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PCD
07-10-2012, 05:49 PM
The first chance for people outside Japan to choose, supposedly. (http://vgtribune.com/smash-poll-2012-quarterfinals/)

I'm always suspicious of the legitimacy of any internet voting, petitions, or signature collections, but for this I don't even care. If I'm able to entertain the faintest glimmer of hope that The Ouendan, Professor Layton, and Karate Joe can appear in the next Smash Bros, I'm going to get excited and there's nothing you can do about it.

Amake
07-10-2012, 05:51 PM
Raul Menendez is the only acceptable option here.

Dracorion
07-10-2012, 05:53 PM
guys guys stop takling crazy we need to vote for Goku obivosly come on

Bells
07-10-2012, 06:12 PM
well, Shulk from Xenoblade leading the pack... who knew!

phil_
07-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Yeah, Shulk! Get stuck in!

Red Fighter 1073
07-10-2012, 07:11 PM
I'm just waiting for the new Mewtwo clone.

guys guys stop takling crazy we need to vote for Goku obivosly come on

Well damn, and here you got me all excited...

Flarecobra
07-10-2012, 07:22 PM
Captain Rainbow. Just cause. I mean, how can anyone take such a name seriously?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/CaptainRainbow.jpg
Besides, he's just FABOULSLY rainbowy.


But in all seriousness, I voted for Little Mac, and Sami.

phil_
07-10-2012, 07:49 PM
Being serious? Vote for Shulk. A vote for Shulk is a vote for killing god. Also, for including Riki. And Melia. And Reyn. And Dunban. And those other two.

That wasn't very serious at all, was it?

Edit: Saki is also good. Smash Bros could use more giant gun monsters.

Magus
07-10-2012, 08:01 PM
Voted for Captain Rainbow, Flint, Ghirahim, Isaac, King K. Rool, Krom, Little Mac, Mike Jones (clearly a Ness clone), Prince Fluff, Ridley, Saki, Sami, Shulk, Simea (is this the real name of the main character of Crystalis? I loved Crystalis, anyway), Waluigi, Zael.

Pip Boy
07-10-2012, 11:09 PM
I dunno, isn't it more in the spirit of Smash Bros to use the iconic characters that act as the face of a well-known series rather than obscure ones you'd never know about without help from wikipedia?

Aerozord
07-10-2012, 11:22 PM
Really, no love for Little Mac? He's a freakin midget that beat up Mike Tyson. What more do you want?

Magus
07-10-2012, 11:25 PM
King K. Rool is the Bowser of Donkey Kong Country, so he's pretty mainstream. Ridley is one of the main antagonists of almost ever Metroid game. Flint was a main character in Mother 3. Mike Jones was in Star Tropics which was freaking boss and he fought with a yo-yo, so there.

Shyria Dracnoir
07-10-2012, 11:54 PM
My ballot:

Captain Rainbow (if only to make the hardcore grognards cry)

Mike Jones (Star Tropics was one of the very first games I ever played, so big nostalgia factor).

Ouendan (not sure if this means the Japanese team or the EBA, but they're both alright in my book)

Prince Fluff (Epic Yarn was an adorable game and he'd make interesting synergy, especially if they introduce Yarn!Kirby along with him somehow).

Ridley (Because fuck you he's a giant alien space dragon)

Waluigi (bout fucking time)

mauve
07-11-2012, 12:06 AM
Is is sad that I saw the thread title and immediately thought "Inevitable result: ALL LANDMASTERS?"

Aldurin
07-11-2012, 01:03 AM
Why am I seeing retards do Write-in votes for Dunsparce (like Jigglypuff is an acceptable character due to being almost as recognizable as Pikachu and accidentally being one of the best characters in Brawl)? If you're gonna request a pokemon by itself then it has to be pretty damn high on the popular and badass scales.

Otherwise this is a pretty cool system to see about getting more smash characters.

MuMu
07-11-2012, 01:05 AM
Poor Aeron, only 4% :(

Still, voted for Aeron, Isaac(Even though I'm not a fan of the series and would rather have Crono in), Professor Layton, Ridley, Shulk and, of course, Waluigi.

POS Industries
07-11-2012, 01:11 AM
I didn't see Sub-Zero on the list so I have abstained from voting.

Aldurin
07-11-2012, 01:15 AM
I didn't see Sub-Zero on the list so I have abstained from voting.

Then do it as a write-in vote. They are totally taking that.

POS Industries
07-11-2012, 01:18 AM
That requires more effort than clicking a box, though.

Like, I'd have to type a whole thing about it. Fuck that.

Aldurin
07-11-2012, 01:21 AM
So you instead wrote a two sentence post about how you couldn't put the effort into a 1-person write-in vote?

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 01:26 AM
Voted for Captain Rainbow (because why the hell not?)
Flint (because he's badass, and cracking stuff in the face with a 2X4 is always fun)
Ghirahim (because I honestly think he'd make an interesting playstyle. All diamond teleports and weird sword moves)
Isaac (especially if they make him old bearded Isaac from Dark Dawn)
King K Rool (Especially if they make him Kaptain K. Rool and give him that weird blunderbuss)
Little Mac (Because he deserves it)
N (Because I seriously want to see what they plan to do to make him a fighter. I daresay he wouldn't ape Pokemon Trainer's schtick, especially with his personality)
Palutena (because Magnus isn't on the poll)
Saki (because his game was good, and hi Final Smash is obvious)
Shulk (because THE FUTURE IS OURS TO DECIDE!)


But seriously, why is Palutena on the poll instead of Magnus?

POS Industries
07-11-2012, 01:32 AM
So you instead wrote a two sentence post about how you couldn't put the effort into a 1-person write-in vote?
Now you're catching on.

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 01:33 AM
Seems Ghirahim, N, and Shulk are leading the pack, with roughly 8% of the vote each.

...that's more than it sound like, due to the large number of options. Layton is creeping up on them, though.

edit: in less exciting news, Team Sora is gone. (http://kotaku.com/5924999/smash-bros-creators-studio-closes-down) Smash 4 is being done by Namdai, not them.

greed
07-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Who is Namdai? They done anything?

Also we're getting Palutena cause she is the best character in the Uprising. What with being basically a trickster god masquerading as the god of light and goodness.

Edit: Also apparently what's shut down is Project Sora a team within Sora Ltd. The companies going on but the team responsible for KI has been disbanded and put to other things. That's what I've heard anyway.

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 10:01 AM
Namco Bandai. I was feeling lazy.

But Magnus is, like, the strongest guy in the world, and we totally don't have enough guys with big swords in the Smash Bros. lineup.

Oh, and apparently, the news isn't as bad as I thought. Project Sora, which made Kid Icarus Uprising, is gone, but Sora LTD, Sakurai's company, is not.

I still don't know about Palutena. I mean, sure, we know that she's got moves, but I wonder if she's right for the game.

On the other hand, if Palutena is playable, that means they have to give Pit a better Final Smash, since she won't be around to just be a face in the background anymore. I'm thinking the Three Sacred Treasures in a sort of Super Dragon-esque move. That, or The Great Sacred Treasure

synkr0nized
07-11-2012, 10:17 AM
I'd start a write-in campaign for MewTwo, but I think I am the only person saddened by his absence in Brawl.


Otherwise Ridley is the only interesting character, to me, on that list. How unfortunate.


edit: Tom Nook would be an OK choice if it was this version of him (http://lparchive.org/Animal-Crossing/).

greed
07-11-2012, 10:30 AM
Also I want the Cave Story kid (I want to say Mute?), Nintendo owns the IP now right?

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 10:30 AM
What? Man, no way you're the only person. I want Mewtwo to come back. Just make his moves better. Shadow Ball was good, but Disable and Confuse were limited to the point of uselessness. Give him better moves in their place, and Psystrike as his Final Smash.

edit: I'm pretty sure it's still in the hands of Pixel. However, since the game's been on Nintendo systems, it's possible. Also, his name is Quote.

Premmy
07-11-2012, 12:45 PM
I'd start a write-in campaign for MewTwo, but I think I am the only person saddened by his absence in Brawl.


Otherwise Ridley is the only interesting character, to me, on that list. How unfortunate.


edit: Tom Nook would be an OK choice if it was this version of him (http://lparchive.org/Animal-Crossing/).

I swear I don't know who most of the fuckers on that list are.I wanted to punch someone when I didn't see Mewtwo

mauve
07-11-2012, 02:32 PM
Oh wow, someone wrote in Sissel from Ghost Trick. BRB: Changing my answer to that.

Think about it. Sissel stops time, possesses everything, automatically wins.


At the very least, he should be an assist trophy that will possess any environmental hazard or object near your enemies for a short time. I would like that.

The world needs more Ghost Trick.

Aerozord
07-11-2012, 02:50 PM
I miss my mewtwo

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 04:15 PM
Oh wow, someone wrote in Sissel from Ghost Trick. BRB: Changing my answer to that.

Think about it. Sissel stops time, possesses everything, automatically wins.


At the very least, he should be an assist trophy that will possess any environmental hazard or object near your enemies for a short time. I would like that.

The world needs more Ghost Trick.

Would he be as he normally is seen, or the spoileriffic form from the end of the game? Because the latter would be hilarious to use as a fighter.

synkr0nized
07-11-2012, 06:28 PM
oh

word up to my MewTwo brethren. I often load up Melee just to run around not-touching items and throwing enemies into oblivion. With my mind.

Baller cliff-teetering animations, too.

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 07:01 PM
And I adore Teleport as a recovery move. Just something undeniably badass about it.

Lucario's Extremespeed doesn't even compare.

edit: ooh, maybe if they bring him back, they can replace Confusion with Psychic, where you flip them into the ground with your mind, and replace Disable with Hypnosis. Forward-wave version of Jigglypuff's Sing.

Mewtwo is badass and awesome. All he needs is to shed the dead weight moves known as Confusion and Disable, and up the power of his other stuff. Shadow Claw is another badass move that he has.

I'd be sad to see the badass staredown that is Disable go, but... wait, it doesn't need to go. Just put that animation for Hypnosis.

Flarecobra
07-11-2012, 07:27 PM
So N is now in second place...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6n0mpQjT01r5l6keo1_500.png

POS Industries
07-11-2012, 08:16 PM
oh

word up to my MewTwo brethren. I often load up Melee just to run around not-touching items and throwing enemies into oblivion. With my mind.

Baller cliff-teetering animations, too.
The thing that I really hated was the "Why are you mad? They've got Lucario in there and he plays like an even better version of Mewtwo!" argument, as if that's not just adding insult to the injury of Mewtwo's removal. Also mad science experiment > furry any day of the week.

Also Zelda ended up feeling like a better replacement for Mewtwo than Lucario, in terms of playstyle.

Aerozord
07-11-2012, 08:25 PM
Mewtwo's taunt was basically just an evil laugh

what more do you want

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 08:49 PM
Try taunting with a swinging weapon in his hand. I'm pretty sure he psychically twirls it. My favorite move with him was his dashing attack with a swinging weapon.

Who else thinks that Mewtwo would be much better received if people used items more? I mean, seriously. the way he handles items is like a dream. Flinging boxes without even caring, slinging capsules at about a mile a second, and swinging Beam Swords like a boss.

And yeah, Lucario as a replacement is kind of sad. I like Lucario, but I loved Mewtwo.

Also, some of their move names for Lucario weren't even right. His Down B should've been called Counter or Me First, and his Final Smash is totally Flash Cannon. Instead, they called 'em Double Team and Aura Storm.

Speaking of Final Smashes: we all know that Mewtwo's would be Psystrike, since it's his new signature move, which nobody else can do. But what would it look like? In his own game, it's like a psychic ripple that then surrounds the enemy with little projectiles that all converge on the poor sap.

Oh, and as much as Sora might be a good character, it's not likely. Disney wouldn't let it fly. Dissidia Final Fantasy was originally billed as a Kingdom Hearts fighter, but Disney doesn't want their characters in that sort of game.

synkr0nized
07-11-2012, 09:09 PM
Also Zelda ended up feeling like a better replacement for Mewtwo than Lucario, in terms of playstyle.

I've definitely come to really like Brawl-Zelda and play with her a lot**, but I really miss the strength of her in-air-side-kick from Melee. Shit would launch people for miles.

'course, that can be said of a few other moves, as well. Brawl really seems to tone down the smashing-about of people.


** I played her often in Melee, too. But in Brawl I love to just stand at a distance and send magic balls of death annoyance at everyone. I am apparently frustratingly accurate and consistent with it.
Also, I don't touch Lucario. Unless I feel like shooting beams from above after stealing every final smash item.

Actually there are a few characters I don't ever play in Brawl, whereas I would play everyone in Melee, more or less. I foresee the trend continuing in whatever they release next, if these names are any indication.



edit: Yeah I finally posted to add him as a write-in. *shrug*

Locke cole
07-11-2012, 09:12 PM
Hopefully, Mewtwo will get into the Semifinals of this voting. The top four requested write-in characters are getting into the semifinals. So write-in.

Magus
07-11-2012, 10:49 PM
The thing that pissed me off in Brawl was they nerfed Ganondorf. I used to win all the time with him in Melee. He as like a more controllable Captain Falcon. In Brawl he freaking sucked. I suppose all the good characters in Brawl like Metaknight and such will be nerfed as well in this new one.

akaSM
07-11-2012, 11:26 PM
Mewwto is fun to play and I miss Dr Mario (I never used Mario but I was pretty good with the Doc) but it's AWESOME to troll people with Pichu. Specially with thunder on stages with platforms :3

Aldurin
07-11-2012, 11:29 PM
The thing that pissed me off in Brawl was they nerfed Ganondorf. I used to win all the time with him in Melee. He as like a more controllable Captain Falcon. In Brawl he freaking sucked. I suppose all the good characters in Brawl like Metaknight and such will be nerfed as well in this new one.

Ganondorf feels better in Brawl than in Melee for me (not even considering the Final Smash). And Metaknight needs a buff since he either needs more speed or more launching attacks to be pretty useful.

I just wonder if they'll nerf Jigglypuff . . . he's ridiculously OP in Brawl.

Locke cole
07-12-2012, 12:04 AM
Didn't the guys who do tournaments ban Meta Knight outright?

Also, Jiggly OP? Bah. I remember the days when Rest was a holy terror.

akaSM
07-12-2012, 12:06 AM
IIRC, people complained a lot about him and Snake. Luckily, no one complained about Ike, I would be sad if he was gone in the new SSB :/

Aldurin
07-12-2012, 12:07 AM
Also, Jiggly OP? Bah. I remember the days when Rest was a holy terror.

You don't even need Rest. He has the most jumps and the best midair control of any character, with decently powerful regular attacks to allow you to beat people up from any direction and then finish them with Double-edge. If you can do well at dodging then you almost never get hit.

mauve
07-12-2012, 12:14 AM
Snake was okay, in my opinion, although all his smash moves were pretty slow compared to the rest of the roster.

Really, the characters I ended up playing most in Brawl were Luigi (He seemed better in Brawl than Melee to me, plus his Final Smash was fun), Zelda (because holy cow her side- and up- smash attacks are crazy powerful), and Yoshi (because egg throw is fun to annoy people with and his down+b is awesome. Same goes with Kirby.). And since I doubt any of those three will be absent from the new Smash Bros game, I'm okay with anyone they add in.

Except for more people with landmasters.

Aldurin
07-12-2012, 12:18 AM
Except for more people with landmasters.

Clearly they'll add simultaneous Final Smash mechanics and more Star Fox characters. That way you'll be having fun as Yoshi and stop in horror as three landmasters block out the sun as they hurtle toward you.

Locke cole
07-12-2012, 12:20 AM
I still think that Falco should have had an Arwing, and Wolf should have called an air strike from Leon and Panther, the two of them using weapons based on Command (Leon having that crazy all-wide lockon, and Panther having insane lasers but no lockon.)

Pip Boy
07-12-2012, 12:21 AM
That would upset the fanbase as many of us are still happily pretending that all the Starfox Games after Starfox 64 aren't cannon.

Locke cole
07-12-2012, 12:25 AM
I can understand stuff leveled at Adventure and Command, but all I get is confused when people hate on Assault.

Kyanbu The Legend
07-12-2012, 12:29 AM
If Megaman is not on that list I'm going to be soarly disappointed, Nintendo.

Loyal
07-12-2012, 12:30 AM
I can understand stuff leveled at Adventure and Command, but all I get is confused when people hate on Assault.

Everybody loved the ship parts, but a lot of people would like to pretend the on-foot missions didn't exist.

Locke cole
07-12-2012, 12:42 AM
Eh. I thought that the foot egments were relatively inoffensive. Perhaps because I was comparing them to Adventure. Except for the Aparoid Hive, or any moment when you're expected to shoot down bogeys for one of your teammates, on foot. Protip, Krystal. Learn how to do a freaking somersault.

Jagos
07-12-2012, 01:03 AM
If Megaman is not on that list I'm going to be soarly disappointed, Nintendo.

When has Capcom ever gave a damn about their fans that didn't involve taking all of the money out of their wallets with bullshit?

synkr0nized
07-12-2012, 01:19 AM
So this popped into my head. Despite my sadness at no MewTwo, I have been pretty happy with Wolf. He's always good for a laugh (and to beat people up). This may be influenced by the stream of "Can't let you..." lines (I am a terrible person** when playing video games).

Premmy
07-12-2012, 01:52 AM
I still think that Falco should have had an Arwing, and Wolf should have called an air strike from Leon and Panther, the two of them using weapons based on Command (Leon having that crazy all-wide lockon, and Panther having insane lasers but no lockon.)
Falco's Final Smash Call has to be the biggest troll (http://youtu.be/jKCJpvNqxaI?t=16s) in the game.

Meister
07-12-2012, 02:14 AM
If Megaman is not on that list I'm going to be soarly disappointed, Nintendo.
I don't think Nintendo have anything to do with that list nor are they going to visit the comments and write him in :hush:

PCD
07-12-2012, 02:37 AM
Would he be as he normally is seen, or the spoileriffic form from the end of the game? Because the latter would be hilarious to use as a fighter.

He would be generally seen as the spectacle-wearing spirit, and for different moves turn into different objects he could possess--a lamp, an extending ladder, a hat, etc. Dashing is moving through a telephone line.

Okay add him to the three I mentioned in my first post, and also Fawful from Mario RPG, and this game will officially be perfect in everything ever.

Kyanbu The Legend
07-12-2012, 02:40 AM
When has Capcom ever gave a damn about their fans that didn't involve taking all of the money out of their wallets with bullshit?

Project X Zone if it turns out okay. (megaman X and Zero are in it).

Anyway I voted for Riddley, Sami, and Ray01.

Aerozord
07-12-2012, 03:32 AM
If Megaman is not on that list I'm going to be soarly disappointed, Nintendo.

yea and then when kirby eats him and takes his power to beat people and, take their powers.. :raise:

akaSM
07-12-2012, 04:46 AM
When has Capcom ever gave a damn about their fans that didn't involve taking all of the money out of their wallets with bullshit?

Tatsunoko VS Capcom, too bad MvC3 didn't follow it's steps :/

EDIT: except for the horrible synthesizer music (synthesizer is fine and can be awesome, look at VS games pre MvC), the US TvC may have generic music but at least has a better synthesizer than the Japanese version, which has cheap sounding music. The MvC3 music sounds a bit too meh compared to previous themes.

Jagos
07-12-2012, 08:37 AM
Project X Zone if it turns out okay. (megaman X and Zero are in it).



So are they bringing it to the US?

Locke cole
07-12-2012, 08:42 AM
You know who would be a better Mother 3 rep than Flint? Duster.

synkr0nized
07-12-2012, 11:15 AM
Tetris pieces -- Tetriminos

mauve
07-12-2012, 01:01 PM
He would be generally seen as the spectacle-wearing spirit, and for different moves turn into different objects he could possess--a lamp, an extending ladder, a hat, etc. Dashing is moving through a telephone line. YES. THIS IS THE BEST THING.

and also Fawful from Mario RPG I WOULD SERIOUSLY BUY A WII U JUST TO PLAY THIS GAME. I don't care if Fawful and Sissel were the worst characters in the game; I would main them and it would be glorious forever.

Fawful could use his inventions as his smash attacks, and his taunts could be either his FURURURURURU laugh or some random Fawful-ism insult. It would be GLORIOUS.

Locke cole
07-15-2012, 10:12 PM
Yest lttin y'all know that They have moved to the Semifinal round (http://vgtribune.com/smash-poll-2012-semifinals/). This time, you can vote for 8 of the contestants.

But man, Dunsparce? I guess they had to honor their word that the most requested write-in guys would get in, but man. Seriously?

Nikose Tyris
07-15-2012, 10:24 PM
Voting Dunsparce.

Aldurin
07-15-2012, 10:44 PM
But man, Dunsparce? I guess they had to honor their word that the most requested write-in guys would get in, but man. Seriously?

This is why the internet can't shouldn't have nice things.

EDIT: And Dunsparce holds 3rd place so far. I feel the urge to murder some pokefans, and our only hope now is that Game Freak strong-arms the developers into doing a more badass pokemon.

Magus
07-15-2012, 11:05 PM
Oh, man, I loved playing with Snake. I think he became my "thing". And yeah I think he was overpowered, can't remember too much (played Brawl way less than I had played Melee). But I think it was because you could shoot a rocket launcher literally at your feet. That was his best move.

Tetris pieces -- Tetriminos

I remember calling these tetrads my whole life because of Startropics II: Zoda's Revenge. I was pretty blown away when I found that are called tetriminos.

Aerozord
07-15-2012, 11:25 PM
lets be honest, winner will be who ever is most popular with people that know how to program auto-voting bots

also, how is waluigi the second highest. he's like a non-character

Nikose Tyris
07-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Honestly, I can see Dunsparce being excellent and playing to the style of character I prefer playing, too. On the smallish side, relatively quick pacing, with a luigi-style launch "Take down", and Flail being move options. It's very different from all the other contenders, too, which for a 5 foot long snake based on the Coatl, Feathered Serpents.

I'm quite serious in voting for this thing, it would be a unique addition that I doubt we'd get in any other situation.

Flarecobra
07-15-2012, 11:32 PM
This is why the internet can't shouldn't have nice things.

EDIT: And Dunsparce holds 3rd place so far. I feel the urge to murder some pokefans, and our only hope now is that Game Freak strong-arms the developers into doing a more badass pokemon.

*Recalls how I had a Dunsparce that just MURDERED WITH RAGE before in Crystal...*

Locke cole
07-15-2012, 11:47 PM
I can't see the results for some reason. How is Shulk doing?

akaSM
07-15-2012, 11:49 PM
I can't see the results for some reason. How is Shulk doing?

http://i.imgur.com/EnwX0.png

synkr0nized
07-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Waluigi is on that list.

I loving hate Smash Bros. players.

Locke cole
07-16-2012, 12:42 AM
Hey, I didn't vote for him. Twice.

Which is to say, I didn't vote for him in either poll.

Glad to see Shulk topping the list, still.

Locke cole
07-16-2012, 02:07 PM
Dunsparce and Waluigi are first and second, with Shulk in third.

I need a drink.

rpgdemon
07-16-2012, 03:32 PM
I didn't vote Dunsparce, but I actually wish I had, not as a joke, but because I like light characters who are fast and Pichu-like. Heck, I'd love Pichu back.

Ramary
07-16-2012, 05:49 PM
I am not sure why anyone cares about this vote, I believe Sakurai said that he did not want to make the roaster any bigger. The vote is also being done by a no-name site that is probably doing this solely to get their name out there, and it is still getting vote bombed by 4chan anyway cause that is what they do with public polls.

I don't get it.

Oh right, here is a link for what Sakurai said. (http://www.destructoid.com/sakurai-don-t-expect-more-characters-for-next-smash-bros-230594.phtml) I guess he could cut characters for new ones, but that means SOMEONE is gonna lose a character they like, it will be hard to make people happy.

Flarecobra
07-16-2012, 06:43 PM
I note that one can vote over and over again.

Ramary
07-16-2012, 06:53 PM
I note that one can vote over and over again.

HAHA seriously? I changed my mind, this is the best poll ever.

Locke cole
07-16-2012, 07:24 PM
Well, that article from Sakurai isn't quite an absolute, it's safely speaking in "maybe"s and "might"s. I figure a handful of new guys (not like, a dozen) would be capable of being done well and balanced, if they focus.

Aerozord
07-16-2012, 10:01 PM
Well, that article from Sakurai isn't quite an absolute, it's safely speaking in "maybe"s and "might"s. I figure a handful of new guys (not like, a dozen) would be capable of being done well and balanced, if they focus.

thats probably to cover his own butt because he knows he can be overruled

Locke cole
07-17-2012, 11:33 AM
Precisely

Also, the poll has turned into a total fiasco. Dunsparce is why we can't have nice things.

Flarecobra
07-17-2012, 11:51 AM
I love how there's twice the number of votes as there are voters pretty much.