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Vault Of Thrones 04-02-2008 04:55 PM

3rd Graders plot to attack teacher
 
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Basically, a group of 3rd graders got angry at their teacher and got together in an attempt to attack her, and possibly kill her. Police were alerted and no one was actually harmed.

I feel that the kids were too young to actually understand what the consequences of their actions would be, they were only like 8 to 10, but what shocks me is how organized they all were, each having specific roles and things to bring. I think that odds are they wouldn't have actually attacked, but the level of organization also makes me think they would have.
I do feel that they should definitely be punished, but I don't think that expulsion is the right thing: they are simply too young to understand the full consequences of what doing this would have caused.

What do you think could have caused this and would the kids have actually gone through with it, what do you think should be done about it, and what do you think the kids were thinking?

Mad Jack the Pirate 04-02-2008 05:01 PM

kids are bastards and everyone underestimates just how devious the little shits can be.

TDK 04-02-2008 06:46 PM

I heard about this earlier today. It scares me a bit because young children, without an understanding of life and death, can still cause the latter and change the former for the worse. Crippling, etc. Apparently they were going to use duct tape, handcuffs, and a steak knife?

They should definitely be punished. Expulsion...Maybe. Obviously there will be a hefty punishment from their parents as well.

Bob The Mercenary 04-02-2008 07:12 PM

Read this in the paper this morning, though I think there is a lot more to the story. The only motive they've found so far is revenge for the teacher scolding one of their classmates for standing on a chair. I don't know about you, but when I was in grammar school if you made an ass out of yourself you were going down alone. No one stood up for anyone at that age.

Also, is that area of Georgia inner-city? That could to some extent explain their coordination and...where the hell did they get handcuffs?

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...small south Georgia city on the northern edge of the Okefenokee Swamp, where residents are preparing for their annual SwampFest celebration this weekend.

This is the perfect opening to a horror story. Some kids go down to the old Okefenokee Swamp right before SwampFest and end up either possessed by an Okefenokee spirit or infected with the T virus. Oh god, I see the headlines now...The Okefenokee Conspiracy!

Vault Of Thrones 04-02-2008 07:13 PM

I'm not sure whether or not the parents need to be punished; I'm kind of on the fence. On one hand, we have that the parents need to be paying better attention to their kids, and should be punished for not setting a better example of how to live as a productive member of society. On the other hand there were 9 or 10 kids involved, so it was probably some sort of a mob type of mentality, and one students parents shouldn't be punished because their kid got caught up in what a group of other kids was doing. Either way, I'm sure that the parents are horrified, and they're the ones who are going to have to deal with the legal side of this.

I'd also like to point out that the thing that the teacher supposedly did to make them so angry was yelling at them for standing on a chair. I think that there has to be more to it than just that. If the teacher was just yelling at one kid for standing on a chair, then how did that one kid get nine other kids involved.
If the teacher was yelling at nine students for all standing on chairs, then there are already discipline problems in that classroom. And being yelled at for standing on a chair, hardly seems like the sort of thing that would cause this sort of response.
Anyway, shouldn't the kids know that they aren't supposed to stand on chairs? Maybe the school needs to spell out its rules a little bit more clearly in regards to standing where you're supposed to sit.

TDK 04-02-2008 07:25 PM

Nonono, the parents are most likely not guilty of anything. I meant that the children should be heavily punished BY their parents in addition to what the schools do.

Bells 04-02-2008 08:08 PM

So... im the only one who cant get past the point that they got a Handcuff in there?

"We need to tie her up!"
"My mom has a pair of Handcuff..."
"Really? Wow, cool! ... but why? is she a cop?"
"No sh...i mean... yes. Yes she is..."

You know what, sure, they might be too young to really know what they were doing... but c'mon.. that was a little too "elaborate".

They had one of them selected to "clean up the murder scene"! How do you plan THAT ahead and still claim to be innocent? What? They draw straws for each job? C'mon...

I would dare to go as far as saying that i wouldnt be surprised if one of these kids is a Great CSI fan... but even so, there is a "mastermind" on this plan, and his parents should be talked to ASAP.

Selfish Philanthropic 04-02-2008 08:21 PM

There HAD to be some outside influence. Some older sibling thought it would be humorous to plant this idea in thier younger brother/sister's head. One of the children has watched/read too many murder mysteries/crime movies. Maybe the mastermind of the whole scheme is a frigging genius, and they need to direct his/her energies towards more productive pursuits. I don't know; this needs to be thoroughly investigated, regardless.

This isn't saying that, "The media is teachin' our kids to kill!!!!11one" Just, seriously, this whole occurrence is very suspicious. Kids simply don't craft elaborate murder plots on a daily basis.

Vault Of Thrones 04-02-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK
Nonono, the parents are most likely not guilty of anything. I meant that the children should be heavily punished BY their parents in addition to what the schools do.

Sorry, I didn't realize you said "from the parents", I thought you said "for the parents", that's just my minor dyslexia getting in the way again (not really).

I can see how an older brother or sister got the idea into someone's head. The kid gets scolded for standing on a chair, goes home and tells their family, a sibling suggests they should just kill her. The next day the kid tells all of their friends this, and they start talking about what would need to be done, all as a joke. It would only take one kid who didn't quite get that they weren't actually going to kill their teacher to bring in some stuff to do it with. The thing is I don't really get that impression from the story at all.
I get the impression that a bunch of third graders plotted to murder their teachers, not that it was some sort of a joke that some people took too far.

I also think that it is kind of strange that they chose a crystal paper weight to knock the teacher out with. If they have hand cuffs lying around their house, you would think that they would have access to slightly more effective bludgeoning devices.

Bob The Mercenary 04-02-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vault Of Thrones
I also think that it is kind of strange that they chose a crystal paper weight to knock the teacher out with.

Maybe they took an Oblivion quest a little too literally and thought the paper weight was a soul gem.


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