HEY NEKO TERA-SAN, LET'S TALK ABOUT SECRET OF MANA

[Fifthfiend]

What all's your problem with that game, man?

[POS Industries]

NEKO TERA-SAN

Wow, haven't seen that in a long time.

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

What all's your problem with that game, man?

Honestly I dunno, I never played it. But it's the favorite game of a girl I dated in middle school and she's pretty cool in a Kate Beatony kinda way so I'd say it's probably all right.

[BitVyper]

If you accept Secret of Mana, all of your sins can be forgiven.

[Fifthfiend]

I mean I'm not sayin' he's necessarily wrong about it or anything he's just mentioned not liking it a few times now without really saying why so I thought I would ask.

[BitVyper]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

I mean I'm not sayin' he's necessarily wrong about it or anything he's just mentioned not liking it a few times now without really saying why so I thought I would ask.

He's explained it, I'm pretty sure, but I forget where.

[Loyal]

Are we going to be regularly calling people by their old usernames when trying to get their attention?

[McTahr]

<3 SoM.

Just recently did a full playthrough on the WiiWare store version. Still just as fun.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

It's a slow game with a horribly slow weapon and magic growth system (the grind to even master one of them was overwhelming since they gave you ten different levels of mastery for each one of the dozens of arms you received*) with an uninteresting battle system. Having to wait for the meter to recharge or whatever to do damage is, I guess, a neat idea, but Action RPGs since then found better ways to deal with attack spamming (cooldown animations) that I've been spoiled to not like SoM's battle system at all.

The party members are comprised of some of the blandest individuals ever, too: I don't have a problem against silent heroes, but usually these silent heroes are accompanied by individuals whose stories and relationships to the main character or whatever flesh the latter out. The princess and the sprite do nothing of the sort for Muteman.

I will admit to never having beaten the game -I stopped around the Santa Claus quest, I believe. I do remember I hardly had any motivation to go on. The script was way too fragmented, with no real link between any of the episodes besides going around to get the summons or whatever. The pacing bored the fuck out of me.

*I'll admit this could be a plus for some people, however.

I guess I can respect a lot of that. I agree with a lot of what you're calling flaws although I don't really think they're so great as to overwhelm the things the game did well / make it like The Worst Game Ever.

I enjoyed the multiple weapons / levels of mastery since I get pretty annoyed with the "YOU = SWORD GUY, YOU = SPEARS, YOU = GUNS" model of RPG design. And for whatever reason I think I liked the blandness of the main character / side characters as I tend to get tired of melodrama getting in the way of Killing The Big Evil Badguy.

I guess a lot of my enjoyment of the game probably owes to having played it ages ago although at the same time I don't think it's fair to judge a game on modern standards such as when you're saying that subsequent action RPGs are coloring your view. I mean it'd be fair to call it dated, but it's pretty harsh to judge it The Worst Game Ever on that account.

EDIT: I'd be lying if I said I didn't mostly like it cause it lets you use that drum thing from Karate Kid II to summon the dragon from Neverending Story.

Originally Posted by Loyal

Are we going to be regularly calling people by their old usernames when trying to get their attention?

HEY THERE 2NES

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

I guess I can respect a lot of that. I agree with a lot of what you're calling flaws although I don't really think they're so great as to overwhelm the things the game did well / make it like The Worst Game Ever.

I enjoyed the multiple weapons / levels of mastery since I get pretty annoyed with the "YOU = SWORD GUY, YOU = SPEARS, YOU = GUNS" model of RPG design. And for whatever reason I think I liked the blandness of the main character / side characters as I tend to get tired of melodrama getting in the way of Killing The Big Evil Badguy.

I guess a lot of my enjoyment of the game probably owes to having played it ages ago although at the same time I don't think it's fair to judge a game on modern standards such as when you're saying that subsequent action RPGs are coloring your view. I mean it'd be fair to call it dated, but it's pretty harsh to judge it The Worst Game Ever on that account.

Yeah, you're right. It's certainly no Super Mario RPG.

[Fifthfiend]

Oh yeah that's the other one that I don't know what's your problem with it. So what don't you like about that one?