Batman Mafia

[Moogle0119]

My bans are my own, thus I would not expect anyone to carry them over (unless they wanted to, that's up to each individual GO though). Only reason I decided a perma-ban is because if it's just a simple mod kill, then that's more just an incentive for the cheaters to not get caught NEXT game (since they'll only have to wait a few weeks or so depending). Unfortunately, as Nikose has admitted, there have been games prior to this where he has been caught and it's still happening. Whereas if being caught cheating is a perma-ban, then I don't think anyone will try anything regardless. And yeah, I think Nikose (you're free to comment btw as is anyone else, player or not) was the only one that actually understood half the references I put into the posts.

Day 1. Solomon Grundy died at his swamp and I managed to reference his associated nursery rhyme in the lynch post.

Night 1. Fenris's target was Hush (Aldurin). I put a clue in it (noted by Scarecrow's nursery rhyme with the first word being "Hush", which was also the same nursery rhyme he sang in the storyline "Hush"). Also Night 1, the fight between Batman and Bane was extremely similar to the one that happened in Batman: TAS.

Day 2. Well Barbara Gordon getting lynched was an attempt to replay the events of the Joker ambushing her at her home from The Killing Joke (answering the door and falling through the glass table).

Night 2. Not a whole lot I could come up with here honestly, I tried to just make a halfway decent fight scene between Batman and Jason Todd that ended with them both dying. If either had lived, I know I definitely could've came up with a better conclusion, so I unfortunately just had to make do with something that was easily understood by the rest of the players (by referencing the last line about how the police concluded they killed each other).

Day 3. Ehh...honestly I didn't have a whole lot here either, just tried to make it seem like a reasonable conclusion that most of Batman's enemies would've done if they had seen a dude with Bruce Wayne's face (and they all knew Bruce Wayne = Batman).

Night 3. As awesome as the Riddler is, I wasn't about to try to concoct some elaborate trap thing in a night post, so I settled with just a simple bank robbery. The part I enjoyed writing the most was hinting at who the new person was (Nightwing).

Day 4. Black Mask, pretty simple here and not much I could do with him anyway honestly.

Night 4. Almost scene for scene and word for word recreation of the ending to the Killing Joke, except replace Nightwing with Batman along with a few of his lines.

Night 5. I just redid the same spot with Harley Quinn and made up some stuff.

Day 6. Haha, this one was difficult. The only exposure I have at all to Calendar Man is from the Long Halloween and Dark Victory along with the recent Batman: Arkham Asylum and Arkham City games (plus what little I gained from reading a few wikis). Sadly the character isn't used much and this was all I was able to come up with for the lynch post.

Night 6. Just something I made up again.

Night 7. I was getting frustrated with the lack of participation honestly here and decided "Fuck it, nobody's playing or even reading this shit anymore anyway" (with the players allowing 2 no lynches and discussion pretty much nearly stopped except for 2-3 players).

The final Day/Night post was something else I made up again, minus the line "I believe in Gotham City" (again, the Long Halloween page 1, first line from Bruce Wayne).

[Moogle0119]

P.S. For those of you that were wondering, the SK role had absolutely no stipulations or anything regarding going after the Joker (and vice versa). It just seemed incredibly appropriate from a storytelling perspective, but it was awesome to see everyone speculate on it. For those of you that don't know, look into the Under the Hood storyline where Jason Todd takes up the role (previously, he was Batman's 2nd Robin, before being beaten nearly to death by the Joker with a crowbar).

[Nikose Tyris]

I'm sad you got frustrated, I was following the thread explicitly for the night kill posts!

[Wizardcat]

We were just being idiots. It has come up once or twice in the past where I've been guilty of this and it was really, really obvious, and WAS in a game-breaking capacity [House of Cards] but the result was a funny ending, so everyone seemed to be cool with it.
I think you meant horrible, not funny. There's a reason you're on my personal mafia ban list. Not that I actually run (or even play) mafia anymore, anyway, so it doesn't really even matter, I guess. Yay.

On the actual game, I want to note that no-lynching when there was four players left (and since the game didn't end, only one mafiate left) was actually optimal play since it was MyLo, and forcing the remaining mafiate to off a suspect before the last lynch increases the chance of town victory.

[BahamutFlare]

For all those that knew who was scum and knew I was scum. It's a lot harder to tell when you're playing the game. Play the next mafia game and prove how good you are at a selected role. You also have to convince everyone and be prepared for counter-arguments. If you stated why you thought I was scum, do you think I could convince you I wasn't?

And this was my first win! I'm pumped. I've been self-aligned, town, and mafia twice. Mafia is the least fun in my opinion. I like having no knowledge rather than all the knowledge. My preference.

Moogle, your night posts were brilliant. And I loved each one. Especially the Batman vs Jason. And the last lynch was a neat story to end the game. I will praise this forever.

[Fenris]

Yeah, I'm really sorry that I cheated. It was wrong of me.

I can make excuses (I was having a bad day, etc.) but I am held to a higher standard due to my position here.

Shame on me.

[phil_]

For all those that knew who was scum and knew I was scum. It's a lot harder to tell when you're playing the game. Play the next mafia game and prove how good you are at a selected role. You also have to convince everyone and be prepared for counter-arguments. If you stated why you thought I was scum, do you think I could convince you I wasn't?In a perfect world (one where I am supreme ruler of everything), I would play the next mafia game. Unfortunately, I am awful at regulating my time, and thus can't involve myself in Mafia and RPs and stuff because I will fail my classes if I do.

That said, I totally wouldn't have voted to lynch you. You did a super job of staying low-key. Like, somewhere in the first three days I sorta suspected you a little, but I suspected Oron just as much. Then you shook that off in the confusion after Nikose's stuff happened. You did a super job of keeping suspicion off of your while still remaining active. Clap clap clap for you!

[Aldurin]

Final note from me: Miller roles suck, period. I can see it possibly being a counterbalance for a second power or something (some sort of role that needs to have shaky credibility to make the claim hard to follow) but by itself it's just . . . fuck.

Dammit Moogle.

[Nique]

I am the night.

The Red Hood/ Batman murder suicide pact was pretty awesome, but I was disappointing to have to quit playing so early since I thought I was hiding pretty well.

I have to ask - Hawk, did you target me because I caught your SK role, or did you really think I was part of Batman Inc.?

[Geminex]

I actually really liked the posts as well. I have little-to-no batman knowlege, so they were really kinda wasted on me, but I still enjoyed reading them.

Ooh, and moogle gave me all my investigation results in rhyme.
Nikose was
"Riddle me this,
riddle me that.
Who is the student
of the bat?"

Don't remember the other two.

Also, re: game bans, I don't think I'll exclude Nikose when it's time for my game. I'm not so sure about Marius, though. Whatever his reasons, I really feel like he hurt his team's interests when he froze Nikose twice, and that's not cool.

Mind you, he doesn't seem very active, so I don't think he'll even want to join.

Anyway, yeah, good game, and congrats to scum for kicking our asses.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I am the night.

The Red Hood/ Batman murder suicide pact was pretty awesome, but I was disappointing to have to quit playing so early since I thought I was hiding pretty well.

I have to ask - Hawk, did you target me because I caught your SK role, or did you really think I was part of Batman Inc.?

You and BF were on my shortlist of 4 possible targets. I can't remember who the other 2 were now. You and BF were at the top due to the possible WIFOM situations I could create.

BF was there because he was suspicious of me, and when he asked for an explaination he said he was satisfied with what I'd said, which made him a perfect person for me to kill, because it would have made no sense for me to kill him.

You on the other hand, were still totally suspicious of me, so killing you off was great too, because that would have been a stupid thing for me to do and I could argue I was being framed by the real SK.

I had also contemplated not killing anyone that night, to throw you all off and maybe make you think you'd already frozen the SK or they'd gone inactive for the night. This would have also helped to create a null tell had I been frozen by Freeze the next day, because the lack of kills wouldn't have proven anything and would have rendered Freeze practically useless for the rest of the game.

I can't actually remember why I settled on you in the end, though I had a lot of trouble figuring out the best plan (Moogs will tell you, I changed my mind like 3 times).

And it was all for nought anyway because you killed me 2 days in a row, bastard. :argh:

[Moogle0119]

Oh yeah, the Riddler's investigations were pretty fun too.

Night 1.
Got home just in time, eh?

Investigate Nikose.
Riddle me this
Riddle me that.
Who is the student
Of the Bat?

Nikose, Tim Drake (Robin)

Night 2.
Investigate Oron, pray I don't get murderified

What's green, red, and impossibly alluring?
Yet so deadly, poisonous that's unlikely to be curing?

Oron, Pamela Lillian Isley (Poison Ivy) Arkham Asylum aligned

and Night 3.
Investigate P-Sleazy.
What else would rhyme
With the clown prince of crime?

P-Sleazy, The Joker Arkham Asylum aligned

A note on the millers. I do indeed hate the miller role, like I said I hate any role that actively screws a player over like that, so I tried counter balancing it with immunity the the main mafia don. Plus like I said, I couldn't think of a better ability/role to give the Hush character, and it totally fit from a story perspective too. Maybe I should've just stuck him as a vanilla townie, but it was cool to give Aldurin that option I mentioned earlier (whether to claim immediately or not and hope to waste mafia hits on himself).

I'm actually very happy you guys enjoyed the posts then. Even if you're not a huge Batman geek, my hope was for it to keep your interest and even possibly get you interested into the comics themselves. Either way though, it was fun.

P.S. Here was the Night 1 action from Fenris, before he got SK'd.

Terrify Aldurin.
Aldurin's fear: Never fulfilling his revenge on Bruce Wayne.

I tried to keep the fears vague enough that it wouldn't single any character out ever (and also not step on the PO's role too much), but enough to give the roleblocker some idea. Unfortunately it only got used one time.

Double Edit: And yeah, and here were Hawk's original messages from Night 2.

SK Kill: BahamutFlare

On second thoughts, scratch that

Take no action tonight

And finally...

On second thoughts, scratch that

Take no action tonight
No worries on the change, I'll take whatever you've last given me when the time is up or everyone else's night actions are in. If you change your mind again just let me know (currently you'll be targetting nobody for Night 2).

Gah, I don't think any of my plans are ging to work at this point, therefore;

Kill: Nique
If it helps I'll wait til the 48 hour period is up. Normally I would just go ahead and proceed as soon as I receive all night roles, but honestly I feel bad RO blew up the way he did and practically outted himself and you got stuck with the role (on the flip side though, I didn't want to just suicide his character during the day either though).

I'll wait until the 48 hour period is up unless you insist otherwise.

Nah it's ok, I'll stick with this now. I have a plan, whether it works or not is another question.

Of course, I already knew he was screwed anyway since Nique had already sent in the kill against him.

[Moogle0119]

Edit 2: Also, my Geminex defense of "Nah Nigma gets it wrong" was fucking painful to even try and say for the reason under Edit #1.
I remember when this happened and I had to really restrain the comic nerd in me from pointing out that you were just flat out wrong with this since Riddler is the true mastermind behind the original Hush storyline with having been the one to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne, but it just killed me that nobody even bothered to look into it at the time to verify whether or not you were telling the truth.

P.S. Yes, Tim Drake is the best Robin (and also the only other person to get called "Detective" by Ra's al Ghul himself). Screw all the haters!

[Nikose Tyris]

Tim Drake is the BEST Robin and I totally role-requested it. :D

[IHateMakingNames]

I remember when this happened and I had to really restrain the comic nerd in me from pointing out that you were just flat out wrong with this since Riddler is the true mastermind behind the original Hush storyline with having been the one to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne, but it just killed me that nobody even bothered to look into it at the time to verify whether or not you were telling the truth.
I noticed that he was wrong about that. I was dead at the time.

Also at that point everyone was already going to kill Nikose. They probably didn't care.

[BahamutFlare]

My favorite part was when Hawk died N1 and N2. If you couldn't get anymore pleasure from him dying right away the first night, you could watch it happen all over again! ;P I truly am sorry that RO outed himself though. At least you got in two days though!

Q: Did town have a Vig? If not, who was the vig supposed to be? Or why wasn't one incorporated? This made the SK's ability pointless didn't it? since lynch, SK, and mafia were the only ways to kill.

[Moogle0119]

No the town didn't have a Vig. I purposefully took the Vig role out for 2 reasons. 1 being that I had already added in a few other roles more than I originally wanted (with keeping it a low-powered mafia game). Mainly I'm referring to the Miller and Roleblocker who I was toying with the idea of whether I should include them or not. The second reason was also because I couldn't decide on which villain should be nominated the Vig.

Plus if I had added a Vig in the game, the game would've been shorter and originally I wanted to have very few killing roles in the game (just mafia and SK). Also if everyone hadn't lynched the Bodyguard on Day 1, there might have been a few saved kills during the night even.

What ability of the SK's was pointless?

[BahamutFlare]

He was immune to all night kills but the mafia. Mafia was the only people that could NK him right? Or was he immune to everything night? except the mafia night kill?

[Inbred Chocobo]

That was the miller, which was Aldy.

[BahamutFlare]

the serial killer (RO/Hawk2) which I gave him immunity to night kills from everyone EXCEPT Batman

This: Seems pointless. The only person that can kill him but Batman. Or did that mean I as Nighthawk couldn't kill him if Nique/Batman died.

[Moogle0119]

It means Nique was the only one that could kill him at night. If Nique was dead, then Nightwing (you) would not have been able to successfully perform a night kill on him. Same goes for Nikose or Karesh if they were the ones performing the night kill.