Cyber-Ninjas in Space - A Warframe Thread

[Arcanum]

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So let's get the basics out of the way first: What the hell is Warframe?

It's a free-to-play co-op third-person shooter PvE dungeon-crawler. You and up to three friends (or random internet folks) work your way through semi-randomly generated maps to complete whatever objective you are given for that mission. The game blends shooting, casting skills, and melee combat, along with very fun and fluid movement and free-running mechanics.

The available weaponry includes assault rifles, shotguns, snipers, swords, daggers, axes, hammers, staves, smgs, pistols, hell there's even a bow. You have a single melee button instead of needing to swap to your melee weapon, but there's still combos and charge attacks that give it some nice depth.

Most importantly Digital Extremes, the devs behind the game, actually listen to the fans. The game is being constantly updated and has improved a ridiculous amount since I started playing in closed beta. And to top it off the game is extremely fun and I recommend everyone gives it a go.


That right there is the TL;DR version, but brace yourselves. What started out as a simple "check out this game" thread evolved into a sort of guide to your first moments in Warframe. If you're satisfied with the TL;DR version and just want to know where the micro-transactions are at, I talk about that at the very bottom in the last section so you can skip to that. Anyway, enjoy.

A Frame of Your Very Own

When you start playing you get to choose from one of three starter frames. http://i.imgur.com/03b2vQV.png, http://i.imgur.com/ZyVzumU.png, http://i.imgur.com/6emmQtg.png.

Every Warframe has four unique* abilities that are a huge part of gameplay, and these three starter Frames are only the tip of the iceberg. I might talk a bit more about the other Frames later on, but for now I'll keep it to the starting three.

*there's a bit of an overlap in some of their "ultimate" abilities, where a lot of them tend to be large AoE damage moves

I don't know if they updated the starting tutorial, but when I played it they didn't give you much information on the three starting frames, so here's some info on each to help you decide.

Volt: Volt is a caster-type Warframe, with high-damage electric abilities. His ultimate is one of the most devastating in the game, as it covers a huge area and deals insane damage. This emphasis on skills comes at a cost of reduced health, but you have higher base energy to allow you more frequent casting.

Loki: Loki is a stealth-type Frame, with no direct damage skills. He can use a decoy, instantly switch places with an enemy or ally, briefly turn invisible (giving him a massive damage boost while cloaked, and attacking doesn't break the cloak), and disarm enemies around him, forcing them to fight like gentlemen (with their fists). He is extremely versatile, but you will be relying more on your guns and your melee weapon to deal damage.

Excalibur: Excalibur is a "balanced" frame according to the game, but really he's an up-close-and-personal damage dealer. He can dash into combat, dealing significant damage to any enemy he passes through, or use his ultimate to launch swords at every nearby enemy, pinning them to the walls. He also has a blind, and a super-jump to improve is vertical movement capabilities. He is an extremely powerful frame, with little to no drawbacks.

Getting Started: Missions

After you have cleared the tutorial and picked your Frame, http://i.imgur.com/wCudPsW.jpg

Yes, just a simple map of the solar system (along with some extra planets/moons). However, each planet is a hub for a wide variety of missions. Clicking on a planet will show you http://i.imgur.com/wllf2Cn.jpg

Each of those circles are missions, and every mission has a different objective. Hovering your mouse over one of them will tell you what the mission is, what faction you will be fighting, and what level of enemies you will face. http://i.imgur.com/ALARZRi.png

I'll take more about Factions in a moment. For now, missions. No two missions are the same thanks to two things.

First, the random map generation is pretty great. You will see a lot of the same compartments used across missions, but the way they are connected and the overall map layout can change drastically. There are also three tilesets: A Corpus spaceship, Grineer asteroid base, and an icy outdoors research station that I can only explain with "maybe a terraformed moon/asteroid."

Second, your mission is always subject to change. You may start out trying to destroy a reactor, but the RNG might decide, nah, you're just going to kill everyone aboard the vessel. Or maybe after you rescue a hostage you have to download and extract data from their network. The objectives changing on the fly help spice up otherwise repetitive content.

Factions

There are four factions in the game, the one you are a part of and the three you fight against, each with their own quirks. So let's just jump right in.

Tenno: You are a Tenno. A mysterious warrior capable of operating Warframes. The Tenno are the only ones who can use Warframes, and have just recently been woken from a very long period of stasis. The Solar System is a mess and they're here to clean it up.

Grineer: The Grineer are humans that have begun to degrade through excessive cloning. They are heavily armored, so all but a few weapons deal reduced damage to them (unless you're aiming for their exposed heads). The Grineer also employ "commando" units, powerful elite foes that can take, and dish out, a severe beating.

Corpus: The Corpus forsake the brutality of the Grineer in favor of the elegance of machinery. Expect to fight swarms of "Moa" mechs, bipedal shielded drones with mounted plasma weaponry. There are also humanoid, biological Corpus, but don't try landing a headshot on them; their helmets are heavily armored. But don't worry, they rely on energy shields to protect the rest of their body so some sustained fire is all it takes to mow them down. Also, keep an eye out on the ceiling for security cameras. If they spot you the Corpus laser defenses and auto-turrets will activate, and will only deactivate if you destroy the camera that has you in its sights.

Infested: Think zombies, or the flood from Halo. The Infested does exactly that: infests and mutates both the Corpus and Grineer to its own designs. Fortunately for you these things are extremely flammable, and their fleshy nature makes them easy prey to a sword.

Now as I said earlier every mission you will go up against one of these three factions, but that's not entirely true. There's always a chance your mission will be invaded by another faction, turning the mission into a three way brawl. Or, you can just let them fight each other while you slip by unnoticed.

Your Loadout

You can equip your Tenno with three weapons: A primary, a pistol, and a melee weapon. Most weapons can be bought with in-game credits in the game's Market, but some weapons you can only buy the blueprint with credits and need to craft the actual weapon (more on crafting later). Primary weapons run the gamut of rifles, snipers, shotguns, and as mentioned above even a bow. What you use depends entirely on your play style. With pistols you have your standard pistol, dual pistols, smgs (and dual smgs), revolver-level pistols, and even pistols that fire bolts that can pin enemies to walls.

And finally melee weapons, ranging from swords to staves to axes, blah blah I said it all up top. There are also dual-wield varieties of a few weapons. You only have one melee button, but tapping it gives you a simplistic combo, and holding it starts a charge attack. If you're sprinting you can crouch to go into a slide and then perform a sliding melee attack (usually a rapid spinning slash), and even an aerial melee to knock foes to the ground, where you can then tap your melee button to deliver a ground finisher. Melee weapons also have get a massive damage bonus on unaware enemies, allowing you to try your hand at stealth until the shit inevitably hits the fan. Of course getting into melee range can be risky, but sending your foes flying with a warhammer, or cutting a group in half with twin axes swinging in a blur is extremely satisfying.

Unlimited Power

Alright you know the basics of the game, now how do you gain the power of a Ninja Space God? The mod system.

Honestly, 4l7oINT7CuU is a great way to understand the system. That's the official tutorial released by the devs.

But I'll try to give you the short and sweet version. Mods are items that are randomly dropped by enemies as you play the game. Low level enemies are more likely to drop low rarity mods, whereas high level enemies drop rarer mods. Even your skills are technically mods, albeit mods specific to each individual Frame. Every Frame and every weapon has 8 mod slots. So if you wanted you could only slot 3 of your 4 abilities in favor of having an extra passive bonus. However, Frames and weapons have a limited "power capacity." The better the mod, the more power is required to slot it. Every time your Frame or weapon levels up, it gains 1 power capacity, up to a max of 30 (this can be doubled to 60 if you "supercharge" your Frame or weapon, but more on that later). You can't stack multiples of the same mod, but you can upgrade mods through the fusion system (and fusing duplicates is the most effective way to level up mods).

Honestly, if you watch the tutorial, and mess around with it a bit in-game, it all clicks into place and is very intuitive.

But This Is F2P, What's the Catch?

Remember when I said this game is a dungeon crawler? Well mods aren't the only loot you can find. Enemies will also randomly drop crafting materials. Every planet has three materials that drop in that region (usually common, uncommon, and rare drop rates), and the various materials are used to craft new weapons and Warframes. You buy blueprints in the game's market with in-game credits (that you earn from looting, killing enemies, and completing missions) and then you use the required materials to build that item. Just playing through the game (playing a mission unlocks the next missions its linked to on the map, so you kind of carve your path through the solar system) will net you enough materials to craft a few things as you need/want them without needing to grind much.

But in the end you will resort to grinding for a few things. 1) Rare materials can be a pain in the ass to get. They have a higher drop chance from bosses, but it's still a pain. 2) Rubedo. This uncommon material is needed for everything (okay, almost everything) and you need a damn lot of it. 3) Depending how much time you spend in Venus before moving to other planets, Alloy Plate is also a pain for the amount needed in warframes and certain weapons.

4) Warframe Blueprint parts. Yeah this merits its own paragraph. You need more than just the blueprint you buy on the market to build a new Warframe. The market blueprint is just for assembling the three pieces of the Warframe into its complete, usable form. To build those parts you need to farm the boss that drops those blueprints. If you're lucky, you'll get all the blueprints you need in about 4-5 runs (that's the best I've managed). If you're unlucky, you'll be doing 20-30 runs (I've been really unlucky at times). At the very least you'll be getting a rare material or a blueprint duplicate that you can sell for credits.

Anway, what does all this crafting talk have to do with the F2Pness of the game?
http://i.imgur.com/QSq2u4l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kOD2m9D.jpg

Notice the times on the bottom right of those tabs? Yes that's right, from 12 to 24 hours is how long it takes to craft most things, and it takes 3 whole days to assemble a new Warframe. You can build any amount of items simultaneously, but it's still a hefty time sink, and that's where they get you. You can skip all the farming, all the crafting, and all the wait times, and get any Warframe or weapon with "Platinum" that you buy with real money.

Fortunately nothing essential is hidden behind a pay wall. Everything that has an impact on the game (weapons, frames, the reactors/catalysts used to supercharge items, alternate helmets that modify base stats slightly) can be crafted in the game. The only things that can not be obtained without platinum are additional color palettes, and timed exp/credit boosts.

However, some of these items, such as those used to supercharge your frame/weapon and double their power capacity, alternate helmets, and several melee weapons are only obtainable through "Alert" missions. Alert missions are timed events that happen at random times. http://i.imgur.com/pDUtTZW.jpg

Usually alert missions only offer bonus credits, but occasionally a question mark will show up in the rewards section, and that means there's one of these rare items up for grabs. The item reward in a "? Alert" (as they're called) is the same for all players, and there's an entire subforum on the Warframe forums dedicated to letting people know when these Alerts happen, as well as a Steam group. (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WFAlerts)

The biggest culprit here is the Reactors/Catalysts, items used to Supercharge your Warframe or weapon, thus doubling its energy capacity for mods (boosting it from 1 per level to 2 per level, with the max doubling from 30 to 60). While Supercharging your frame and weapons isn't entirely necessary, it will make the late-game levels (mostly Pluto missions) much more challenging. It can also be disheartening knowing you missed one of these items because you were asleep or at work.

The crafting times and the randomness of "? Alerts" are the two biggest gripes free players have with the game, but overall it's not that bad compared to many other F2P games out there right now.

Well, that about concludes my intro guide to Warframe. I absolutely love this game and I recommend everyone gives it a shot. It's free, so you have nothing to lose.

[Aldurin]

Was going to try it tomorrow if I had time. Now I'm going to try it tomorrow, and maybe the next day, since I think I still have sick days left.

EDIT: "Tomorrow" as in "8 hours from now when I get my sleep from just getting off of work" not "tomorrow because I'm playing Metal Gear Rising some more today".

[Bells]

Loki all the way here man!

Just to add more to it, it must be said that this is a good looking game (even though the enviroments are a bit lifeless) but the flavor and presentation are absolutely stunning. Through the roof value! I was truly impress. This game feels unique on flavor alone and made me surprised to see it being a F2P game. It has bacsktory, cinematics and even a plot and its all detailed and gorgeous looking. Also your character are trully badass beyond the basic Space Marine which is fucking awesome.

ALSO ALSO there is the fact that you can customize the color of your fram and each weapon, which allowed me to have Jetstream Sam`s Katana...

...this really does feel like a Nerfed Metal Gear Rising. Specially when you rush an enemy, holding E and that slash comes and the top of the enemy goes flying into the distance... it's very satsifying.

On the note of satisfaction, although you can in fact purchase power with real cash, the game does reward you fairly each mission. Allowing for invested players to stay away from microtransactions if they choose to.

I will suggest though that you check your mouse sensitivity. Mine was way too loose and i had to bring it back down quite a bit to not have my camera flailing about with each sword swing.

I will definitely keep this one... i might even drop some cash in it if it proves fun in the long run. i would certianly love to see a NPF guild in there somewhere, cause this game is made to be fun with friends and dumbass players can hamper your experience real easy.

[Arcanum]

...this really does feel like a Nerfed Metal Gear Rising. Specially when you rush an enemy, holding E and that slash comes and the top of the enemy goes flying into the distance... it's very satsifying.

The thing is, MGR is focused entirely on the swordplay, whereas Warframe focuses on a combination of guns, melee, and abilities. Still, the melee combat is a bit underpowered. It's usually much more effective, and safer, to kill enemies at range with your guns/powers. But personally, I find that makes the melee more rewarding.

I will suggest though that you check your mouse sensitivity. Mine was way too loose and i had to bring it back down quite a bit to not have my camera flailing about with each sword swing.

Yeah I got a friend to try the game the other night and he said the starting sensitivity was through the roof (and he usually loves his sensitivity extremely high).

i would certianly love to see a NPF guild in there somewhere, cause this game is made to be fun with friends and dumbass players can hamper your experience real easy.

I have a clan that I made for fun that's just a couple of friends, but it's been a while since any of them played. Really the only reason I made the clan was because I couldn't not make "Super Sentai Tenno Gaiden" a thing. So I'm willing to adapt the clan to serve a more NPF-centric purpose.

Also my in-game name is "ArcanumMBD" so feel free to shoot me a friend invite.

[Bells]

5% of my ingame lag is me pressing F12 randomly while i play

So here we go, for those who don't know what Warframe looks like just yet

http://i49.tinypic.com/2jacm84.jpg

Here is Arcanum showing off his fire that turns all screens forever red everywhere, and myself trying to look kinda cool in the shot...


Also, when i said that the maps ore a bit bland was that i haven't seen all the maps yet... these outdoor ones and the infection ones though... those are pretty damn colorful!


EDIT: Also my in game name is Bells so anybody signing up, give a call!

[akaSM]

Co-op?

Dungeon crawler?

I'll finish reading the post later, I have to download this NOW.

EDIT: Holy Oreos, Digital Extremes made thsi game? They made my favorite pinball game ever <3

[Aldurin]

My in-game is Derpesque because I haven't finished killing off all of the people who think of using Aldurin as their username. Played through a couple missions, though due to time stuff I probably won't be able to do much for a week or so.

Also other players turn out to be victims of lag and/or retardation. My first run involved me waiting five minutes so that the other people could catch up to me so that I could open the two-button door in the level (made worse by the fact that part of the path involved going into an open wall panel that apparently was invisible to everyone else until I walked back and forth through it).

My only other issue is that memory leaks cause the game to outright break in two, instead of other games that stop displaying for 3 seconds while the computer casts Revivify on the video driver (still need to figure out what's making me have these memory leaks in the first place).

[Bells]

to help along with stuck people, specially in the two button doors (cause there might be a ton of new players running around) press G while aiming at the second door button, this will create a digital mark on the map that the other player will see and that looks similar to the objective mark. In most cases this "steer" the other players to your location based on Gaming Reflex alone.

[lazy man]

So, this game. Awesome as it is, I think I started it at the worst time possible. First I started playing Dota. Then Tomb Raider and God of War came out. Now Bioshock came out. AND I have real life times to throw in there as well. Just... no time to play!

BUT, if you give me a good enough reason (and a Wednesday or Thursday evening), I might just put one of those other games off and play with you guys. Of course I've only cleared Mercury, but... eh, multiplayer.

My tag's Lazigen if people want to send me a friend invite. After that just pester me and see if I'm actually available.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

If I can get this to run on my Latop I might give it a try. It's looks pretty cool and I like the designs of the frames.

[Aldurin]

Go teams, it's fun, it's chaotic and you do not want to solo any mission that has infested enemies. Shit is scary son.

[Bells]

Yeah, i was in a team rushing my first Infested map, i went all "Fuck yeah i gonna ninja-slash these assholes"

And then my screen turns into a Red/Blue blur as i get juggled around for a few seconds and then drop dead.

Also, Arcanum teached me how to wall run and wall jump, when i first saw that i was totally going "ERMERGHED GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!"

So, yeah... Run with Shift, Hold spacebar when near a wall or cliff side. Run, Jump and press Crtl for a sick flying kick. Run and Press Ctrl for an awesome slide.

this game is really insane, i love it.

[Arcanum]

I just found this out recently: There is a parry/block button. Default keybinding is Mouse 4, but you can change it in the options. Holding the button down while facing someone who's shooting at you will have you deflect some of the shots (you still technically get hit and take damage but it's reduced). Although apparently it doesn't work on melee yet.

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Easter update! Loot cans are now eggs, and enemies have bunny ears! Also there's a hideous pastel colour palette available in the market for 1 credit! Hooraaayyyyy!

[Ryong]

Did some missions with Arc and when I decided to give up every mod I had for radial javelin he went "that thing's going to cost ya".

Cost me 2k damage on a boss that had just downed him.

[Arcanum]

In my defense my skill that reflects any damage I receive to a nearby enemy ran out right as his melee hit me.

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Word on the street is Update 8 will be clan-focused, which is nice because clans are extremely bare-bones right now. What's even better is that apparently they are working at implementing trading, and that it will most likely be restricted to between clan members. It's that last bit that has people hopeful that trading will be included in Update 8, but we shall see!

[Aldurin]

Word on the street is Update 8 will be clan-focused, which is nice because clans are extremely bare-bones right now. What's even better is that apparently they are working at implementing trading, and that it will most likely be restricted to between clan members. It's that last bit that has people hopeful that trading will be included in Update 8, but we shall see!

Calling it now, Fusion Cores will be the base currency if credits and plat isn't used. It will be the hatconomy, just somehow with useful items.

[Bells]

Plat right now is quite useless for me... it~s too expensive to buy! the Ash Warframe was on "sale" for 350 Platinum at the shop, but to buy 500 Platinum the game asks for over $40 bucks!!

Fucking hell... considering that no Warfram is automatically more powerfull than any other (you need mods and levels) that's just insane. Same goes for any weapon that dares cost more than 50 Platninum. Its just not worth it.

On other news, i finally got my first Blueprint done. The Cronus sword, going to try it out now! Then i'll grind another 10k to buy the Ash blueprint and spent an year to build it...

[Yumil]

Volt wasnt in my list of starter frames. Mag was however. I feel like a biotic from Mass Effect playing as a Mag, still super fun.

[PyrosNine]

Pyros plays as Mag as well, and I enjoy game, though I have a bit of input lag I think, so wall running and sword stabbing are troublesome. Gonna have to tweak a bit.

But I love the fact that the players are capable of doing a stealth run of a mission, and in solo runs, going stealth is often a requirement, though i hope you can later get things like enemy radar or seeing enemies through walls, because nothing like walking into a door only for there to be two enemies right there to ruin your run.

That said, as a Mag, if I have the energy, I can kill one guy, then force Pull the other to me before he can hit the Alarm, and if I time my sword right, I can perform a insta-kill downed attack. OH YES.

When I has time and or money, i will go for a Ember frame. Cuz y'know.

Send me a steam message when ya wanna Cyborg Ninja it up!

[Aldurin]

So I'm coming up on enough cash to buy a Warframe blueprint, any recommendations? I'm currently rolling with Excalibur, which is serving me well, but I want to get into the less bullet-and-blade-focused style so I can go "ERMAGERHD ELEMENTS!" at things.

Also the charge move on melee is amazing, I'll definitely be cramming fusion cores into the Pressure Point mod to capitalize on it.

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But I love the fact that the players are capable of doing a stealth run of a mission, and in solo runs, going stealth is often a requirement, though i hope you can later get things like enemy radar or seeing enemies through walls, because nothing like walking into a door only for there to be two enemies right there to ruin your run.

I found stealth missions to be impossible on some environments, specifically those that have Moas simply because they instinctively know when to make a blind dash to your starting location (yes this happened, and then I started working on missions elsewhere once the shockwave moas started doing it).

[Bells]

i usually never double wield melee in games like these, i prefer massive damage to speed damage so i just go for two handed stuff... but the axes are so sweet looking that i totally recommend the Frost Warframe. If i can't get Ash i'll be sure to go with Frost.

[Aldurin]

Oh, and fuck Moas, in case that wasn't clear. They have the weirdest hitboxes so they're almost invincible behind waist-high cover, the shockwave version literally juggles you and it's hard to notice being hit by a Railgun Moa in the middle of a large fight. And their AI is really weird so they psychically know where you are.

[PyrosNine]

Well, it's in Beta, so if you don't like it, bring it up on the forums as something that can be fixed, the one perk of playing a beta. I do think they should implement some more stuff to allow for stealth, and probably tweak some of the enemy AI.

I have played ring around the boxes with a Grineer, and the game spawns more enemies to make up for the fact they're not intelligent enough to follow you proper.

[Ryong]

While trying to get some crap from an alert in the very first mission you fight off Infected, I died a bunch of times due to general crazy things.

First time I tried doing it, after the very first wave of chargers and leapers, two ancient disruptors and a toxicancient showed up and I had nowhere to hide or any energy to try and radial javelin them. It was a death sentence.

So I retry the mission. Go crazy careful, clear up everything always, stand on tall boxes so enemies can't get to me, shit like that. Suddenly, 20+ enemies swarm me from every side. I tried my best with slide dash and radial javelin, but there wasn't anything I could do to avoid getting killed twice.

I get the atmospheric part of "nowhere is safe" but a sudden horde of enemies because I crossed some imaginary line is just ridiculous.

[Bells]

Ancient Healer and Toxic Ancient are the only two things that can make a space super cyborg ninja flee from a room...

[Aldurin]

Yeah, part of it I think is that the game populates multiple "sections" in advance, and depending on how well they pass along how shit is fucked, you'll end up with an insurmountable section and then the next two areas in your path are inexplicably empty.

[Ryong]

Thing is, things spawned from an area I had cleared completely, that's my issue. The game is significantly easier if enemies are all coming from the same way.

[Arcanum]

So I'm coming up on enough cash to buy a Warframe blueprint, any recommendations? I'm currently rolling with Excalibur, which is serving me well, but I want to get into the less bullet-and-blade-focused style so I can go "ERMAGERHD ELEMENTS!" at things.

Also the charge move on melee is amazing, I'll definitely be cramming fusion cores into the Pressure Point mod to capitalize on it.

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I found stealth missions to be impossible on some environments, specifically those that have Moas simply because they instinctively know when to make a blind dash to your starting location (yes this happened, and then I started working on missions elsewhere once the shockwave moas started doing it).

Oh, and fuck Moas, in case that wasn't clear. They have the weirdest hitboxes so they're almost invincible behind waist-high cover, the shockwave version literally juggles you and it's hard to notice being hit by a Railgun Moa in the middle of a large fight. And their AI is really weird so they psychically know where you are.

Volt is an amazing caster frame, probably the strongest one. Ember is severely lacking damage versus Grineer (and to a lesser extent Corpus) but will tear through the Infected. Frost is an amazing tank, but I don't have personal experience with him. Saryn is another tanky frame, but her abilities can be pretty devastating to any faction.

Also, little known fact: you can jump over shockwaves to avoid the knockback. It makes dealing with shockwave moas more manageable. Also, the "head" on moas is on the lower part of their "body." So aim for the nutshots and you'll get bonus damage.


i usually never double wield melee in games like these, i prefer massive damage to speed damage so i just go for two handed stuff... but the axes are so sweet looking that i totally recommend the Frost Warframe. If i can't get Ash i'll be sure to go with Frost.

I'm not sure about the double axes, but I know the dual skana charge attack can hit 3 enemies at once. The only other melee weapons capable of hitting multiple people at once are the heavy hitters (gram, amphis, scindo, fragor), but those can also hit multiples with their regular attacks.


Ancient Healer and Toxic Ancient are the only two things that can make a space super cyborg ninja flee from a room...

Just wait until the later levels where you run into Disruptor Ancients. One hit from them and you lose all your shields and energy.

Also, to those considering getting a blueprint for your next frame, there are two big things to consider. 1) The materials needed to craft all the parts you need. http://i.imgur.com/kOD2m9D.jpg The material costs will be the same regardless of what frame you pick.

2) What boss you will have to farm to get the blueprints for the parts you need. Here is the link to the Warframe Forum post that tells you where you can find everything. (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/669-boss-locations-their-special-drops-update-75-saryn-banshee/)

edit- Oh and, if you want to know where to find what materials, when you click on a planet there will be a box on the top right of your screen with three materials. Those are the materials that drop in that area.

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Also, I just want to say that the game isn't really designed with soloing in mind. It's possible to do, even in later levels, but you have to play extremely cautiously and be sporting some hefty mods. As far as I know there is no scaling in the game, so flying solo is basically challenge mode.

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Also also, I would recommend refraining from paying the exorbitant amount of platinum they are asking for new Frames. The game is still in beta, and DE has said this includes the pricing structure. There have been a lot of complaints about the platinum costs and I would not be surprised if they dropped them in the future. Good news is there will eventually be an optional complete reset available. This will refund any platinum you spent but also throw your account back to where it started.

[PyrosNine]

I did sometimes get the gist that some missions were more like "Oh shit you've been found, you're a badass ninja, not a 1 man army, get in, do the job, and get out! ASAP" unless it's an extermination mission.

[Aldurin]

I did sometimes get the gist that some missions were more like "Oh shit you've been found, you're a badass ninja, not a 1 man army, get in, do the job, and get out! ASAP" unless it's an extermination mission.

Yeah, the big aspect of it is having spread aggro, since you die quickly if everyone is shooting at you, opposed to half or a quarter of the enemy force. That and the lack of reviving (even in MP if it bugs) makes it a very different game tactically. I'm actually thinking of building my Excalibur warframe to be a brawler, focusing with movement, defense and melee power so I can quickly pick off enemies at close range, using terrain to my advantage (I already have most of what I need to make this work, though I am considering maybe building it on a Shade just so that I get the capacity for easier stealth).

[Arcanum]

Quick warning about Shade: While it can cloak you the cloak is a tad unreliable. The cloak activates when an enemy enters a certain radius around you (not sure what that radius is, but it's relatively small). Also, if there are enemies around you, the cloak will activate at soon as its cooldown (which you can't see) is up. Also, the cloak only cloaks you. The Shade will still be visible, and enemies will be alerted by it, or shoot at it (and possibly killing it, leaving you sentinel-less for the rest of the mission). Still, it has saved me from death a few times.

But really Sentinels, with their 100k credit blueprint, are more for late-game support than something that really modifies your build.

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Oh and I can't believe I complete forgot to mention this from the beginning (I guess since I have so many frames it never occurred to me). You have 4 respawns per day, per Frame. By which I mean once you get your second Frame, if you run out of respawns on your Excalibur, you will still have 4 respawns on your Mag. Also these are just the "I died and my teammates didn't revive me fast enough / was playing solo" respawns, not how many times an ally can revive you or something silly like that, so don't feel the need to hoard your respawns since you get 4 more every day.

Oh and, since DE is based in east coast Canada, respawns refill at 00:00 EST (though technicaly, EDT now since it's daylight savings time).

[Aldurin]

Good to know for both facts. The buddy-revive function is bugged though, as sometimes you don't get the prompt and thus cannot revive a guy with the X button no matter how hard you try (happened to me when trying to save someone, must be what it's like when a fellow soldier dies in your hands).

Upgrading is agonizing because I can either save some levels to fit the next good mod that I need (diversify your weapon damage types it helps) or I can just cram fusion cores into my most powerful mod every time I level the weapon/frame. And really you can get some really good power-per-slot rate going if you take the upgraded mod route. For example I may have Killing Blow be my first maxed-out mod, since I love doing charge strikes on enemies and having that much damage would let me do it effectively on the tougher enemies, but I could probably fuck the math by holding off and combining it with Pressure Point to increase the damage even further.

[Bells]

Right now i'm working on Sundering Strike and Organ Shatter for melee 45% extra Crit damage and 30% extra Armor piercing damage. Good to save ammo and pick apart loners.

I'm also selling all my Shotgun mods and Sentinel mods simple cause i think Sentinels will be cheaper later on, or are too far away for me to bother working on them now. And i KNOW shotguns are going to end up nerfed eventually, so i'm betting on Rifles now...

Rifle with Serration and Vital sense, 30% more Rifle damage with 20% more Crit Damage. going to be a beast!

For an alternate build for defense or infestation maps, i have a more defensive set of Mods i'm working on. Fast Deflection, Redirection, Steel Fiber.... eventually i'll be able to switch between beefy tank and glass nuke as necessary! Going to work fine when i finish building Ash...

Also... i got this mod... Streamline. 5% Warframe efficiency. Anybody knows what it actually does?

[Arcanum]

Charge Damage is separate from Melee Damage. I am 70% certain this hasn't changed with Update 7. Melee Damage (and thus the damage boosted by Pressure Point) is how much damage you do with each regular swing. Charge Damage has its own base value, which is what Killing Blow is working with, and as it says on the tin this is the damage that your charge attack does.

Danger Will Robinson addon:

Shotguns have been undergoing slight balance changes since forever. The Hek used to be absolutely, mind-boggling broken. Overpowered broken. It was more ridiculous than the Gorgon (at one point in the game almost everyone used Gorgons because that's all you needed to kill everything. This point was shortly after the Hek's first nerf). I highly doubt shotguns will get a serious nerf in the future, because DE wants all weapon types to be equally viable.

With all that said, my Hek is most likely my most powerful weapon right now thanks to some lucky mod drops, with my Gorgon in close second (woo multishot). The mods I have on my Hek: 30% Fire, Lightning, Ice, AP + 0.1 puncture + 10% crit chance + 30% crit damage + 30% damage. It's great. But really, with the right mods, I can do the same thing with a rifle and make it just as strong, or even stronger, than a shotgun, with the added bonus of being able to do all that from a safe range.

Also, Streamline should say "Warframe Power Efficiency" which reduces the cost of your powers. It is a wonderful mod.

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Also, Al, if you get Reflex Coil you will be extremely happy. It increases your charge speed :)

[Ryong]

The only mod I've gone and actually upgraded - since my shit isn't strong at all, I'm running around with some very basic mods and not enough rank for a lot - is Vitality.

Because 250 health is nice.

[McTahr]

Killing Blow and Reflex Coil.

What's a gun?

I'd still kill for a Redirection to drop like, ever.

[Bells]

I've added 20% Eletrical dmg to my Rifle... and i have Decoy from Loki... Robots are now my BIATCHES!

[Arcanum]

So Digital Extremes just did a livestream Q&A. Among many things they talked about Update 8 and what's in store for clans. Specifically, clans will be able to pool resources to build their own dojo, basically a custom clan hall.

And so, since I doubt anyone can come up with a better name than Super Sentai Tenno Gaiden, I have invited everyone that is already on my friend list in Warframe to join my clan so we will be ready to pool our resources and build a sweet dojo.

[Bells]

Does this clan require players to be color coded for conveniently visually explaining their roles?

[Arcanum]

It's not required per se. There's just zero possibility of rank advancement if you fail to adhere to proper color coordination.

[Aldurin]

Yep, you can face execution for wearing the wrong colors.

I'm looking at what my next melee weapon should be, and I'm definitely thinking it should be a heavy (optimizing on the charge attack, so I can slice through the tanky guys (FUCK ANCIENT INFECTED)). I'm thinking the Fragor since it has the charge damage and jump attack that I want on top of good stun abilities. I'm just worried that the downsides (screen shaking and turtle-movement) are too strong and that the Scindo would be a safer option.

[Yumil]

Got a friend to join me last week, he got his Ash armor pretty quick and now is working on his dual zorens for some insane crit action.

I on the other hand had been pretty bad with drops and now finally have my Trinity in the oven. I'm quite excited for it as we are going to roll things with him having unlimited stealth vs bosses with my mana vampire skill. I just don't have the power efficiency mod yet for the link+vampire skill chaining, but I am really hoping I get it:O

[Bells]

So, i'm got started officially working on my first future build...

http://i45.tinypic.com/9bkwow.jpg

...i MIGHT have gotten a bit over my head here...

[Yumil]

Bells, I wouldnt mind helping you farm for it. I'm working on the akbolto as well(have my first bolto), so I need plates just as much. Also, the boss for the ash piece parts is a pushover and I wouldnt mind running him for creds/mods.

Ill throw a friend request later when I get on. I think my name is Yumil(cant be sure cuz Ive been using quasari on many games now)

[McTahr]

I'd advise against Mire, personally. What are you ideally trying to do with it? Concept? Farm X? Disco dance? Aside from concept, there are better options. Especially for disco dancing.

Akbolto is an infinite number of pains in the ass to farm, for the reason demonstrated in your SS. (having to farm together two boltos) It is, however, rather nice if you can get a hang of the bolts.

In other news: Fuck warframe / weapon slots. I have a huge stack of blueprints that I can't do anything with because I'm too anal to sell even the MK1-Braton. Everything else is capped/near capped.

[Yumil]

I'd advise against Mire, personally. What are you ideally trying to do with it? Concept? Farm X? Disco dance? Aside from concept, there are better options. Especially for disco dancing.

Akbolto is an infinite number of pains in the ass to farm, for the reason demonstrated in your SS. (having to farm together two boltos) It is, however, rather nice if you can get a hang of the bolts.

In other news: Fuck warframe / weapon slots. I have a huge stack of blueprints that I can't do anything with because I'm too anal to sell even the MK1-Braton. Everything else is capped/near capped.

Its better to sell overall. Your profile rank levels up by leveling items, so starting from scratch if you decide you want to go back to a certain loadout is beneficial. Right now rank 4 is all that matters, but sooner or later youll need higher ranks for cooler stuff.

[Bells]

Thanks to yumil i'm advancing towards my Ash build, but yeah... The Ash itself is already a pain to farm for, the AKBolts are just that 3 fold.

As for the Mire, it was mostly cause i went all "Oh look a really cool looking sword that the Wiki doesnt shit all over" so i went for it, cause the Chronus is a bit boring after a while...

Selling stuff is also VERY handy to get cash, just selling mods of stuff i don't plan to use for now (shotguns, other frames, pets) brought me up to 50k in no time flat.

[Aldurin]

As for the Mire, it was mostly cause i went all "Oh look a really cool looking sword that the Wiki doesnt shit all over" so i went for it, cause the Chronus is a bit boring after a while...

I guess that's cool, but there are other good weapons, too. Specifically going short/dual or heavy, to optimize on either KRITZ or wreckage. I'm rolling with the Fragor, probably the single most powerful melee weapon in the game (highest damage, armor bypass and HOLY SHIT THIS THING STUNS) and I am having fun. Haven't leveled it enough yet to experiment with optimizing charge damage but regular attacks are full, particularly the "ankle-biter" approach where I use slide attacks to wipe out crowds.

I do guess long weapons do make sense for a balanced option that offers a bit of every aspect, but when I wreck it then I"M GONNA WRECK IT.

[Bells]

Ah, also forgot to mention my favourite little Loki combo. Radial Disarm + Decoy.

Makes all enemies swarm a hologram with melee attacks so i can stand back and shower them with my +60% dmg +45% eletr dmg Rifle. Works like a charm and has saved my life (and team, since it distracts long enough to allow to revive someone) more than a few times.

[Yumil]

I guess that's cool, but there are other good weapons, too. Specifically going short/dual or heavy, to optimize on either KRITZ or wreckage. I'm rolling with the Fragor, probably the single most powerful melee weapon in the game (highest damage, armor bypass and HOLY SHIT THIS THING STUNS) and I am having fun. Haven't leveled it enough yet to experiment with optimizing charge damage but regular attacks are full, particularly the "ankle-biter" approach where I use slide attacks to wipe out crowds.

I do guess long weapons do make sense for a balanced option that offers a bit of every aspect, but when I wreck it then I"M GONNA WRECK IT.
I love my gram, it slices through infected like a hot knife through butter, plus its laser edges look cool.

Fragors normal attack ignoring armor is cool, but it swings so slowly and all melee weapons ignore armor on charge attacks. Ill stick to my gram.

[Kim]

I'm playing this, too. Username KimDelicious. Still using my Excalibur, which is about level 18, I think?

[Marc v4.0]

In as Magmarashi. I have no idea what I am doing!

[Bells]

Just remember that when in doubt Mash Shift + Crtl + Jump you'll probably do something cool and then fall down a pit.

[Azisien]

Well the tutorial seemed kinda like more samurai-y Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, and that's a good thing. I'm Commander_Llama.

[Bells]

Ok, so... here is the thing.

I'm tempted to go Founder on this game. HOWEVER... i'm not sure if it's worth it. First of all 50 bucks is a seriously steep price for in games in general, so this would be a VERY rare occurrence. That's why i want to make sure it's worth it...

Secondly, we alread know that the pricing scheme within the game is bonkers... Founders pack SEEMS to be better, but not by much though...

but you CAN do a lot of stuff with 1220 Platinum in this game. It is a serious boost of content and gameplay options. Plus you get an exclusive warframe, which is always nice...

i'm just not sure if its a wise bet at this point...

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EDIT:

Muthafugga is taunting us now...!! Bastard...

http://i37.tinypic.com/2eq3yme.jpg

[Bells]

So, for those in the know, there is a global event going on right now until the 6th on Europa, every tenno must help erradicate the treat to get a global reward

[Ryong]

So I went and played a bunch today after not playing in quite a while.

The result is that tomorrow I'll have a Paris and Dual Heat Swords. Also, haha 420 shield, 320 HP.

[Bells]

with Update 8 we should be getting the Dojo system, should be fun!

Also, thanks to the event, i got a part of Frost Prime and 100K so i'm almost done building my Sentry and Work on my Ash build is ramping up ok!

I have to farm earth like crazy though for Neurodes and Rubedo, but it's ok..

[Arcanum]

You can get better Ruby drops at Europa or Ceres (I think. I know Europa for sure). I mean, if you're farming Neurodes too then yeah Earth is great, but if you just want some Ruby then there are better places.

Also what makes me sad about the dojos is the high material costs it will take to build rooms.

Also, I'm pretty sure I sent everyone on my friend list (which is basically everyone who posted in this thread at some point) an invite to the Super Sentai Tenno Gaiden clan, if you're interested in playing together and/or contributing to the dojo. Plus, depending on how they implement the inter-clan trading, I might have things to give people. Maybe. I don't remember how many spare blueprints I sold when I was desperate for credits at one point, but I have some warframe blueprint parts and melee weapon blueprints that only drop from alert missions.

[Arcanum]

Update 8 is here, and the dojo with it. Unfortunately the resource costs to build additional rooms are extravagant and are basically brick-walling small and casual clans.

[Ryong]

Can we get intra-clan trades or something of the like yet?
'Cause I really need split chamber + thunderbolt for my bow.

[Arcanum]

Can we get intra-clan trades or something of the like yet?
'Cause I really need split chamber + thunderbolt for my bow.

It's being worked on. From their update notes:


- "WHERE IS TRADING?" It is still being worked on, not ready for deployment yet.
- Clan Vault is part of Trading, not yet deployed. Sit tight!

Sadly, the implication here looks like clan trading will be tied to a room you build in the dojo. And as I said before, those are fucktons of expensive.

[Aldurin]

By "expensive" do you mean "Fuck, I didn't know I'd ever need this many credits!" or "FUCK I have to grind for Rubedo again?" kind of expensive?

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Likely whatever keeps their playerbase grinding longer until pay-to-dojo sounds like a tempting idea. This game is fun, but holy shit it's gettin pretty silly.

[Bells]

Soooooooooooo are we grinding for Dojo? Cause in the process of griding for dojo i would imagine to acquire a buttload of materials and mods, which is ok with me...

I'm almost done with my new pistols, new rifle, flying bot and just need to focus a bit more on Ash...

[Arcanum]

The wiki has the prices for all the rooms. (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Dojo)

Of note, for a simple freaking hallway:

50k credits, 65k salvage, 35k ferrite, 120k nano spores, 5 forma (the newly added resource you can buy or get as a ? alert drop, login reward, or reward from a void key mission)

Every dojo starts with a clan hall, so don't pay attention to the one million credit cost of building another.

And in addition to needing to build the new research buildings, you will need the new resources added to a lot of systems in order to research some of the new weapons added to the game. And then, after you research them, you will still actually have to build them in a separate room.

So to answer your questions, it's "welp looks like I'm hiring an army of Chinese gold farmers to farm these materials" kind of bad.

Really the dojo just reeks of "well we have a lot of players playing since closed beta, farming like mad men, who have a bajillion resources and nothing to do with it. So let's make a resource sink aimed solely at them. What? New players? Casual players? Nah they're fine."

[Aldurin]

The credit cost for some of those would be reasonable, if it wasn't for the ungodly resource demand. I don't even want to bother grinding up for dojo stuff for now.

[Yumil]

To be honest, the costs don't bother me. It's not meant for one person to be able to build and frankly it's not like the rooms decay. These are one time costs for permanent benefits>.<

Besides, they require resources you get butt tons of playing the game with no real way to use them. I swear I have 11k ferrite and I havent even played for about a month.

[Arcanum]

Good news, everyone! (http://youtu.be/HHfOejlvVsY)

We are 26% of the way towards having a cross-connector built. A friend I met through SMNC dumped 50k credits in, and I and one or two others put in a chunk of resources.

Sadly, we still need a fuckton more. And this is just for a hallway. After this we will need a generator so we actually have the power to build more rooms.

Okay so not really good news.

Also, Yumil, I was afk in the menus when you sent me that PM about inviting you to the clan, so I didn't see it (and then send an invite) until after you went offline.

Also, to everyone in general, I went through my friend list again and made sure everyone on there had a clan invite sent to them. If you don't have me (ArcanumMBD) on your warframe friend list then you might be missing an invite, so send me a friend a request, or message another NPFer because a lot of people have clan invite privileges.

[Bells]

i havent been able to check ito the game yet but i sure as hell will be helping along, sadly those costs are just way too prohibitive. i uderstand that having a cool clan lobby is something to be super proud of because it takes so much work to get it done... but this is a bit much. small clans dont stand a chance an casual players now need to join good clans or be left out of the ``meta`` as it will be known soon enough...

here is the thing though... do we need hallways? i ask cause i havent seen it yet but if we can just attach rooms to room i say go for it. save money by building smart.

[Aldurin]

i havent been able to check ito the game yet but i sure as hell will be helping along, sadly those costs are just way too prohibitive. i uderstand that having a cool clan lobby is something to be super proud of because it takes so much work to get it done... but this is a bit much. small clans dont stand a chance an casual players now need to join good clans or be left out of the ``meta`` as it will be known soon enough...

here is the thing though... do we need hallways? i ask cause i havent seen it yet but if we can just attach rooms to room i say go for it. save money by building smart.

We obviously need excessive hallways for style before we get rooms with actual function.

[Ryong]

We need some cross connectors just so we can have enough place for all the rooms. T junctions are sub-optimal.

[Arcanum]

The starter room as two doors, one on either end. Nothing I've seen has led me to believe other room have additional doors branching out of them. Therefore we need hallways if we want more than 2 rooms in our dojo.

In other news, I joined some folks looking for additional party members in Design Council Chat that were doing Void missions (since only the host needs to have a key).


The Orokin tileset is pretty.
The enemies you fight are just re-hashed versions of Corpus, light-armor
Grineer, and Infested Ancients (all acting as one faction, with white/gold color palettes, and called the "Corrupted") so it's nothing really new, but I'm sure they will add unique enemies eventually.
You are guaranteed a drop at the end of every mission. These drops include Reaper Prime BP (and its parts), Frost Prime BP (and it's parts, though the parts are more common than the BP it seems since that was a reward for the MOA event), and the Latron Prime BP (and its parts). So your first couple of runs in the Void will be extremely profitable, but then when you start needing one or two specific things you will be a very sad Tenno.
There are three levels of keys, and the level of enemies you face depend on the tier of key. I've heard of T3 defense keys eventually giving you level 50-98 enemies at high waves. I did some T1 and T2 missions, and the enemy levels were around 10-25 and 20-40 respectively (rough estimates on my part).

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

I got the new frame dude. forget its name, but it is pretty damn fun so far. I've only used the Tesla skill so far but I love it. Drop it on the ground and duck around a corner while it zaps the shit outta everything. Not very good against infected, but whatever..its usefulness everywhere else makes up for it.

What is best about it is you can chuck it on a teammate and they become a mobile electric trap. perfect when someone is rhino.

[Ryong]

I got a tower raid key, Void mission later woo!

[Bells]

i gave 1000 polymer bundles to our cross connector and we are now at 46%

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY CROSS CONNECTOR GUIDER OF FAITHS!!

i still have to Farm Alloy plates and neurodes like a bitch............ i also need one Control Module to get my flying thing-a-majig

[akaSM]

I began playing this a couple days ago and, I've been having a lot of fun with Mag, I love pulling and crushing things :3

[Ryong]

I gave too much of my crap away to our mighty cross connector cause that I don't have the polymer or salvage to make a goddamn kraken.

Meanwhile, you know what's pretty fucking nice? Split chamber Paris.

[Arcanum]

So here are some changes they are working on in Warframe. (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/55421-update-8-related-work/?p=572944)

Specifically:

CLAN SIZE: We're currently thinking of these tiers: Shadow Clan (30 limit), River Clan (100 limit), Mountain Clan (500 limit), Moon Clan (2000 limit). Existing massive clans will likely grandfathered in but there may be upkeep friction for those really crazy sized ones. We will avoid forced splits though. Starting a clan will take some resources. Jumping between clans will be slow to reduce exploits. We need these limits to help bring sanity to database, networking and balance equations. Stay tuned, as we're still working out the details.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS: Sorry about how this turned out, slapping "Alpha" on it was not enough. Soon the size of your clan will affect the crafting costs (duh). To grow a Shadow Clan to a River Clan (and beyond) will require building a new structure to increase the capacity. Connector pieces will be adjusted in cost. Large clans will not feel a ton of difference. It will make all the difference for small ones. This will not be a linear curve, larger group of more active players will be able to build faster but it won't be such a ridiculous gap.


In light of that, I'm cancelling the construction of our cross connector to refund all the resources to everyone who contributed. That way we will be able to build more things faster once these changes have been implemented

[akaSM]

I can has clan invite?

I promise I won't Leeroy Jenkins a lot.

EDIT: who am I kidding, I love stabbing things in the face and crushing, which are far better when you Leeroy Jenkins.

[Arcanum]

Pretty sure I sent you an invite as soon as I accepted your friend request on Warframe. Just make sure you check the clan tab in the social thing. It's the little circle wheelmabob.

[akaSM]

So, "Super Sentai Tenno Gaiden" isn't the clan's name? I guess it's that invite from Lords Of Fried I got some time ago :V

[Gregness]

I just joined over the weekend so message Eirick for real ninja action!

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

In light of that, I'm cancelling the construction of our cross connector to refund all the resources to everyone who contributed. That way we will be able to build more things faster once these changes have been implemented

Probly don't want to do that right now. There's a bug going around that is causing a failure to refund resources entirely from projects. Not sure if it is happening 100% of the time, but from what I'm hearing there's a more than significant chance of it happening.

That is, if you haven't cancelled already. If you have here's hoping that the bug didn't strike.

[Aldurin]

He did, but the bug didn't happen.

[Aldurin]

So there's an event that's going on right now through monday, all grineer missions will randomly spawn floating harmless drones that you're encouraged to kill. Idea is that if the overall quota of whatever-million it is is completed before the event ends then rewards are given out based on kills. 20+ gives you the Snipetron Vandal (I assume a modified version of the sniper rifle they pulled from the game), then the top 100 kill counts are awarded a stupidly good-sounding mod that boosts the damage of the first shot in each clip, and then the top clans from 4 predetermined tiers get a Grineer Drone statue for their dojo once Update 9 goes through (the top 5 for the 11-100 member bracket, which is probably the most common guild size so I really don't think we're gonna outdo the 10 hardcore grinding clans). I really don't think it'd be worth trying to win whatever tier our clan is in, but getting 20 drone kills and calling it good is fine.

There are problems though:
1. The drones vanish as soon as they take damage, meaning you have to 1-shot them in order to get the kill. Sucks to be you if you have default weapons.
2. Set your sentinels to dumb. The auto-attacking mod for them (the only one that should be in all sentinels) makes them target the drones, which is bad because their weapons are not going to kill them.
3. Kills are not shared. Boot up your solo missions and hope you remember what it's like to get full aggro.
4. This ain't the brilliance of the Fusion Moa event. As the last "murder X of new enemy" event was actually reasonable, as the thing you were supposed to kill was trying to hunt you down and kill you too, having a high global total wasn't a problem. Every drone I've seen always hovers high enough off the ground that you have to be staring upwards, and I've seen an average of 3 drones per mission so far. Seven-digit kill goals for this could be too much, and really rides on how badly the supersized clans wan't that statue.

Overall, the event is ok for just being something to shake things up, but it feels like something that divides the WoW-level of dedication players from the casuals and moderates, and also throws more dicks at the clan system by dedicating even more to a generally bad setup while it's still in beta (clan ideas are good, but tying all of the good equipment and benefits to it after everyone in your clan signs over their souls is a bit much).

[akaSM]

2. Set your sentinels to dumb. The auto-attacking mod for them (the only one that should be in all sentinels) makes them target the drones, which is bad because their weapons are not going to kill them.

LIES

They don't shoot the things, they MAY shoot them if the're shooting something and, their line of fire happens to be close to the things.

[Aldurin]

LIES

They don't shoot the things, they MAY shoot them if the're shooting something and, their line of fire happens to be close to the things.

No I've walked into rooms where there's nothing nearby to keep my Dethcube busy so he immediately started shooting his tiny ineffective bullets at the drone.

Also there's no Retaliation-based aggro mod for the Dethcube so I basically have a really expensive emergency shield battery that shoots short-range lasers during this.

[akaSM]

That's odd, I've already gotten my 20 kills and, my cube never shot those things. Not even the short range laser that kills things fast..I was jumping to try that one ::V:

[Arcanum]

Al you are drunk because multiple sources on reddit and the official forum say Sentinels do not attack the drones. They might use abilities, but they won't target with bullets. Though Sentinel shots can hit the drone if the drone is in the crossfire, it just won't target the drone itself.

Also, the drones apparently only spawn in Level 15+ areas.

Also, you will know one is nearby when your minimap becomes scrambled.

The drones also have 99 shields and 1 hp, so you need to do 100 damage in one shot to kill them. Which still is shitty if you have the starter weapons, or only automatic stuff.

I ran through E-Prime on Earth solo and I got 20 drones rather quickly. I was using my Paris to guarantee the one-shot kill though. Just make sure you let the Grineer trigger the alarm, and always be killing things so enemies are spawning in, since the drones need to spawn in like a regular enemy.

[McTahr]

Most I've seen is upwards of 30 a run on Ophelia. Just dick around and kill everything, and keep an eye out. It's not terribly hard to knock off the 20, or more if you're looking to help out on the %.

Of course, my issue with this event is that I just hate the Grineer faction. After about twenty games of ring-around-the-rosie chasing dudes around boxes because they're either trying to take cover or running, I get a little miffed. That and the sounds. For some reason, I just hate how Grineer sound.

[akaSM]

Update 9 is live. (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/77575-update-9-vors-revenge/) It comes with many new things, fixes and what not but, Dojo building isn't stupidly expensive anymore!

[Arcanum]

Our clan hall is fancy now! We've got two reactors already built, a bigger hall that just needs the last bit of resources before it can start building (if you have any spare Rubedo or Alloy Plates, feel free to toss 'em in), and the beginning of our Research Department is coming together with more hallways and an Oracle (the prerequisite to research rooms) being built!

[akaSM]

I just used most of my rubedo in frame parts :B

[Bells]

just oto share that i dumped some resources in the dojo, which is looking VERY nice, i remember when it was just a room with a cross connector at the end!!

Thing is im also a bit disappointed at the game now... cause... it's just so pay to win.

You can buy resources, get free access to EVERYTHING in the store. And at the same time, Platinum is so freaking expensive... it's absurd! You have to grind like a mofo and slave away to acquire your stuff... or you can drop 20 bucks and get your blueprint done.

It feels like the developers are teasing players... "hey, aren't you tried of griding for that rare resource that drops once every 10 missions? Look... just drop 5 bucks on the story and get the thing done. You could be saving yourself a lot of time griding and instead be enjoying your new thingie..."

i dunno, i don't like it. i still love the game, but the way it's setup now rubs me the wrong way.

[akaSM]

just oto share that i dumped some resources in the dojo, which is looking VERY nice, i remember when it was just a room with a cross connector at the end!!

Thing is im also a bit disappointed at the game now... cause... it's just so pay to win.

Paying, gets you colors, cosmetic stuff and slots for weapons and warframes (you start with a low number but, enough; 3 frames and...some weapons? cannot remember the number). Everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) else can be acquired through normal gameplay.

If you pay for things that can be aqcuired while playing...it's just dumb. Besides catalysts and reactors (maybe formas and, the platinum only stuff I mentioned earlier), there's no reason to pay for anything else.

It's not pay2win, it's pay2farm/grind less.

[lazy man]

Aka is right about that, actually. I payed for a founder pack and still have platinum left over, but I've been playing like crazy for the past... I can't remember. 2 months? 3?

Basically, the only thing I spend platinum on is reactors/catalysts and warframe/weapon slots, and I still have over 500 left (I started with 1000 I think). And I STILL had to farm like crazy to get all the frame parts (Yes ALL of them. I was bored last week...) Buying a whole frame is basically a waste of money when you can just spend 20 to get a reactor and that's it. Same with weapons, really, especially now that rare materials drop MUCH more frequently than before (At least with bosses, anyway). It's just a matter of how much patience you have and how much you've leveled up your mods (maxed out frame mods are NUTS).


...ok, rant aside, Nova is freaking amazing. Rooms that lag from having too many enemies suddenly get cleared out after her ultimate goes off. It's... terrifying in the best way possible. I'd say everyone should give her a try if they can farm her out.

[Gregness]

I'm kind of disappointed by the visual execution of the chain reaction to be honest. I mean, yeah the ultimate is sweet, but if you trigger a chain they all just kind of disappear at the same time. It'd be much more satisfying if the deaths chained over time with explosions all over the place.

[Bells]

So... the auto message from the game's chat merged with our clan's message to create profound wisdom

http://i42.tinypic.com/15z1gs4.jpg

[lazy man]

So apparently this weekend is a double affinity weekend. I'm extremely grateful because I've begun putting myself through using Mag...

Word of advice, unless you're being a completionist like me, don't use Mag. Just... so BAD.

[akaSM]

Word of advice, unless you're being a completionist like me, don't use Mag. Just... so BAD.

She's my favorite frame, that's bad and you should feel bad about that.

[Bells]

Shade is a very very cool and so broken pet...

Like, enemies see me and come rushing me and then my shade sentinel goes "NOPE!" and i turn invisible. But then, i move just a bit way and he is like "WE ARE ALL CLEAR NOOOOOOOW" and PUFF im visible and under aggro again.

So it's awesome for stealth, but still needs some work. Maybe a cool down before the invisibilit wears off so i can at least plan myself...

Other than that... a fully powered up loki is an awesome thing to have. I'm almost regreting going for Ash...

Also, Boltor rifle and Boltor akimbo pistols and Mire Sword. Cause fuck status i want to look cool.

[lazy man]

She's my favorite frame, that's bad and you should feel bad about that.

I guess I'm mostly just spoiled with Frost, Nova and Vauban being my three favorites so far... No, yeah, I'm spoiled, sorry about any offense >.>

If only they could add trading sooner, I would throw blueprints at everyone like candy so everyone could know the joys of all the frames sooner (Except Frost Prime... grrr). SO MANY BLUEPRINTS.

[akaSM]

I guess I'm mostly just spoiled with Frost, Nova and Vauban being my three favorites so far... No, yeah, I'm spoiled, sorry about any offense >.>

Aren't those 3 the most powerful frames in the game? ::V:

But yeah, Mag is really bad compared to those 3 (which frame isn't? ::V:)...and any other frame. I just love the swirly thing on her helmet and overall looks. Screw the "lol my head is a camera" helmet though, as useful as it is, it's fugly.

And, the stupid high shields and shield regen she has make for a pretty great hit 'n run Leeroy frame, add Crush to that with it's huge range and, it's perfect for going stupid on everything and, getting away with it XD.

[McTahr]

Pair Mag with a nice, big, multi-hit melee weapon.

Pull, stab, win.

Wasn't much a fan of crush, or really most heavy AoEs as the damage is especially lacking post-level hike, but any utility on a frame is generally ideal, and AoE knockdown certainly fits that bill.

[Bells]

Listen up nerds

I got myself some Void keys

Tower Capture II
Tower Defense I and III
Tower Exterminate II
Tower Mobile Defense

I want to run these, but of course, i'm giving priority to Clan members. So if anybody wants a go at these, let me know in game and maybe we can put a group together.

Also, if you have void keys, try and do the same here.

[akaSM]

I got a ton of keys and, wouldn't mind using them with all of you, silly bloom loving people.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Finally got around to downloading this. I'm surprised and happy my laptop can run this on low at a good 30 frames. Well barely XD.

[Aldurin]

Finally got around to downloading this. I'm surprised and happy my laptop can run this on low at a good 30 frames. Well barely XD.

I will join a game with you and spam all of my screen-covering abilities nonstop. Your graphics card will level up so fast.

[Arcanum]

I don't remember if I gave Al invite privileges or not. Aka can invite people for sure. So if I don't invite you to the clan then one of them will. Although posting your in-game name would be a good first step ;P

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It's Kyanbu. Almost the same name I use here.

[akaSM]

I've sent you an invite to the clan, Kyanbu.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

ok I'll log on now and accept it.

Thanks.

[Bells]

Pro-Tip never buy a Bluprint without checking the Warframe wiki first.

Also clean your shows when you enter the Dojo, we are civilized cyber ninjas here!

[Gregness]

Apparently there's going to be another event this weekend. (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/91897-new-image-operation-arid-fear/)

EDIT: Now there's a thing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50zEVmoYqQ)

[Kyanbu The Legend]

might not be on for a long while. just when I can finally sit.down and try this game out. my laptop's hdd fails on me. and my desktop can't run this game at all without sever lag.

damn it... >_<