Star Trek Online went Free-to-Play some time ago and we're still talking about it

[POS Industries]

Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of POS Industries. His continuing mission: To convince the lot of you to nerd it up with him in Star Trek Online for the low, low cost of absolutely fucking nothing!

On January 17, STO goes publicly free to play, with some notable limitations to those who haven't paid (http://www.startrekonline.com/f2p_features), of course. It mostly follows the same model as Champions Online, where you get some nice extras for having a regular subscription and many of the other goodies are available via microtransactions, but none of these restrictions really limits one's ability to progress through the game, though it does make it a bit more of a pain in the ass. Also, anyone who previously had a paid subscription can begin playing for free as of yesterday, which is what I have opted to do for the time being.

I'm also in a longstanding, active fleet (read: guild) full of nice people who are always looking for new members and I've got invite privileges. We also have ventrillo if you want to turn off the crappily integrated Vivox voice chat that will be pumping ads in your ear constantly so long as you aren't a paid subscriber and fleets for both Federation and Klingon players. This is especially a plus as, at endgame, cross-faction teaming has been made available for the special task force missions (read: instances), which has really been a boon to the experience of playing Klingon-side.

So, any interest here?

[Kim]

I can't decide if I want to be a Sith or a Bounty Hunter.

[POS Industries]

I recommend Death Knight, personally.

[Fifthfiend]

No I'm not going to join your anime club.

[POS Industries]

You just mad cuz you're not kawaii enough.

[synkr0nized]

I've been planning on playing it, but I can't say that I'll care much beyond poking around and doing some missions with friends. I've heard it's really boring when you are just traveling around.

But it may hold my interest, who knows?

[Flarecobra]

I'll play. Anything free appeals to me nowadays. Especally if it's multiplayer and it's in a genre I enjoy.

[CABAL49]

What if you had a subscription?

But really this might bring me back into it. My fleet dissolved due to inactivity, so I am a free agent. That is, if you don't want a sovereign class in your fleet. I got other ships too. It's cool. Take a break from SWTOR to return to STO.

[POS Industries]

If you had a subscription, you can jump right back in today for free. So far I haven't found that you lose anything from going to F2P after having a subscription, though I do seem to be missing a costume slot since today's patch, but I haven't been able to find anything to suggest what specifically is responsible there.

Anyway, a solid Sovereign captain should be more than welcome in our Fed fleet. Have you had any experience with Grand Imperial?

[BitVyper]

I can't decide if I want to be a Sith or a Bounty Hunter.

Which one gets a TARDIS?

[Flarecobra]

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[POS Industries]

CAPTAIN'S LOG
Stardate: Present day, present time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9lPWKuZ94o)

The gradual shift to the free-to-play model continues on, with both boons and disappointments. There are some undocumented limitations to F2Pers regarding things like costume slots and access to the user-generated Foundry missions, though in at least the latter case the official stance from Cryptic is that it's a bug. However, the current playerbase has already seen a noted increase from the returning players.

On the subject of returning players, I have encountered old friends over the past few days. Toastburner, who I hadn't realized played before, was puttering around the heart of Federation space. I've also convinced PhoenixFlame to make her return, and much fun has been had flying around killing basically everything with her.

On Klingon side, I took the opportunity to form a new fleet called The Dukes of Hazard Emitters, which should prove handy for any NPFers who happen to roll KDF characters. A Federation equivalent, most likely an incarnation of the NPFUU from Champions Online, should be easy enough to form. We may need to grab one or two random people to start it up, but that shouldn't be too hard so long as I pay them off well enough.

[synkr0nized]

Like I said, I'll be there. And I have a friend planning on poking around with me. I would be happy to do menial things if needed (if there are items like signing charters in WoW), though I totally understand if you're looking for a stronger commitment.

[Osterbaum]

I will consider this.

[Flarecobra]

Say, maybe we can have the USS/IKW Pillar of Osterbaum then.

[Osterbaum]

Yes. I am in, as soon as my exams are over anyways.

[POS Industries]

Like I said, I'll be there. And I have a friend planning on poking around with me. I would be happy to do menial things if needed (if there are items like signing charters in WoW), though I totally understand if you're looking for a stronger commitment.
Fleets mostly entail having the name of the fleet above your head, an extra chat channel, an additional bank that all members have access to, a spiffy fleet uniform and emblem patch that we can design and choose whether or not we want to wear it, and no obligation to actually do anything at all or even join if you don't feel like it.

There's not really a huge amount of endgame content that requires precise organization and large amounts of manpower to complete like WoW or anything, so it'd mostly just be us dicking around.

[Flarecobra]

Yodadog should be our symbol.

[Fifthfiend]

So just as a hypothetical, would it be possible for me, playing this game, to make a ferengi character who owns a bar on a space station and then play this game by engaging in various crooked dealings, occasionally getting harassed by the Grand Nagus and at one point marrying a klingon?

Cause I would be all over that game.

edit: On reflection i'm plainly lying as if that were true I'd already be playing EVE.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, the most I can give you is that you can play a Ferengi and you can engage in crooked dealings, but as far as I'm aware they're features exclusive to opposing factions and you have to pay real life money to play a Ferengi.

Which when you think about it really does makes perfect sense.

[RobinStarwing]

Beam me up POS! Energize! Set Phasers to Stun! Raise Shields! Fire the Photon Torpedoes!

Yeah, grew up on Trek so count me in to come in and play, giving it a try. Been waiting for this! WARP FACTOR INFINITY!

EDIT: Of course that's assuming my Netbook can run it. CanIRunIt.com says I fail the minimum requirements. Anyone want to double check? I've got a Toshiba NB255 Netbook.

[Flarecobra]

It also said I can't run Simcity Socities and my Dawn of War games, yet I run them fine.

[RobinStarwing]

It also said I can't run Simcity Socities and my Dawn of War games, yet I run them fine.

Guess all I can do is try it. What is the worst that can happen?

[POS Industries]

What is the worst that can happen?
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[RickZarber]

Well, I went ahead and downloaded it. Don't know how much I'll play, as I already have SWTOR and LOTRO (and barely play them as it is). But I expect I'll at least futz around with it on F2P launch day.

[RobinStarwing]

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Thanks for the paranoia, POS.

[Flarecobra]

Tomarrow's the day.

[POS Industries]

Tonight's the night!

If anyone happens to start up an account and I'm not on, go ahead and add me (@Resz) to your friends list. I'll show up soon enough and now have two characters each (one max level, the other at starting level) on both factions, so I will be able to play in pretty much any form or fashion needed.

[Aldurin]

I'm tempted, so tempted. But I dunno.

[POS Industries]

Well, it's free, so it's not going to cost you anything either way.

[Aldurin]

Thing is, I've had bad experiences with the F2P section of the player base in MMO's (i.e. DDO players that hardly understand the basic concepts of an MMO or DnD). I'm really hoping I don't get washed away in a wave of derp.

[Flarecobra]

It's downloading now.

[RickZarber]

Fooled around with it for 3 hours or so. Character's name is Zarber, easy to find/remember. Dunno how often I'll be playing, but feel free to friend me.

EDIT: I guess it's technically Zarber@rickzarber ?
I don't really understand this yet.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Downloading now.

[Flarecobra]

Holyfuckballs... slow ass downloader. X_x

[Osterbaum]

Yes, it is. Could be a lot of traffic right now, I guess?

e: like so slow that I refer you to my avatar on that

[synkr0nized]

So

I crush things in the missions/take negligible damage, but I get overrun and owned in Fleet Actions if I don't stick with the rest of the ships. Is this normal? Like, I picked engineering so I could tank things, but I don't feel that I have much survivability (I am assuming the missions are weaksauce at first on purpose).

For what it's worth, I made Lt. Commander and got my tier 2 ship.

[Flarecobra]

I let it go since 11PM last night... and it's now 12:16PM. It just hit 60% downloaded.

[POS Industries]

So

I crush things in the missions/take negligible damage, but I get overrun and owned in Fleet Actions if I don't stick with the rest of the ships. Is this normal? Like, I picked engineering so I could tank things, but I don't feel that I have much survivability (I am assuming the missions are weaksauce at first on purpose).

For what it's worth, I made Lt. Commander and got my tier 2 ship.
Yeah, that's pretty normal. In fact, almost all the soloable content is a breeze on the normal setting, while anything requiring multiple players absolutely requires teamwork.

Also the specialization of each captain career and ship type really shines more at higher levels, as you'll have more innate abilities and bridge officer slots to better refine your build. At this point, you've only got a tiny amount of abilities available to you, so the idea of being a tank/healer/dps/whatever isn't really feasible. You just have to work with what you've got until you get more to work with.

[Flarecobra]

Sounds perfect for me. :D I've always loved having to figure out how to do stuff with limited resources.

[synkr0nized]

Fair enough. I will continue advancing!

Also everything on the auction house exchange is super expensive. I guess I will eventually make money?

[Melfice]

Fair enough. I will continue advancing!

Also everything on the auction house exchange is super expensive. I guess I will eventually make money?

Being entirely unfamiliar with the game, I would hazard a guess some of the more savvy players are artificially raising their prices to take advantage of the new Free To Play players who might not know the averages.

It's what I would do, if I hadn't any morals.

[POS Industries]

Plus as you level up, credits will become more plentiful, especially once you start undercutting all those bastards on the exchange yourself like I do.

[Osterbaum]

My download is currently at 86% so I expect to be playing for a bit later today. I'm under the name 'bastardbaum' because apparently 'osterbaum' was taken. That's the first time that's happened.

[Flarecobra]

Under the name "Flarecobra"

Currentally have a Centaur-class ship, intend on upgrading to a Saber-class soon.

[synkr0nized]

I am @synkr0nized if you want to add me (using the format of charactername@accountdisplayname).

[Osterbaum]

So is there like an official NPF sanctioned race we're all using and/or do we have to be the same race to form any kind of guild/fleet/whatevs?

e: Installing right now btw, will try it out a soon as ready. As I'm sure you'e all holding your breath awaiting me to grace the game with my presence.

[Flarecobra]

Sure hope not. *Rolled a custom alien*

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Rolled a Saurian science officer to get through my Federation playthrough.

[CABAL49]

When I stopped playing I was moderately wealthy. But since they changed the system I can't say. But if I still have the munnies I will totally help ya'll upgrade your equipment.

Edit: Downloading. Still won't be on much now.

[Osterbaum]

Ok, so Captain Kraskel of the U.S.S. Menkat (teehee). I had some minor problems at the beginning, but I think my account name is josterbaum and my user name is osterbaum. And then of course my character name is Kraskel.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Character goes by Fare, currently of the U.S.S Hermosa.

EDIT: Account name should be shyriadracnoir, display name is npfshyria

[Loyal]

So it turns out the game runs a bit better than I expected it would. Not as well as I'd like, but certainly well enough I think.
Rolled a Saurian science officer to get through my Federation playthrough.
And coincidentally this is what I rolled. Loyal (loyalnpf) of the U.S.S. Fullerene.

[POS Industries]

Before work today I finally got around to respeccing my max-level Andorian tac officer (Resz) and coming up with a new bridge officer loadout that should be more than adequate for playing tour guide to the stars for any Fed players. I've also got a Bajoran engineer (Tera) at lieutenant if we find that my one-shotting everything is hella borings, though.

On KDF, my main is an alien engineer (Kimzi the Butcher), and I've got a Commander-level Klingon sci officer named Bihl'nai as well.

[CABAL49]

So apparently the last place I logged out was in a pvp area. Which ended in a very onesided battle as the info on Duty Officers and the need to redo my skills wouldn't leave me alone. Rear Admiral Zehnoda@Kaizehn reporting in. I am pretty damn rusty though. Also new stuff. I am considering making a new character to learn the new things. Also I am the poorest Rear Admiral, as this new dilithium currency was not made available on my return.

[POS Industries]

Also, for anyone I haven't directly contacted yet, we have a chat channel set up that you can join by typing "/channel_join NPFU".

[Melfice]

Captain Silesius (account: MelficeSilesius, I think) of the USS Indori.

Although I'm still in the middle of the tutorial.

[synkr0nized]

Man

I am running duty rosters, going on away team missions, fixing diplomatic issues, and cruisin' around the galaxy at warp speeds. I can see the negatives of this game, but I certainly don't care about them right now. Being a Starfleet captain is great.

[Arcanum]

Kiero@HyperionMBD (I think, wasn't paying attention to my name that was showing up in the NPFU chat) of the U.S.S. Arcanum, reporting for duty!

I know next to nothing about Star Trek so to me this is all a blur of space, lasers, and weird looking aliens.

[Flarecobra]

I've since renamed my ship to something a little easior to remember: The USS Coral Sea.

[Loyal]

Is anyone else's game client crashing when they try to load after character-selection?

EDIT: has been resolved

[Osterbaum]

So far having quite a lot of fun with this game. Missions have been fun and interesting enough, some good moments. Seems to be a bit of a difference in difficulty between some of them though.

I am now playing Commander Kraskel(@Osterbaum), Captain of the U.S.S. O'Neill a Cheyenne Dakota class cruiser.

[synkr0nized]

I know the character creation options have let players make all kinds of things, ranging from interesting, through boring/uninspired, and into bizarre, but I really want to bring my Klingon general to the Earth Spacedock to put down this unfortunate creature:

http://home.comcast.net/~synkr0nized/screenshots/lolsto.jpg

[Flarecobra]

And I had a crossdresser.

She got better though.

[synkr0nized]

Also, there ain't no party like a Cover Shield party.

http://home.comcast.net/~synkr0nized//screenshots/lolsto2.jpg


This game definitely has its faults, but fuck that. I'm a God Damned fleet admiral / Lt. General, calling down the thunder upon all who stand in my way.

And, uh, doing that diplomatic thing here and there, too.


The rest of you f2p folks need to get to 50. We should do stuff.







Well, we should do stuff regardless.

[Osterbaum]

Stuff! I'm not all that far away from 50. Say, a week maybe?

[Flarecobra]

http://sadpanda.us/images/828109-NW1XPL3.jpg

I coded the numbers for handy referance. And I'll make up a chart later.

[synkr0nized]

Oh God, don't get too far into the forum. Went looking for general KDF advice and conversation and found [probably fat] guys singing in Klingon or something.


The constant whining at Cryptic is a little funny, though, especially since it seems far more deserved than, say, over at Blizzard's neck of the woods.

[Flarecobra]

Isn't that like, one of the main rules of MMOs?

[POS Industries]

Oh my god, the new flagships they launched yesterday are horrible. We have destroyed so many Odysseys with almost no difficulty whatsoever.

As for the Bortas, I've yet to see a KDF player foolish enough to take one into battle.

[POS Industries]

So we've finally started forming up a NPF fleet. The Dukes of Hazard Emitters, a joke fleet I started on a whim sometime last month, has been converted for use for any and all of our KDF characters. However, since the name was too long to be shown in its entirety, I changed it to A Big Corpse Party.

is everybody ok with that? do you want to have a big corpse party?

Of course you do.

[synkr0nized]

* air guitars *

[Flarecobra]

THAT'S what the Galor's always reminded me of!

An electric guitar!

[stefan]

I picked this up a few days ago, and its a lot better than I remember the trial demo I played months ago being. up to about level 16 so far, science officer riding cruisers because jesus christ the science vessels look retarded.

ED: I also seem to have accumulated 50 cardassian lockboxes in those 16 levels. I don't even.

[POS Industries]

The boxes are worthless. You can't even eat them. Believe me, I tried.

On a related note, I need a dentist. Badly.

[synkr0nized]

Is there any chance that the boxes will be "worth" anything on the Exchange after they have stopped dropping for a while? This is the only reason I have kept any. Having gotten the Galor after only opening two boxes with in-game money (I kind of wanted to post about that in all the "omg I have spent so much money with no reward" threads on their forum, but eh), I have been wondering if there's any way for me to make money of them before I just toss them out the airlock. But even while passing on them in groups and not usually picking them up in missions, I probably have a few hundred.


I am also trying to figure out if I like the Deep Space Science Vessel or not. I may like it more if it can handle cannons.


Also, crafting is both easy to level and disappointing. I am not wasting all that dilithium on unreplicateable materials for mediocre, at best, energy credit gains. It's a hundred times more cost-effective to just Borg-up and then play until I get tech drops.

[Flarecobra]

Synk, if you have any other keys, I'll take them. I got an asston of boxes I'd like to open up for some shits and giggites.

[stefan]

I think the main obstacle to the boxes ever being valuable is that everybody has way more of them than they'll ever need.

seriously, I'd need like 60 bucks in cryptic points to open all these boxes, fuck that.

[POS Industries]

Well, the green Cardassian Lockboxes are going to be worthless forever. However, the blue Mystery Packages might have some greater value down the road after this event is over. Apparently the plan to continue selling the keys and have them open different event crates as time goes on, so they aren't going to become completely worthless after the event is over.

[PhoenixFlame]

I guess I should probably post here and tell you all that I exist and am awesome. Granted, those of you who already logged in know that, so whatever.

As for crafting, yeah... It's pretty bad, but fortunately you can make purple mkXI stuff with it that isn't [borg]. Why you'd want stuff that isn't [borg] considering how many of them you fight is beyond me, but you know, PVP and all that.

Speaking of PVP, I got my breen ship kill accolade for blowing up a federation ship using the breen set. I was amused. I'm sad the game doesn't track ship kills in general, because I bet I have over 10,000 starfleet player ships to my name. Seriously, you just need to decloak and they throw themselves at you like lemmings.

[synkr0nized]

Synk, if you have any other keys, I'll take them. I got an asston of boxes I'd like to open up for some shits and giggites.

I don't have any keys. I had bought a couple ships before the event and used the random handful of points (I could not get anything else in the store with them, and a key is the cheapest thing) to get my first key for a gold box. I opened that to get some thing (I don't even remember what it was) that I sold for a seven million EC. When I got my second gold box I used the EC to buy a key and see if I could make more millions only to instead get the ship. I haven't bought a key since.


I've been selling the blue mystery boxes, 'cause whenever I had opened those it was just more green lockboxes.



I have done all of my ground missions on my fed science officer as a medic. I feel like there's less damage going around, but that's only because I am not dishing it out personally. The lack of deaths and smooth sailing leads me to believe her crew actually is pretty quick. I really like the one science kit that gives you an AoE snare, radiation dot, and fire blast though, too. In any case, I would be excited to run some ground things with you all and heal to see if that is at all viable against Borg. Or if I am any good at it. I may be too attached to, erm... addons for knee-jerk reaction-healing. Though I never started using those until raids, so I did hotkeys and party portraits for 5-mans.



Anywho, check you cats in-game. We'll get some STF time and then I think we should somehow descend upon Kerr'at some more.

[synkr0nized]

OK gave up on the Deep Space for now and have the Galor and MVAM for DPS/PvE/STF shit on my fed sci. Oh God the MVAM is such a beast regardless of captain career. Some time I want to make the Deep Space into a PvP monster, but I will need help with that.

[PhoenixFlame]

The first thing you need to understand when hopping into a sci ship for PVP is that you're not going to kill anyone, and you're not going to tank spectacularly either. It's a pretty distressing feeling because you lack the weapons and the hull strength and engineering slots to fight on the most basic level. Your job however, is neither of these. You want to find the fleet's focused target and mess it up so it dies. Anyone familiar with the EWAR ships in EVE online will be friends with this technique.

Sci breaks into about 3 or 4 major fields...

Holds/Knocks, Zone Control: Tractor beam, tractor repulsors, gravity well, and the like. Hold people down so they can't escape, break balls by pushing ships apart, and generally cause havoc on positioning. Requires you know what good and bad positioning is in the first place, however. Works well with you integral Beam: Target engines

Shield Stripping: Tach beam, Photonic Shockwave, Charged Particle Burst, and various other skills that deal straight shield damage let you bust tanks in ways you can't do with weapons. Add in beam target shields, and go to town. This is actually really, really effective. Feds are great at it cause these are their cloak detectors too.

Energy Drain: Using powers like energy drain, tyken's rift, siphon drones, ect. Basically cripples all aspects of the target making them more likely to die and not kill. Great, but ultimately not a federation specialty. KDF has much better drain powers. Beam target anything adds hurt to what you intend to disable.

Don't Phase Me Bro: Feedback pulse, TSS, Hazards... The typical things you think of when tanking a sci ship. You want these, but not too many of these. It's hard to get a feel for it, but you need just enough tank to live, and then as much 'black magic' of your chosen field above as you can pack in the ship.

Basically, you cripple someone so your escort can hammer him for the kill. This is why Sciscorts like the M-VAE and Bird of Prey are so nice, you can actually do your own damage. You can't pack many disables on them, but what you do pack is instantly followed up on. My BoP for example is mainly an energy drainer with two holds. Decloak, cripple, tackle, kill.

[POS Industries]

Just wanted to note that Photonic Shockwave falls into the first catagory, not the second. It's a stun and knockback that deals hull damage, but does very little against shields. The hull damage itself isn't really the goal, however, as a well-timed stun can be a deadly way of halting another vessel's ability to heal long enough to get the kill.

This is particularly useful in the hands of a MVAE Prometheus, in my experience of being on the receiving end.

[CABAL49]

It feels like my weapons don't do as much damage as they did in the olden days. But I still have so much shields.

[PhoenixFlame]

Just wanted to note that Photonic Shockwave falls into the first catagory.

Derp. Shows how much I use that power.

[stefan]

god damn that klingon battleship from City on the Edge of Never is kicking my ass.

Admittedly, it probably has to do with being a science officer flying a heavy escort, but still.

[POS Industries]

All right, the Federation fleet, NPF Beach House, has been formed. Everyone that's currently in it has invite powers, so if any of us are on, we can bring you in. Just be sure to join the NPFU channel if you haven't already so we can all easily keep in contact.

[Osterbaum]

Man gotta get in on that.

[Azisien]

Just played through the tutorial of this. I'm kind of digging it.

[stefan]

Just played through the tutorial of this. I'm kind of digging it.

it actually gets a whole lot better once you have a roster of 3 or 4 bridge officers to play with and you can do shenanigans like blow a hole in spacetime to fuck over groups of enemies or fire two dozen quantum torpedoes at everything in front of you.

[Flarecobra]

So I hit max level.

So now I'm poking around on my Orion character, Piron.

[synkr0nized]

We almost have enough for private queuing!
The Borg will never have a chance.


Well, they didn't anyway, but it's more fun playing with you all than random Trekkies.


edit: for example:

Also, I personally fly an Odyssey class, USS Trip. My forward is 2 beam array, 1 dual beam array, quantum torpedoes, AFT is 2 beam array, quantum mines, 1 Turret. 4 RCS accelerators, the bigger the cruiser, the worse the turn rate. Its nice to be able to dish some damage on a broadside so after one side of my shields has taken a pounding I can quickly switch to the side. Make sure you check your power levels before going into battle. It makes a difference.


I would love to see that ship in PvP. I would blow it up all the time. Wasting his defensive console slots to try to compensate for a terrible turn rate for the lose. At least he cycles power levels! Anyway, it's people like this that make the Odyssey, and other ships, so hated when they might not actually be that bad a design. And getting them in an STF PuG can be very :( .

[Azisien]

Things I liked: Shooter mode in ground stuff. Flying the ship feels good and warping around too.

Things I disliked: Couldn't seem to ram into Earth. Couldn't seem to ram into the Sun. Couldn't ram into my friend. HUD/Interface seems a little on the chunky side. I would also feel better if the interface and sounds were even more ridiculously Trekkie. Like if you had to hit an ENGAGE button to go to warp, and you got to set warp factors instead of just q/e'ing a throttle.

[stefan]

I rather like my ship setup at the moment. Akira with two dual heavy Plasma cannons up front with a quantum torpedo launcher, with a plasma bank and a quantum minelayer on the back. She'll disintegrate really goddamn quick in an extended fight, but anything in the front is in for pain.

[Flarecobra]

Replace that plasma bank (and perhaps that minelayer) with a turret, and you'll have more forward firepower, as turrets have a 360* firing arc.

What I'm running:

Type- Promethius class (custom Adv. Escort)

Fore weapons: Plasma array, dual heavy disrupter cannon, dual polaron cannon, plasma torp launcher.
Aft weapons: 2x Plasma Turrets, Hargh'peng Torp launcher.

Not the best for PVP, but I don't feel like I'm ready for that at all yet. What I got works for my PvE needs though.

[PhoenixFlame]

I would love to see that ship in PvP. I would blow it up all the time. Wasting his defensive console slots to try to compensate for a terrible turn rate for the lose. At least he cycles power levels! Anyway, it's people like this that make the Odyssey, and other ships, so hated when they might not actually be that bad a design. And getting them in an STF PuG can be very :( .

Oh good lord that is so horrible it's not even funny. Might aswell call it the 'USS Trippin' balls' as that's what he's doing. (Also he turns his ship to change shield facings, in an odyssey. *Laughinggirls.jpeg*)

This is the star trek online equivalent of "MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING" which is an old EVE online meme (EVE is mostly PVP) where a guy complained on the forums that his raven-class battleship got destroyed by an 'overpowered' ship and then proceeded to post the worst fail-fit any of us had ever seen.

Odysseys really are ravens... It's sad. (The Raven was a Caldari missile battleship, famous for the fact that it required absolutely no thought whatsoever to use, as missiles had no tracking issues or optimal range to deal with)

[Flarecobra]

... Goddamn transporter accidents.

[synkr0nized]

It has been noted that it could help to schedule a night for STFs. I mean, we can do them whenever, but if that would help pipe up I guess.

I know at least four of us are there.

Tomorrow night won't work for me; I will be out all evening.

[CABAL49]

I am trying to kick people out of my town. Once they are gone I would be more than happy to blow up some Borgs.

[POS Industries]

I'm available to STF and junk on most nights, barring my being too tired or just otherwise not feeling like playing.

[synkr0nized]

Escorts, man.

Playing in a Commander-level "Klingon Scouting Force" fleet action -- you know, one of the ones that starts with BoPs and frigates and slowly moves up through cruisers (and mines) to battlecruisers with the dreadnought group at the end?

Sittin' at work on my laptop [still at work, btw... woo grad school], taking a ten minute break, getting something like 2 fps in combat, and still got 2nd overall.

Tactical is so easy mode in some ways.


But anyway I miss you all :( Lookin' forward to some pew pew with you sometime this week.

[Flarecobra]

So I heard that the final mission of The 2800 gives a limited-edition award... where you can get two more yous to fight alongside you groundside....

And they're not holographic either... actual flesh-and-blood-or-whatever-your-character-is-made-of yous from other universes.

[synkr0nized]

Yup. (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2909)

[CABAL49]

It is pretty nifty. The last mission in generally was pretty cool.

[PhoenixFlame]

But anyway I miss you all :( Lookin' forward to some pew pew with you sometime this week.

Yeah, I miss you guys too. :( Not many people've been on lately and I've been grinding out elite STFs for gear. I managed to get Arina her Prototype PSG tech (^_^) but the others are just bleh. Thinking about giving up PUGging until I can con you into coming with me, as POS seemed to chicken out. :3:

But that's cool, I can understand why he doesn't want to play hard modo.

As for dem escorts, they're pretty sweet, not gonna lie. Starfleet escorts in particular are doomtrains when properly set up and used. Seeing as fleet actions are scored entirely on damage I pretty much always take 1st place as my tactical characters with basically no effort. Then again, I take 1st on my other characters too, it just requires some trickery.

Sci and Eng can still do some real soviet damage with the proper use of sensor scan or nadion inversion, but it does take some work.

Edit: Couple bugs with the shards that will probably never get fixed. The sharding effect actually confuses nearby enemies which is far more valuable than your clones. I use it on elite tactical drones in elite STFs to make them one-shot their allies, as turning the enemy's own OP weapons agaisnt themselves is fun for numerous families.

The untargettable effect is nice but generally never works as you're still vulnerable to AoE and all actually dangerous enemies spam AoEs. It also means if you're the last person in a bossfight and use it, the boss will lose target and reset the instance. I managed to get stuck in Manus of Borg's cage because of this, which was incredibly awkward.

[CABAL49]

I am always on.

[Flarecobra]

I say hi but you normally never respond there PF.

[PhoenixFlame]

I don't think you ever friended me, Flare.

I have virtually everything in the same chat window so it's easy to get drowned out by zone chat if I don't know you're on and therefore aren't actively looking for your chat.

[Flarecobra]

I don't think I have either....

I'll remidy that tomarrow, after I get my own internet hooked up. (yay, no more shitty, unstable wireless connection!)

But yeah, I tend to keep zone chat off here... some of the comments are enough to make me go Karkat.

Might I add: Fuck position lag.

[synkr0nized]

Holy shit.
The new ships, on paper, seem so dumb.

And then you go to the forum, wherein I've come to expect to find the stupider players rather than the smarter (the latter probably don't post too much), and see all the whining. "They're too strong! Screw Pay to Win!" "They aren't letting me kill everything with one button! make them better!!" "I did no research and bought these ships and they aren't what I expected! anger!"

Just.

If you like any of the ships in the store, that's cool -- I totally have bought some myself. But holy Hell, know what you are buying first.



Anyway.
I have like a day or two to get my last couple of characters through the FE for the limited time reward(s). After that I should be able to pop on now and again for STFs and such. My Tuesdays and Thursdays have been reclaimed, for now, by raids again (took a break from WoW, but my guild apparently needed me; figured free-time wise I was just filling that hole with other games so I may as well, for now).

[PhoenixFlame]

It's funny, I just trolled a guy so bad he stopped fighting in a FvK match because of 'pay2win consoles' when his team is full of new odysseys with all three consoles and stuff. I only used Theta once in the whole match and a few acetons because I felt like it. He only died because he was one of those escorts who pop all their buffs and then I subnuke everything all at once.

It was hilarious.

I could hardly tell the new odysseys were new until one dropped an Aquarius and it just exploded a few seconds later.

[Flarecobra]

So in other words, they got some fancy new stuff, but they still explode just as easily?

[PhoenixFlame]

Yes.

But they're also feds, and the /satire random encounter table for pilot skill tends to be something like

Pilot Skill| UFP | KDF |
Noob---| 0-50 | 0-10
Green--| 50-78 | 10-20
Regular-| 78-95 | 20-50
Veteran| 95-96 | 50-70
Elite---| 97-98 | 70-80
Crack--| 98-98 | 80-99
Omygod| 98-100 | 100

/satire

The really ultimately crazy guys really are a bit more numerous on the UFP side because they have better ships and more straightforward strategies that reward just being good, but 95% of their guys are average at best.

[Flarecobra]

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/Tholian_ConceptArt.jpg

It appears that the next Featured Series (Coming in June/July) will involve Tholians.

[CABAL49]

Have the Tholians even ever been seen since TOS? They are always referenced....

But is it me or did STFs get a lot harder. I went from nabbing some bonuses from Elites to having my team ragequit on a normal.

[synkr0nized]

I don't know about elites. Normals seem the same to me.

Tribble notes seem to indicate we'll be getting Borg with no crits to try to prevent invis-torp one-shots. And that apparently since they are dumb and made shield generator sci consoles stack they're going to make them less effective and leave the stacking.

[POS Industries]

And that apparently since they are dumb and made shield generator sci consoles stack they're going to make them less effective and leave the stacking.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/1320427559034.jpg

[synkr0nized]

I know, right?
Reading the STO forum is getting depressing. I am amazed how well folks seem to manage to be bad at this game.

The ever-growing thread about the D'deridex Defenders is pretty hilarious and sad at the same time. Finally, an enemy cruiser that has skills and uses tactics. Oh wait people can't kill them.

I killed them just fine leveling a fed tac this weekend... I should go back and fight more at VA. But I wasn't using jam sensors and boarding party, so...

[CABAL49]

Yeah, I think the game I was in was just glitched cause I did the same mission on Elite and I noticed a lot less spawns and I was able to do some damage to the nanite transferthings without it autohealing. Still have trouble getting the bonus on that one. Always a little too slow.

And when were the D'deridex changed? I fought some a few days ago and I didn't have much trouble.

[Flarecobra]

Have the Tholians even ever been seen since TOS? They are always referenced....


They showed up in a few episodes of Enterprise, and in the two-part Mirror Universe episode, you got to see what the full body looks like for the first time.

[synkr0nized]

And when were the D'deridex changed? I fought some a few days ago and I didn't have much trouble.

The battleships haven't changed. But the last patch leaked in D'deridex Defenders, cruisers with RSP, Aux2SIF, Feedback Pulse, and I think a shield heal/science team and heavy plasma torps. It's supposedly an enemy from an upcoming Romulan-based fleet action (STF?) that the devs, in Cryptic fashion, forgot to prevent from integrating with the list of possible spawns for normal missions. Most of the players can't handle them and are very upset on the forum.

This has only further proven to me that most of the players are terrible. I like how one poster put up images of him defeating it without shields in a vanilla bortas.

[PhoenixFlame]

Shields are overrated anyway.

[synkr0nized]

qq

I like my shield tanking.



e: I should just get myself banned from the STO forum. Then I wouldn't be motivated to read threads and find out how dumb people are.
Like. I totally realize that the experienced PvP players have been around a while and know some nuances I don't. But it's not like this game is difficult. But so much fail.


Hilfe!!

[PhoenixFlame]

Hilfe!

Hilfe!

The sad part is about the same day we took Synk into Ker'rat for the first time she pretty much owned feds anyway. It's about doubly sad that that's about as tough as the feds in Ker'rat have ever been.

So yeah, I donno if they're just bad, or the players better than me know better than to play such a terrible game, or what.

[synkr0nized]

Where's PoS??

My Marauder feels like it has armor made of wet tissue paper in Kerr'at. I think I need advice. :(

[POS Industries]

My older Marauder posts are a good place to start, but they're imperfect compared to later builds. Of course, I also haven't played in a while and there have been some changes that I haven't really concerned myself with, so there's a chance that I can only help you so much.

What's your build currently look like?

[synkr0nized]

Doing this from memory, as I am still at work.

I heal great in STFs, but PvE enemies are kind of yawn. I was in Kerr'at the other night and gettin' owned like a boss at the spawn repeatedly. Didn't seem to have any punch when it was just me and another cruiser, either. In any case, my tac-captain'd Vor'cha feels like it tanks way better somehow.

The ship currently has the Borg shields, engines, and console. I would like to be running Honor Guard shields on it, though.

Running all beams + one torp fore and aft. Random level/quality MK X disruptors slotted for now, as I kitted out my BoP first.

Bridge Officers
Lt. Tactical: Tac Team 1, BFAWII
Lt. Com. Eng: EPtS1, RSP1, ET3, (has eject warp plasma in case I don't need extend shields)
Commander Eng: EPtS1, EPtW2, Aux2SIF2, Extend Shields 3
Lt. Sci: HE1, TSS2
Ens. Sci: TSS1

Consoles
Eng: Neutronium Alloy Mk X (x2), Monotanium Alloy Mk X, EPS Mk X (all blue; should be getting Mk XI)
Sci: Borg, Field Generator Mk XI, Emitter Array Mk XI
Tac: 2x Disruptor MK X for now (not sure I will stick with disruptor beams)

I toggle between the Marauder shuttles and the regular/common quality siphon drones. I could also steal S'kul fighters from a Kar'Fi.

I can't log in to get my power levels, but I have one with high weapons for attacks and junk and toggle to another that mostly ups shields and aux for defense and heals. I know without numbers that doesn't really say much.

[POS Industries]

My recommendations (if you want to straight up copy the unrivaled tanking power of the Arachnid's Grip) would be to replace EPtW2 with EPtS2, then replace one of your EPtS1s with ET1, unless you've managed to get enough Maintenance Engineer doffs stacked up to reduce your ET cooldown to the GCD. I also personally prefer Attack Pattern Delta to BFAW from a defensive/support standpoint.

I would also majorly recommend getting a Plasmonic Leach console and replacing your Monotanium Alloy console with it. Replacing your Mk Xs with Mk XI blues (or Mk X purples) is definitely worth doing, as well.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what you're running in terms of shields/deflector/engines, but I prefer the Borg engines and deflector with the Mk XI KHG shields.

[synkr0nized]

Yeah, that's the engine/shield combo I want, but I haven't gotten the tech drops yet for the shields.

So how many enemies can you take at a time?

Also I don't have the dilithium for 800 C-points right now.

[POS Industries]

Well, I've never really bothered to count in PvE, but in PvP it typically takes about 4-5 of your average Feds to actually become a threat to me, but a skilled group can burn me down with 3, especially if they have science skills at their disposal.

Also one thing worth noting is that my build incorporates the Reman maintenance engineer doff, which was only available for one weekend shortly before F2P started and gives me awesome bonuses when I use batteries (10% attack with weapons batteries, 10% defense for shields batteries, etc.), which helps a lot. Especially considering that I have a Red Matter Capacitor from the collector's edition (snagged it for 4 bucks on Amazon!) that serves as a battery to all power levels and thereby activates all the Reman doff's bonuses simultaneously. As a result, I've specced into the battery skill (not recommended for anyone not using this setup, of course) which basically gives me 30-second bonuses to whatever I damn well feel like every minute or so.

[PhoenixFlame]

You could always get Tachyon drones.

I mean, then everyone you fight might aswell have their shields unequipped.

[Flarecobra]

Need some advice: Taking out an advanced escort equipped with the full Borg set. Suggested ways of taking them down?

[CABAL49]

I might have time to start playing more again next week. Passed by the jobs board today and there was HILFE! Everywhere. Made me think of you all.

[Flarecobra]

HILFE?

[synkr0nized]

German for "help", which captains yell when they are incapacitated and need revived. This happens a lot in ground STFs with bad captains, and often when PF and I played together they'd be German. So we equated it with bad players and made it a rallying cry or something.

[Flarecobra]

Ah. And by the way, question I asked a few posts back never got answered. :/

[synkr0nized]

You're in your Fleet escort wanting to kill an advanced escort?

[stefan]

recently hit 41. Currently flying a Star Cruiser with six mk. X polaron beam arrays, a plasma minelayer and a quantum torpedo launcher.

the mines have been surprisingly useful, though I rarely venture into PVP.

[Flarecobra]

You're in your Fleet escort wanting to kill an advanced escort?

Advanced Escort.

And I'm currentally equipped with plasma weapons.. and I know the full Borg set provides a strong resistance to them, so I'm exploring alternitives.

[synkr0nized]

If you mean you're in an advanced and fighting borg, then plasma is still fine -- they aren't any more resistant to it than other weapons.

If you're fighting players, best thing to do is to swap all your weapons for something else, favourites being disruptors, phasers, or antiproton for their generally-regarded superior procs. Any player who's not a fresh rear admiral likely has at least the borg shields and their plasma resist.

My vor'cha had to refit all its weapons once I decided I'd take it against players. I initially just liked the plasma color and sound effects. In fact that's how I picked a lot of my weapons at first. But at least I didn't rainbow.



Edit: Went afk and http://home.comcast.net/~synkr0nized/screenshots/STO_danceparty.jpg.

edit2: Oh man the fleet escort with a tac packs a punch. I am remembering why I like this game.

[Flarecobra]

Dunno if I can snag antiproton weapons... but I'll see what I can do about Disrupter/Phaser stuff.

[synkr0nized]

a link to a thread which after reading only the first page made me once again regret logging into the STO forum (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=264432)



e: oh my God, priceless (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=267013)... Poor RP player got scolded and deleted all his drops in shame. ha ha ha. I don't condone being rude to players new to STFs, but holy crap. This forum is like a gold mine for griefing. If I ever decide I don't care about being banned from STO anymore it will be so much fun.

[CABAL49]

It is funny cause when we play it is usually you scrapping my ass off the ground.

[synkr0nized]

This thread is falling away. I can't have that.
Not when it and DS9 are doing, like, a mutually-reinforcing-Star-Trek thing for me right now.

[CABAL49]

I suppose I can pew pew some more.

[Flarecobra]

Incoming future content!

For those who are in Fleets, you now can get your own starbase. (http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/22/exclusive-star-trek-online-season-6-reveal-fleet-starbases/)

[CABAL49]

When is this coming out? What do we need to built it? Where do you all want to build it. We're doing this if I have to do it myself.

[synkr0nized]

Soon(tm)

But I don't think they've set any dates. Hopefully this will be an overall part of Season 6 and not some kind of random addition later.

As some on their forum pointed out, this kind of feels like it's just another "visit bridge", but if fleets can customize what NPCs are available in the station (i.e. make sure it has bank, mail, exchange, ship selection, retrainers, and the like) it could be a great place to park characters.

[Flarecobra]

STO Wiki says tentively June-July.

Revamp of fleet gameplay
• Fleet advancement system [35][22][6] ? Tie-in of Duty Officer System [22]
*Ability to unlock fleet perks, e.g., more fleet bank space (Season 6 or earlier) [17]

• Ability to "craft"/construct and manage fleet starbases [17] and ships [38][37] ? Five tiers of starbase construction (numerous teaser images: [39]
* 20-person fleet events that take place at your starbase [37][33]
* Including shipyards to costumize/upgrade ships, e.g., creating a refit Sovereign class [31]
* Playing some role in future fleet vs fleet (KDF vs FED) territory control game ("controlling and or harvesting a vast variety of resources") [32] [5][22]

• High-end content designed for fleets, e.g., STF-like instances for 10 or 20 players [38] * "Revamp of the end-game loot structure", including STF drops [2][4][6]

• Ability to form a fleet with less than five players [1]

[synkr0nized]

I do know there's a new STF on Tribble already that's more-or-less meant for Fleet groups. You fight waves of enemies, and you are awarded an accolade for making it to the sixth one. I have no idea what you get upon completion, but I'm assuming it includes whatever they are putting into the game to help upgrade your starbase.

This past weekend I joined a few of the global channels that folks have set up -- REDALERT, Accolades, EliteSTF, and a distress-call one -- and have managed to see some chatter in a couple of them about Tribble activity. Also the dev/community relations guy Branflakes was on last night helping get people into the KA STFs since it was offering double rewards. For a moment he mentioned the above STF and that he really can't wait until we all get to play with starbases, so it might be pretty rad.

[Flarecobra]

I wonder if we can customize the interior in any way....

[synkr0nized]

I'm hoping you can.

Also there's currently a 15% bonus to all Zen/Cryptic points purchased, through Monday.

[synkr0nized]

haha

So calling someone a troll is considered trolling on their forum, but not a word about calling the same person a floozy. It also took them, like, two weeks to decide to edit my post/message me, after having already edited and warned other members in that thread a week ago...

[Flarecobra]

http://startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/kdf_bases1.jpg
http://startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/kdf_bases2.jpg[/img
[img]http://startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/kdf_bases3.jpg
http://startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/kdf_bases4.jpg
http://startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/KDF_Base_FS_060112.jpg

[synkr0nized]

T5+1 Akira "Armitage" class heavy escort carrier (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/3241)


Come Thursday morning, there will be no reason to captain anything else, fed side, anymore.

[POS Industries]

heavy escort carrier
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/1329961928343.gif

[CABAL49]

How can anyone think the Akira is anything but sexy?

Edit: I am also happy Fed is getting something that has nothing to do with cat people. When are Andorians going to get some love?

[Flarecobra]

...See ya later Tarawa. I'm gonna get me a new ship.

[synkr0nized]

lawl

Cryptic took down the forum for "maintenance" and have recently brought it back up as a complete overhaul into a PWE-based forum. All old posts and threads aren't paired with accounts (all listed as "Archived Post"), no one's join date or post history was preserved, everyone's last visited timestamp is 0 (12/31/1969 in Unix time), there are no more custom avatars, there's a huge waste of space header on every page, the theme is kind of half complete, the forum makes use of a fix-width styles in its layout, and there are no customization options (e.g. posts per page, time zone).

Oh and CPoints appear to be gone completely aside from a term still associated with the game (i.e. you only purchase zen now).


I'm more upset at all the HCI failures than the merging, as I already had been set up as a PWE account.

[Flarecobra]

So. For a new "Ship"... you get a freighter. That is basically the Azula/Vol'wl. (SP?)

[POS Industries]

You mean the Azure? Because let's face facts, the Azula is probably a Defiant with the Galaxy-X's phaser lance taped to it.

[Flarecobra]

Heh. After what happoned with the last one, I wouldn't be surprised. And we've seen heavy weapons attached to that style of ship before, in DS9.

[synkr0nized]

Season 6


Is it worth my time at all to work on fleet stuff with our little fleets, or can I go ahead and assume I am the only one still playing this game and find a home in other fleets?


Also they got rid of some UI notification spam and fixed some graphic issues.
And gave us holstered weapons. Kind of neat.

Fuck paying more money/points for "fleet" ship upgrades. Lame.

[POS Industries]

If you'd like to jump to another fleet, feel free. I really don't know if I feel like coming back just to deal with starbase administration nonsense.

Plus as long as my account exists, both NPF fleets will continue to be there for whatever purpose we might have for them.

[Flarecobra]

Season 6


Is it worth my time at all to work on fleet stuff with our little fleets, or can I go ahead and assume I am the only one still playing this game and find a home in other fleets?


Also they got rid of some UI notification spam and fixed some graphic issues.
And gave us holstered weapons. Kind of neat.

Fuck paying more money/points for "fleet" ship upgrades. Lame.

I play some. Just been busy as of late.

I say hi when I see ya, but I tend to go ignored.

Have some release notes. (http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=609221)

[synkr0nized]

I say hi when I see ya, but I tend to go ignored.

My apologies. If I log in and see no one on, I tend to ignore my NPF chat tab and just run STFs/chat in some other channels.


Holstering doesn't work for every weapon. Or consistently.

The Exchange is currently broken.
Some folks say their mail is as well, but I haven't seen that yet.


I don't know, I may be done with the game. I don't really have it in me to go trying to get into a fleet.

Maybe I'll renew WoW.

On the other hand, Dental is back, so at least there's silliness to watch.

[CABAL49]

Yeah, I stopped saying hi to you cause I never got a reply. ^_^

[synkr0nized]

...when have you even been on?!

Being able to drastically reduce the fly-by notification spam might make it easier to see friends, I guess! Actually I should probably just stop leaving NPF in a separate tab from the other channels.



edit: and maybe getting rid of the "friends" in my list from random invites/STF runs

[CABAL49]

Well, I have been mainly working on an alt who is not in the guild, so I can't use guild chat with him. But it looks like we need Grandmaster POS to allow us to build the starbase.

[POS Industries]

Okay so as it turns out, after seeing what a complete sad mess our little starbase is in, at least on KDF, I have decided to come back to help fix up the place.

[Flarecobra]

On the other hand, Dental is back, so at least there's silliness to watch

Who are these folks?

EDIT: Ok, just found this out:

Since according to this thread ( http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3495038 ) the Goons/Starfleet Dental not only plan to grief people all day but also will try to get invites to other fleets (at times they have been successful) and rob their banks.

Yeah, I'm staying away from social areas.

[synkr0nized]

Unless you like to dance on tables in Drozona you don't have anything to worry about. Watching a few people spam fire extinguishers on guys trying to get lap dances there is pretty great, in my opinion. The ensuing arguments and PvP challenges are a little funny, too.


Though if you still have that character in House of Banished Orions or whatever then perhaps you may get their attention.

[CABAL49]

Well this guy worked up enough fleet merits so that our Klingon base can get a transwarp gate. It will be done tomorrow. You're welcome.

Yeah POS, Starfleet projects are still locked.

[synkr0nized]

I ground some doffs into the KDF projects, but was only on for a few minutes. I don't have fleet merits yet, as I haven't run any content (aside from one KASE) since the season was released.


200,000 dilithium just to make sure your starbase has windows?? Man the small fleets really get the shaft, eh?


Well, if you guys are cool with doing the projects in our fleets, I sure as Hell want to help, too. And then we can get fleet versions of our ships for upgraded stats. wooo


Military, Science (communications?), or Engineering starbases?

[CABAL49]

If we work together, the Tholian missions deal out a lot of fleet merits. I can do all but the last by myself. But if we all get the rewards, then it will go that much faster.

[synkr0nized]

If we work together, the Tholian missions deal out a lot of fleet merits. I can do all but the last by myself. But if we all get the rewards, then it will go that much faster.

I recently read that during the bonus fleet marks events on the calendar every season 6 thing gets more rewards, and then repeatable Tholian stuff can just be farmed for, like, two hours for marks.

Zerg rushin' that for marks and environmental suits or whatever could work well.

[stefan]

I recently read that during the bonus fleet marks events on the calendar every season 6 thing gets more rewards, and then repeatable Tholian stuff can just be farmed for, like, two hours for marks.

Zerg rushin' that for marks and environmental suits or whatever could work well.

you get 10 marks per mission in the tholian zone during the event, and three of the missions (rescue redshirts, closing doors, and the one about stealing tholian science reports) can be farmed easily solo. If you just spend the whole event grinding those three missions you can make around 400 fleet marks in 2 hours, more if you group with people.

@Flare: Dental isn't going to bother you unless you bug them for a fleet invite without being a goon or are one of the tabledancing orion ERPers, so you'll be good.

[Flarecobra]

In other words, stay on my Romulan.

And how are the Tholian missions?

[CABAL49]

And how are the Tholian missions?

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Edit: Not really worth another post. As it turns out, I only unlocked out ability to unlock the plans to the transwarp. But we have a communications array, that does nothing.

Edit2: And we would need POS to unlock transwarpgate project.

[synkr0nized]

hahaha

I forgot that going to Drozana with a caitian or feresan nets you tells with such gems as "nice tail" and "meow". Hahaha this station is the worst.


Also yeah I guess five months is long enough. I will probably play this again off and on now.

[synkr0nized]

3rd Year Anniversary is a go

If you have an account, it's worth logging in/dusting it off. Major NPCs make appearances, as do two major Enterprise-C characters, and there's a fun fight with Tholians. Crosby's voice acting is kind of meh, but that's par for the course in STO anyway.



The free ships are very medicore at best**, but hey. It's a fun mission!
** like, I literally am leaving them packed in their boxes in my characters' banks.


Just be sure to note that when you are done with the mission you will have to re-equip your boffs into their bridge stations.

[Flarecobra]

Well, at least this time you can use them at the Commander level, then an upgraded version at 50.

Besides, I figured the Enterprise C worked quite well.

q-jsYjDDwe8

And don't forget the Q daily.

[RobinStarwing]

I liked what I got to see in it during the Tholian fight. Granted, still a Captain only but I will probably have this one (in both flavors), my LRSV, and the Mirror Assault as my main ships till I crack open my now 44 Lock boxes (27 Temporal, 6 Tholian, 6 Dominion, 4 Ferengi...I'm planning a Lock Box Party in December with my Birthday/Xmas money and/or asking for PW Gift Cards).

I will probably scrap my Excalibur Class and maybe my Heavy Cruiser.

On a side note...I did the Q-daily and got a Tetryon Mk VIII Full Auto Rifle [DMG][DoT]x2 out of it. :) I did an exploration mission that involved using it and all I gotta say is...

"SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!"

My Klingon Sci will be going for the KDF ship today.

EDIT: Problem I am having is what to name my Ambassador for when it comes out of it's crate(s). Here are some ideas...

U.S.S. Reinforce Eins (for the regular) / U.S.S. Reinforce Zwei (Refit)
U.S.S. Queen Serenity
U.S.S. Excelion / U.S.S. Exceed
U.S.S. Tsubasa
U.S.S. Dammerung

[CABAL49]

In my pursuit of the Jem'Hadar carrier, I have racked up a lot of the rich vein ore permits. These allow me to get the 8000 refinery limit per day pretty easily, which allows me to buy a key to open a loxbox which keep giving me more permits. I think I just won.

[synkr0nized]

Robin, pass on your @handle. Mine should be obvious. And then get in the NPFU chat channel.


I liked that the Enterprise-C is kitted out with full MKXII purples in the mission [at max level]. There's virtually no way to lose that mission, leaving us free to enjoy it.

So far, I have not been able to get anyone other than B'vat or Shon to make a distraction. I was really hoping to get the ferengi killed or that my boy Obisek would throw down.

The accolades in the maintenance tunnels were a nice touch, but Tasha needs to shut the fuck up instead of talking all the fucking time. But I guess they needed to get their money's worth out of having her sit in a recording session.


Oh also this year's party popper fires off various balloons that float around the room and/or flop to the ground.

Yeah.


So the folks who already hate the fireworks, smoke, and lazer lights of the previous ones now have to deal with players leaving persistent world objects (balloons) everywhere. I await Drozana invasions to see how that goes.



On the ship front, I am debating using EC to open a bunch of boxes or just going ahead and buying the heavy escort carrier. The price has already come down 10-15 million. I hope that trend continues (unless I end up getting more than one if I go the box route -- then I want the price to stay higher :P).


As an aside, if you ever played any of the "grinder" foundry missions, they're killed:
Foundry NPC Groups set to Timid creature will now fight back when they take damage.

[RobinStarwing]

Robin, pass on your @handle. Mine should be obvious. And then get in the NPFU chat channel.


I liked that the Enterprise-C is kitted out with full MKXII purples in the mission [at max level]. There's virtually no way to lose that mission, leaving us free to enjoy it.

So far, I have not been able to get anyone other than B'vat or Shon to make a distraction. I was really hoping to get the ferengi killed or that my boy Obisek would throw down.

The accolades in the maintenance tunnels were a nice touch, but Tasha needs to shut the fuck up instead of talking all the fucking time. But I guess they needed to get their money's worth out of having her sit in a recording session.


Oh also this year's party popper fires off various balloons that float around the room and/or flop to the ground.

Yeah.


So the folks who already hate the fireworks, smoke, and lazer lights of the previous ones now have to deal with players leaving persistent world objects (balloons) everywhere. I await Drozana invasions to see how that goes.



On the ship front, I am debating using EC to open a bunch of boxes or just going ahead and buying the heavy escort carrier. The price has already come down 10-15 million. I hope that trend continues (unless I end up getting more than one if I go the box route -- then I want the price to stay higher :P).


As an aside, if you ever played any of the "grinder" foundry missions, they're killed:

Handles are Chrono@raventomoe (Starfleet)and Rabat@raventomoe (KDF) and my name in the group is ravenblackwingnight.

The balloons have been seriously lagging teh servers I heard as man of the morons are grabbing them. I will probably do the dailys for either the mystery gift or Dilithium.

Yes, I really do wish Tasha would shut up. >_>

EDIT: I will be in game under Rabat.

EDIT2: Apparently I can't get into the chat due to a lack of games in my account.

[CABAL49]

Where did you see 10 mil? The cheapest I have seen is 90.

[RobinStarwing]

Well, in case none of you have found out yet...the Temporal Mission is bugged with what I call teh Groundhog Bug. :|

[synkr0nized]

Where did you see 10 mil? The cheapest I have seen is 90.

If you mean me, I said "come down 10-15", not "come down to 10-15". The Heavy Escort was sitting around 80-100 million at the start of the Dominion Lockboxes and has gotten down to 75 million now.

The dreadnought may remain higher due to being a fixed-price, lobi-based purchase.


@Robin: What's the issue? I've done it 5 times so far -- each time on different characters -- without having to replay it.

[RobinStarwing]

If you mean me, I said "come down 10-15", not "come down to 10-15". The Heavy Escort was sitting around 80-100 million at the start of the Dominion Lockboxes and has gotten down to 75 million now.

The dreadnought may remain higher due to being a fixed-price, lobi-based purchase.


@Robin: What's the issue? I've done it 5 times so far -- each time on different characters -- without having to replay it.

It won't let it complete. I am stuck at the "Saves (more than) Nine" part of the mission.

[POS Industries]

So I snagged a Kamarag retrofit from the anniversary mission just before it ended and have been trying it out. I really, really love this ship. It's only required me to make some minor changes all around from my Marauder setup while not feeling like I've sacrificed that much in the way of tankiness, while being a lot faster at tearing through enemy ships. After two years in the Marauder, it's nice to have another ship that fits my playstyle as well as it does.

Now if only there were anything fun to do with it. Everything's been changed from horrible dilithium/EDC grind to a combination of grinding reputation/dilithium/marks, and the marks mostly just seem to be used to grind more reputation so that you can use marks that you grind to buy things after you get your rep high enough and none of it actually looks any fun.

[synkr0nized]

Yup

Despite having poor luck with the MKXII prototype drops in Elite STFs (especially considering how ass the average group is at Cure elites), I still prefer the previous store setup from back when I had been playing last summer. I basically was able to outfit a ship, barring MXXII shields and such, in a matter of days if I decided to play enough. OK, true, the [Borg] modifier is pretty useless, but having endgame weaponry available at minimal effort was fantastic.

Now, if I had new characters to gear, I'd be waiting at least a month, real-time, after hitting max level to get all of the rep tiers unlocked so that I could then dump ridiculous amounts of grinded currency into the items I want.

The fact that all of my captains have at least one ship fully geared makes it easier for me to keep playing. Otherwise I likely wouldn't have continued after unlocking the Breen ship.

I remain wary of the rumors about increasing the level cap, though. I'm already at a disadvantage** by not joining a fleet for fleet-versions of ships, so increasing the max ship tier and making all of mine obsolete will be the final nail in the coffin.

** numerically, at any rate; while I am no PvP'er, when I bother to parse an STF/encounter for DPS I tend to be quite satisfied.

Which is a shame. I cannot think of a game with space combat as fun as this, not to mention that it's tied to the Star Trek name and IP.


In any case, the layouts of both anniversary ships are actually pretty good. If I liked the Ambassador, I could easily see myself using it on cruiser-commanding captains. As it is, though, each of my characters has a blue or red box sitting in the bank unopened. Well, OK, I may have skipped the quest on one or two of them.

It's a fantastic ship for those leveling, though, and the commander version will remain as a reward, as far as I am aware.

[Flarecobra]

Always the Foundry.

[synkr0nized]

Oh!
An Andorian escort-ish ship is coming soon. Looks like a raptor-ized version of the ship that was in Enterprise. As much as I have been wanting a Dominion ship (either of them) for at least one of my characters, I may have to drop that plan on my main fed, who is Andorian, for this thing to serve as her escort ship.


Also, both anniversary ships will be coming out again as fleet versions. I had thought they'd be in the Z-store, but this is close enough.


edit: Of course, no new KDF ship since the Bortas (Chel Gret and anniversary ships don't count). GG.



EDIT: Do any of you want to get together and run stuff at any point in time? Flare and I chat a lot when we play, but I tend to log in and run STFs till dil cap on my characters or grind doffs, sometimes doing Foundry missions. I would be happy to play whatever in groups, though!

I also, admittedly, probably spend too much time on Drozana waiting for the goons to fuck with the roleplayers.

[POS Industries]

Do any of you want to get together and run stuff at any point in time? Flare and I chat a lot when we play, but I tend to log in and run STFs till dil cap on my characters or grind doffs, sometimes doing Foundry missions. I would be happy to play whatever in groups, though!
I'd be down for it. If I'm going to get back into doing some of this crap, it's always better with people I know.

I also, admittedly, probably spend too much time on Drozana waiting for the goons to fuck with the roleplayers.
You have to wait for that? They've got people there 24/7.

Although I have been disappointed that I've missed the good freakouts from the RPers. The videos of Dental demolishing them in PvP challenges have been a hoot.

[Flarecobra]

I'd like to take part. I got plenty of options.

EDIT: Or hell, even some Fleet Actions.

[CABAL49]

I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive them for putting the ships I want in lockboxes and then never giving them to me.

[synkr0nized]

OK, just gimme a holler over steam or whatever when you guys want to do things. I will probably be available today and on the weekend.


edit: Dominion Heavy Escort Carriers are down to ~62 million now. I'm hoping that continues to go down, though if I convert dilithium to zen for an andorian escort I don't really have a character that I'd use it on anymore...

[RobinStarwing]

I could get on that too but need it understood that my netbook is slow and my connection can be a bastard.

Also, just got on the Exchange today and bought a Mirror Universe Patrol Escort to compliment my MU Advanced, the Assault, my LRSV, and my Support Cruiser Refit. I'm planning on it to have an Antiproton DC/DHC/Turrets mix + Tricobalt or the Rapid-fire Transphasic Torps.

[POS Industries]

http://gateway.startrekonline.com/tex/Choose_Faction_Romulan.wtex

So I guess we're getting a Romulan faction.

[Flarecobra]

Sweetness.

[CABAL49]

Yeah, Romulan Star Empire listed as a possible. That is almost a replacement to the Jem'Hadar ships I've been denied.

[RobinStarwing]

About time. Seriously!

[POS Industries]

Just to put this in some degree of perspective: This is Cryptic we're dealing with. The RSE is probably going to end up making the KDF at launch look like the Horde during Cataclysm.

I'm all for warbirds in my STFs and all but in all likelihood this is gonna turn out kinda shitty for anyone who rolls Romulan.

[synkr0nized]

Grind New Romulus rep in case you need to be maxed with them on a character to unlock the faction.

I am glad I still have that alien-made Romulan captain. I can delete her finally and roll one, if this is truly happening.

Or I can just try to steal their ships, if they become available out of "faction".

Looks like I will put my andorian escort dilithium funnel on hold.

edit: CABAL, last I saw the Jem'hadar Heavy Escort Carrier was down to ~52 million from 75/80. The Dreadnought carrier is still up there, though that's to be expected due to it being a lobi purchase rather than a box drop.

[RobinStarwing]

Grind New Romulus rep in case you need to be maxed with them on a character to unlock the faction.

I am glad I still have that alien-made Romulan captain. I can delete her finally and roll one, if this is truly happening.

Or I can just try to steal their ships, if they become available out of "faction".

Looks like I will put my andorian escort dilithium funnel on hold.

edit: CABAL, last I saw the Jem'hadar Heavy Escort Carrier was down to ~52 million from 75/80. The Dreadnought carrier is still up there, though that's to be expected due to it being a lobi purchase rather than a box drop.

LOL, I got an idea then.

I've got like a huge collection of the last few lock boxes (Ferengi, Cardassian, Tholian, Temporal, and Dominion) and thinking if someone brings enough keys for everyone to open ten total (2 of each), I would happily hand them out to be opened to you guys. :)

Basically Lock Box Party

[Flarecobra]

...Do you know how much that would cost?

[RobinStarwing]

...Do you know how much that would cost?

Good point. Bad idea I guess.

[CABAL49]

http://sto.perfectworld.com/sto_may2013

Noticed this today. Anyone got any details on this or is it supposed to be as vague as fuck?

[RobinStarwing]

http://sto.perfectworld.com/sto_may2013

Noticed this today. Anyone got any details on this or is it supposed to be as vague as fuck?

Theories at the STO forums are running the gambit of Nero being alive and well to Tal Shiar bombing New Romulus to Sela's return as a new FE to a new Romulan Faction.

I am voting for a new FE and Romulan Faction based aroud New Romulus with the old Romulan Star Empire as the chess piece of the Iconians and the Iconians making a bigger entry in it.

[Marc v4.0]

It's Tasha Yar

[RobinStarwing]

It's Tasha Yar

Proof?

EDIT: That one has been tossed in too at the STO forums.

[Marc v4.0]

It's always Tasha Yar

[CABAL49]

They did say they wanted to do more with Denise Crosby.

[RobinStarwing]

They did say they wanted to do more with Denise Crosby.

It's always Tasha Yar

Hair is to long for it to be Sela or Tasha Yar.

[CABAL49]

Hair grows. Also the event itself probably has to do with Tasha/Sela. That is probably some dude carrying some lady that has no real importance other than for looks.

[RobinStarwing]

Well, the new screenshots kill the Tasha Yar hypothesis or at least make it comatose.

Empress Sela maybe but NOT Tasha.

Also, it seems New Romulus might get to be the center of a new Romulan Faction.

[POS Industries]

Naw, that's clearly Tasha in the background.

[POS Industries]

Hahaha, welp. (http://sto.de.perfectworld.eu/legacyofromulus)

Ladies and gentlemen, the Romulan Republic.

[RobinStarwing]

*Is bouncing up and down for joy*

WEEEEEEE!!!!!

This should be fun!

[synkr0nized]

and the English site is up, too, if anyone hadn't seen it (http://sto.perfectworld.com/legacyofromulus)

Well, I guess it's time to delete my fake Romulan that I never play. It's too bad I can't send her fully equipped Vor'cha somewhere else first.


The D'deridex may end up being a colossal turd, and I don't care. I finally get to have one!


If KDF also is being expanded to a full faction with 1-50 content, that's kind of LOL for all of us with fully-leveled and geared generals.

[POS Industries]

If KDF also is being expanded to a full faction with 1-50 content, that's kind of LOL for all of us with fully-leveled and geared generals.
It does, however, finally give the KDF a better chance to grow as a faction, especially now that new players can make a Klingon or Romulan as their first character instead of having to unlock them by playing a Fed.

[Flarecobra]

This should be awesome.

[synkr0nized]

It does, however, finally give the KDF a better chance to grow as a faction, especially now that new players can make a Klingon or Romulan as their first character instead of having to unlock them by playing a Fed.

But now I won't be able to [as] easily spot the bads.

[POS Industries]

I'm sure the Romulans will have a greater flood of dingbats, at least.

[CABAL49]

I went ahead and cleared a character slot for me Romulan. So I am ready.

[POS Industries]

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=852601

Q: (midniteshadow7) Will the Romulan Faction have their own Fleet System, Starbase, and Holdings? Will there be any new Fleet Holdings?

Dstahl: This is an important question that needs a detailed answer.

The Romulan Republic was created from the ground up as a complete new faction. They have their own backstory, their own exclusive missions and episode series, exclusive costumes, faction-exclusive social hub, unique playable species, a full ship progression line from level 1 to 50, unique HUD UI, and more. What they don’t have are their own Starbases. There are many reasons why we’ve made this decision and here’s one of them.

During one of the episodes in the Romulan Republic storyline, the Federation and Klingon Defense Force will challenge Romulan captains to choose sides in the Federation-Klingon War. This permanent and personal choice forges a very important alliance. Once this decision is made, individual Romulan captains will gain many benefits through their alliance, all the while remaining their own independent faction. Romulans still continue their own independent mission journal and storyline after this choice, remaining neutral within the Romulan faction, but the choice has an impact on their progression towards end-game.

In many ways, Romulans will have the best of two "worlds" – theirs and their ally’s. Not only do they have their own exclusive stories, ships, and costumes, but they gain many benefits of their ally. This includes access to a variety of their allies’ ships, rewards, and hubs. While Romulans can’t wear the actual uniform of their ally, they do gain unique costume options, such as a Romulan Republic/Klingon Uniform variant, for example. So when a Romulan creates a Fleet, they are creating a Fleet that is open to Romulans of a chosen allegiance as well as members of that allegiance. Vice-a-versa, they’re also free to join existing fleets of their chosen ally.

Our goal is to encourage existing Fleets, many of whom have spent countless hours on their Starbases, to stay in business and welcome in New Romulans instead of splintering to go "do it all over again". We want captains to group with Fleet mates who decide to start a Romulan and entice them to ally at end game. This not only works thematically, but it also keeps the conflict focused on the Klingon/Federation War.

Now that many established Fleets are finishing their Tier 5 Starbases, we expect to see established guilds enticing all the New Romulans to join their cause in exchange for access to the best ships and gear the ally can offer. In the future, we will consider unique Romulan Starbases. For now, the New Romulans are just getting their feet on the ground and must look to the planet New Romulus as their new home and rely on the Starbases of their ally for support.

Also, a new Fleet Holding is in development, but will be launching after the release of Legacy of Romulus.
TL;DR Romulan characters will just be Fed or KDF characters with warbirds and a green UI.

And just like that, all my interest in this expansion has evaporated.

[RobinStarwing]

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=852601


TL;DR Romulan characters will just be Fed or KDF characters with warbirds and a green UI.

And just like that, all my interest in this expansion has evaporated.

They are limited by the game engine and I am rather interested to see how this choice-based mechanic works.

Also today...I got a Vo'quv! :) I'm a happy little trekkie!

Star trekkin' across the universe!

[POS Industries]

They are limited by the game engine and I am rather interested to see how this choice-based mechanic works.
They are limited by being as lazy as they've been for the past three years and this choice-based mechanic will work like a glitchier, more half-assed version of Mists of Pandaria.

I hope I didn't spoil the surprise for you.

[synkr0nized]

Fuck it, I still get a D'deridex.

[RobinStarwing]

Fuck it, I still get a D'deridex.

That's the spirit!

:eek: On an unrelated note...taking my new Vo'quv for her shakedown and HOLY SHIT! I might as well rename it the I.K.S. Godzilla for how much power that ship can unleash. :smug:

[POS Industries]

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=854201

[dStahl] This is where Romulan Republic captains have an advantage. Not only can they pilot their exclusive Warbird class ships with singularity cores, but they also gain the ability to command ships of their ally, much like Kira Nerys would command the Defiant while still wearing her Bajoran Militia uniform.

Romulans also gain access to the Fleet Ships of their chosen ally as well as any Romulan Republic only Fleet ships. They can also fly any limited edition lock box ship as well.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/posindustries/facepalm/1359932178848.gif

[synkr0nized]

All that really means is if you want your fed or KDF character to also have access to Romulan ships, you'll probably want to re-make the character as a Romulan.

Too bad you'd lose any equipped ships that way. So time for them to sell more character slots to players!

[POS Industries]

So if you're starting a new character, what reason do you have to not make a Romulan, aside from purely RP purposes?

[synkr0nized]

pretty much

definitely sucks if you like any of the non-Romulan races

[POS Industries]

On the bright side, I get that they're doing everything they can to encourage Romulan players to make use of their unique "faction" features, so hopefully those efforts combined with obvious character slot limitations will result in less of an impact of the inevitable tidal wave of Romulans in rainbow Odysseys.

Also, one thing that did not escape notice was the mention that Romulans are going to have cloak bonus traits, which if nothing else will hopefully encourage more Romulan players to go KDF to maximize their usefulness. I'm also curious to see what alternatives the Remans get, as I'm strongly considering making one of those, since one of the most surprising things Cryptic got right with this game was managing to salvage that entire species into an actually engaging and compelling people after the trainwreck that was Nemesis.

[Flarecobra]

Not sure if good thing...

[RobinStarwing]

I'm holding out hope but I do like what I am seeing and hearing so far.

[POS Industries]

Speaking of the Remans, I just noticed this:

[dStahl] All accounts will have the ability to unlock the Reman species, which is an exclusive species to the Romulan Republic, in one of two ways: they can either purchase the species unlock, or they can earn it by achieving maximum tier in the Romulan Reputation with a captain of any faction. A FED or KDF captain that has already achieved max tier in the reputation has already unlocked the Reman species and it will be available for them when they go to create a new Romulan character after May 21.
Soooooooooooooo I guess I need to get that last Romulan rep tier knocked out.

[synkr0nized]

It's not too bad of a grind. I think, without even really trying, I've already got a captain into tier 3 or 4 rep with New Romulus. If I ever would go to their space / New Romulus and do anything, I'd probably have the marks to make this happen.


And I agree with you. Remans are an example of how Cryptic is capable of good storytelling. It's too bad they don't do more of that.

[POS Industries]

Yeah, it'll only take me nine more days to max both it and the Omega Force rep out and I have enough marks to complete both (without even chasing a single epohh!). I've just been a bit lazy about it lately.

[CABAL49]

I just can't keep paying attention to the grind. It is just so boring.

[RobinStarwing]

So, information about the ships is now out. (http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=858671)

So far...I am slightly disappointed that there will not be multiple classes in the same area it seems but I might be wrong.

[stefan]

pretty sure this isn't the full roster, considering there were a couple variations in the promo images that aren't there.

[RobinStarwing]

pretty sure this isn't the full roster, considering there were a couple variations in the promo images that aren't there.

True and granted....my slight disappointment is offset by how awesome these designs look. I can't wait to fly a D'deridex.

[POS Industries]

So they've got the Crystalline Entity fleet action back for a limited time.

http://i.imgur.com/SHPQf3y.jpg

[RobinStarwing]

Pigtails on an Orion look wrong..

On another note, I've been doing it myself but not caring what I place.

Oh, and I soloed a pair of Borg Cubes in my Vo'quv on my Klingon and unleashed the full fury of my B'rels. :) That was fun to watch the cubes die.

[POS Industries]

Pigtails on an Orion look wrong..
I agree. Good thing there aren't any Orions in that picture.

It would just look silly.

[RobinStarwing]

I agree. Good thing there aren't any Orions in that picture.

It would just look silly.

That's your Romulan isn't it?