrono Trigger are canon. It's the nature of the game. Cross is what happens in one timeline and Lavos somehow finds out that it can mix timelines together and then proceeds to screw with everything.

[ZARAK]

Finally, something decent to play on the iPhone, if I didn't already have the superior DS port... and were gullible enough to purchase an iPhone in the first place.

[DarkDrgon]

a bit off topic, but cross is now on the PS store... I'm tempted to buy it, but these threads always make me question that

[POS Industries]

As I may have already said before:

All endings for Chrono Trigger are canon. It's the nature of the game. Cross is what happens in one timeline and Lavos somehow finds out that it can mix timelines together and then proceeds to screw with everything.
That's still kinda shitty, though, because I don't want to play a sequel to a game that works under the assumption that I lost during my playthrough.

It's like if they made a sequel to Super Mario Bros wherein Mario and Luigi fell into that big pit on World 8-2 and died, resulting in the eventual fall of the Mushroom Kingdom, the horrible deaths of every character in the franchise, and Bowser transforming into a hideous monster bent on annihilating all of existence, and now I have to play as some jackass I've never heard of as all of this is slowly revealed to me. Then, years later, Nintendo re-releases Super Mario Bros with new levels that tie the two games together and charges me ten bucks to play it on a phone.

[Kerensky287]

Cross is a neat idea that could have been excellent if 1) they hadn't fucked over Trigger through plot implications, 2) they had cut the cast from infinity jillion down to the 8ish who have any plot relevance whatsoever, and 3) they had written better battle music.

Like, Cross supporters like to talk about how "oh you don't have to use the other ninety billion if you don't want to" but the fact is that each individual character acts as a development time vampire. They had people assigned to working out model assets, animation, game data, and dialog for a fiesty, middle-aged single mom (http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Macha), an animated voodoo doll (http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Mojo), and a turnip (http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Turnip). Every single one of the characters I mentioned could literally be taken out of the game entirely - like, scribbled over in each of their appearances in crayon - and NOTHING WOULD CHANGE.

Cross was a case of trying to do too much with too little preparation. A fresh remake/rethinking would have the potential to be excellent, especially if they manage to include the Chrono Trigger cast in a manner beyond "Oop, they died somehow."

[Locke cole]

I still don't get the anger over paying 10 bucks to play it on the iphone. It's that, or 40 bucks to play it on the DS.

[Kim]

Yeah, rereleasing something and charging more than you're willing to pay for it is really meh. There are about half a million other ways to play Chrono Trigger.

[Ryong]

That's still kinda shitty, though, because I don't want to play a sequel to a game that works under the assumption that I lost during my playthrough.

It's like if they made a sequel to Super Mario Bros wherein Mario and Luigi fell into that big pit on World 8-2 and died, resulting in the eventual fall of the Mushroom Kingdom, the horrible deaths of every character in the franchise, and Bowser transforming into a hideous monster bent on annihilating all of existence, and now I have to play as some jackass I've never heard of as all of this is slowly revealed to me. Then, years later, Nintendo re-releases Super Mario Bros with new levels that tie the two games together and charges me ten bucks to play it on a phone.

Aside from Partners in Time, Mario games don't have anything to do with time travel, which is the whole point of the thing.

I'm also wondering when was Lavos ever not a being of mass destruction.

I'm not saying Cross is perfect, nor have I ever done so, but your metaphor could use some work.

[POS Industries]

Aside from Partners in Time, Mario games don't have anything to do with time travel, which is the whole point of the thing.

I'm also wondering when was Lavos ever not a being of mass destruction.

I'm not saying Cross is perfect, nor have I ever done so, but your metaphor could use some work.
No, it works fine, because it's using an example of something else in a semi-related medium with comical changes to liken it to the real-world developmental process involved with the subject at hand. If you wanted me to compare it to something exactly like Chrono Cross, then an analogy wouldn't have been used so much as me just plainly stating that Cross is a pretty terrible sequel, which wouldn't have been as fun.

But if you liked fun, you wouldn't be defending Chrono Cross. DOHOHOHO!

[Ryong]

...Is that what you're going with? Seriously?

I didn't know I was dealing with people from /v/.

[Marc v4.0]

CHRONO THREAD

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[POS Industries]

...Is that what you're going with? Seriously?

I didn't know I was dealing with people from /v/.
I take offense to that. No one on /v/ has ever tried to be funny.

[Fifthfiend]

No, it works fine, because it's using an example of something else in a semi-related medium with comical changes to liken it to the real-world developmental process involved with the subject at hand. If you wanted me to compare it to something exactly like Chrono Cross, then an analogy wouldn't have been used so much as me just plainly stating that Cross is a pretty terrible sequel, which wouldn't have been as fun.

But if you liked fun, you wouldn't be defending Chrono Cross. DOHOHOHO!

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[Jagos]

I still don't get the anger over paying 10 bucks to play it on the iphone. It's that, or 40 bucks to play it on the DS.

It's not coming out for $10. That's a range of the prices, which can span from $10 to $16 for an iPhone game, which makes no sense. No additional content, a cheaply made port to smartphones, far superior ports on other systems, glitchy graphics and monopolistic pricing are a few of the problems with this port. If the reviews of Square's other games are any indication, it's not worth the price that Square is asking.

[Marc v4.0]

Don't buy it?

[BitVyper]

Don't buy it?

That doesn't really address the issue of Square milking inferior ports of its old games unless he does something like... post his feelings on the issue to convince other people not to buy it. You know, like he just did.

[Marc v4.0]

That doesn't really address the issue either, Square clearly already doesn't give a damn about advancing this or listening to the fans that.

I doubt any of us need convincing not to buy shitty ports.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Oh, so THAT'S why people think Chrono Cross is terrible. All these years I just thought it was a shitty game that andvanced on the first game's events with an absolutely unimaginative and boring story. Turns out it's all about arguing which canon is more canon. Shit. This is fucking genius, I have to play Chrono Cross as soon as I can find it.

I will not.