"Star Wars Vidjyagames!" or "Seperating The Wheat From The Chaff"

[Seil]

I'm always late to the party. For the most part, I've always had next door neighbors who have owned SNES', or Genis... Genesii... Geniseses. I remember that even in the days of the Atari. But the only thing that we ever had was a Commadore that was handed down from a family friend that only played Parsec (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBWai5PZX50). (For those of you who want to play that right now, here's a cheap clone (http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/fullscreen.php?game=RaidenX).) I didn't have video games of my own until I bought my own GBA. I earned $70 for painting a friend's fence. The next time I was in town, I immediately went to a thrift store to see how I could spend it, and someone had recently dropped of a GBA.

The point I'm trying to make here is that I was, and still am, never really on the ball with video games. My older favorites are still Quest For Glory V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtx_fpdi06w), Descent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RnacEU9-v0), Third Courier (http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Commodore_Amiga/Snap/big/Third_Courier_-_1990_-_Accolade.jpg)... and only in the last few years is it that I've stepped into the future: Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic.

Yeah. But it's great. I messed around with it two years ago (because everyone claimed it was one of the best games of the last console generation.) and I loved it. I was always a little disappointed, though, because I couldn't find Knights Of The Old Republic 2 on Steam. Recently, I got a new laptop, and had to re-install everything via a terrible internet connection and Steam, and as I was looking through the games that I thought would be worth a re-download, I found KOTOR. I thought, 'That might be fun.' So now I'm hooked on Star Wars again, listening to this on endless repeat:

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and I recently found out that Steam has released KOTOR2 on Steam. ...And wow, is it not as great as the first one was. The swoop races are all wrong. They're all wrong and now I'm a broke ass Jedi. And where are all these new Force powers coming from? At least I still have my T4 droid, that dude is rad.

While I was checking out the list of Star Wars games on Steam, I noticed that there are... well, there's a lot of Star Wars games on Steam. Which ones are worth my $5?

[Flarecobra]

The Jedi Knight series wasn't too bad... though I have not played them myself sadly. Empire At War is also pretty fun if you're into RTS games.

[POS Industries]

Seil, please be advised that we have a video game subforum that I keep having to move your video game threads into because you're not putting them there.

Also please be advised that, if you like KOTOR, you'll probably hate SWTOR. Also you'll hate it if you like Star Wars in general. Or if you like video games at all. Or are a fan of competent business practices.

The voice acting isn't too bad, though.

[Revising Ocelot]

KOTOR 2 was inherently broken thanks to Obsidian getting screwed over by LucasArts (have they ever not been screwed over?), but I hear there's a complete mod overhaul that fixes up the broken stuff and makes it the superior game to KOTOR 1.

There's a RPS article that describes the process here. (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/03/the-fixer-how-to-restore-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii/)

I never played KOTOR 2. I have vague memories of KOTOR 1, but I can't for the life of me remember what I played it on and when. I recall HK-47 mentioning a 2% chance that a Jawa wished to be blasted by him.

Other than that I played Battlefront 2. Was great fun in multiplayer, especially since the people I was "friends" with at the time would tolerate other modes than the Mos Eisley lightsaber-fest.

[Azisien]

KOTOR 2 can be juiced up with mods, it's good.

Battlefront II was fun back in the day, but I do not think it aged all that well. That logic might apply to Jedi Academy too, but damn, I am not playing Jedi Academy again because I don't want the cold, hard fist of reality to ruin my wonderful, rose-tinted nostalgia of the lightsaber fights I used to have in that game.

Empire at War Gold is a solid, pretty large scale RTS. Nothing too special, but if you like building up big armies and moving them around and playing RTS to Star Wars music with Star Wars units, it's a great choice, probably the best.

I never played the Force Unleashed games. Popular opinion seems to be, first one was playable bordering decent, second was mostly crap.

[Seil]

Also please be advised that, if you like KOTOR, you'll probably hate SWTOR. Also you'll hate it if you like Star Wars in general. Or if you like video games at all. Or are a fan of competent business practices.

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong subforum.

The Steam SW game list goes like this. (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_5_9__12&term=star+wars) I'm more interested to know about the older games rather than the newer games because while The Force Unleashed looks okay, and SWTOR looks to be worth a look, (or not) the older ones would bring a wave of 90's era nostalgia. If my computer would play them. What are the problems with The Old Republic?

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The main problems with KOTOR 2 versus it's predecessor are that they've changed the interface. I understand that it's a new game, they can't keep the same plot or characters, they have to change the framing device - the neat and organized planet to planet travel system that worked so well, and there's got to be a bit of a graphics overhaul. But KOTOR 1 had a solid interface - the menu system was easy to understand, easy to look through... now that they've changed it, it just seems really cluttered. I can't just "use" a medpac, I have to "select" the medpac and then click on my character's portrait.

Oh, for the days of Star Wars FPS':

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EDIT: I will have to learn how to use mods to buff my Steam games. Or how to use mods at all.

[Azisien]

Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy are both excellent games.

But they pale in comparison to...

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[Ramary]

Jedi Outcast/Academy are some of my favorite games ever (Fun Fact: I met Karesh from a "fight club" group on Academy)

Battlefront 2 is pretty awesome, even with bots. Online is pretty dead now though

KOTOR is good, KOTOR 2 is an unfinished game that is somehow better then 1 anyway, SWTOR is the Bane of Man, and an absolutely terrible F2P game, if you must play it, play an imperial agent.

Empire at War is half a great game (space combat) half a meh game (land combat).

Republic Commando is better then you would think, but it is a tad aged now.

Lego Star Wars is actually pretty awesome, good gameplay and humor.

TFU 1 is alright, TFU 2 is shit.

That is the steam games plus TOR, if you want to know about any other Star Wars game, ask me, I played almost all of them.

EDIT: I will have to learn how to use mods to buff my Steam games. Or how to use mods at all.

Depends on the game, but it is usually "Put this file in this folder". Most mods come with readme.txt files. Your Steam games are usually in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common.

[CABAL49]

I thought the swoop races in KOTOR 2 were easier. Granted I did use the classic glitch towards the end that allowed you to beat every race in a second.

[Seil]

I don't know about any glitch, but every race seems pretty choppy (might have something to do with the video card in my laptop), the new jump mechanic is a little difficult on a track you don't know well, and there's a lot of visual distraction on the first track you play. Add that to the fact that I couldn't find one person to tell me the new controls...

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[stefan]

There's SWGEmu, which is a fanproject trying to rebuild Star Wars Galaxies from during that short period where it was actually kind of fun before the combat upgrade/NGE turned it to shit. They've got a surprising amount of content rebuilt, though they don't have the Jump to Lightspeed ship sim aspect or Jedi in yet.

[Bells]

i just wanted to be the one to come here and point out that The force unleash is not good. At all.

Albeit, i only played the first one on the Wii, which is the inferior version, still... that subset of games is just pure tripe.

[Flarecobra]

TFU is.... rentable. If anything just for the fact you can use a stormtrooper as a wreaking ball if you know what you're doing.

Though I admit... my main soft spot are the flight sim games like the X-wing/TIE Fighter series.

[mauve]

My sister and I regularly played Battlefront and Battlefront 2 back in the day. The PS2 version of BF2 was fairly buggy: Audio would glitch out in Jabba's Palace regularly, but it was still fun. The ability to play as Heroes/Villains occasionally was amusing for a while, although it does get old. Eventually my sis and I would pass up playing as Luke, Vader or Kit Fisto because the standard rebel soldier/ stormie was a bazillion times better at everything once you level up enough. Also, the ability to play All Heroes Vs All Villains in Mos Eisley is fun as long as you accept the fact that Villain Team always wins. Whoever knows how to play as Darth Maul will carry the entire team and inevitably win. Because Maul was obviously not designed to be used constantly in multiplayer. He's really cheap. Also, Team Evil has 3 non-Force-using people: Boba, Jango and Grevious. The Fetts have flamethrowers and jetpacks and Grevious has 2 lightsabers and a super powerful rush attack on par with Maul's. Team Hero gets Chewie, Han and Leia. They have... pistols and a wookie bowcaster. Leia can give allies a shield. That's about it. But if you accept the fact that the hero team will lose when Maul is not an NPC, it's still enjoyable. Having Aayla Secura troll Boba Fett by constantly Force Pushing and Force Pulling him across the map while he tries to jetpack-fly away makes up for Maul Insta-Kill Combos. Almost.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I'm still pissed I don't have my Han Solo; Intergalactic Smuggler game yet.

[synkr0nized]

Hope this helps, Seil!

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[Seil]

man, kreia is a bitch.

[Ramary]

Nah, she just doesn't believe in the power of friendship.

[Seil]

oh god. oh god. oh my god. i just have to stop talking to people. everyone hates me. i have no influence. i am not influential.

it's all like 'Save the Sith assassin. It's okay. She can be redeemed. Trust the assassin droid, we can take him.' now the handmaiden hates me, kreia's on my ass about... everything and my little buddy T3 looks all nefarious and junk, what with the foreshadowing and the secrecy.

that's it. no more talking with companions.

---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------

I NEVER INTENDED OUR NAKED DUELING TO GO THIS FAR, HANDMAIDEN! WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!

[Ecks]

that's what you get for playing lightside seil
fyi kreia is a bitch about everything. there is a convo on nar shadaa right near the beginning where you cannot win no matter what choice you make.

stopped giving a shit about influence with her right then and there
be buddies with hk, he's more fun and his dialogue with dark!exile is hilarious

[CABAL49]

Krei likes choices where you are aware of your actions and assert yourself. But she does lead to more dark side choices. She is against blindly following the dark side and is critical of the Sith, but does also prefer self interest.

Somehow I got Handmaiden and Visas to both like me, but I don't remember how. HK likes it when you kill a lot of people. Bao Dur generally follows you no matter what. Mandalore prefers the strategic options and doesn't like it when you hold a grudge. Atton follows you if you do his backstory right. Just take what he says seriously. I never really bothered with Go-To.

[Seil]

man kreia, what a bitch, amirite?

so i'm just waiting for T3 and HK to become jedi.

oh, so let's make the entire second half of the game one long cutscene where you control every individual member by themselves. that won't seem rushed!

is it okay to be super powered with super speed and fancy lightsabers at the end?

[Krylo]

Kreia is awesome.

Lucasarts rushed production and fucked up the game.

Speed and lightsabers are all anyone needs.

[Magus]

I thought the swoop races in KOTOR 2 were easier. Granted I did use the classic glitch towards the end that allowed you to beat every race in a second.

I'm sometimes not even sure things like those are actually glitches as opposed to something the creators put in to help assuage player rage at not being able to beat the race even after several frustrating tries..

The San Andreas bike race glitch was the best. Just stop right before the finish line, calmly snipe everyone who got there before you off their bikes with the sniper rifle, and then swagger across that finish line like a motherfucker.