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Unread 02-04-2010, 10:23 PM   #111
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Gotta say I don't think I ever would've expected that.
Dude. I mean come on.

She was a sexpot wearing a Normandy uniform. Every single person that came on the ship already got her horny, even alien motherfuckers like Thane and Garrus or that psychotic nutjob with a tattoo on every square inch of her body Jack. The fact that she turns into casual sex for the captain was no surprise.
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Unread 02-04-2010, 10:27 PM   #112
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Something I don't think has gotten enough attention is the scene where you take control of Joker and are forced to run about the ship watching your crew get their asses kicked with a complete inability to do anything about it.

I really, deeply felt helplessness and anger as I watched unprepared Engineers and navigators and whatever the hell else take on Collectors, and especially the part where you run into that guy who tells you he's going to make sure you'll get where you're going safely, turns a corner and gets bitch slapped by a monster.

More than anything else really, that scene hit me as pretty damn emotional considering it wasn't a cutscene.
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I hate college. I am at the start of the "mission" but I don't have time right now cause I have to I have to do homework and go to class early tomorrow. Fuck!
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Unread 02-05-2010, 12:45 AM   #114
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Something I don't think has gotten enough attention is the scene where you take control of Joker and are forced to run about the ship watching your crew get their asses kicked with a complete inability to do anything about it.

I really, deeply felt helplessness and anger as I watched unprepared Engineers and navigators and whatever the hell else take on Collectors, and especially the part where you run into that guy who tells you he's going to make sure you'll get where you're going safely, turns a corner and gets bitch slapped by a monster.

More than anything else really, that scene hit me as pretty damn emotional considering it wasn't a cutscene.
This. Very this. I found that running helplessly Kelly as she gets dragged screaming into the elevator by a collector to be quite chilling. And, maybe I missed it, but did they explain why every "team member" got on a shuttle and warped off somewhere long enough for the red shirts to get helplessly slaughtered? I don't remember a explanation of what was going on with that.
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It was Miranda's idea to take everyone on the shuttle and then let Shepard choose who to take with once they hit ground side. Apparently no one took the time to think that might not be the BEST idea.
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Unread 02-05-2010, 01:00 AM   #116
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But could the most dangerous mother fuckers in the galaxy minus two and Shepard take on a collector boarding party for the two minutes it takes Joker to unchain EDI?

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Unread 02-05-2010, 01:04 AM   #117
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It was Miranda's idea to take everyone on the shuttle and then let Shepard choose who to take with once they hit ground side. Apparently no one took the time to think that might not be the BEST idea.
Yeah. But for a bit more detail: The Reaper IFF was causing issues in the Normandy's systems, so there was some worry about bringing it too close to a planet. Miranda suggested leaving in the shuttle to avoid that problem - presumably, they would have to leave immediately in order to make good time at all. I don't remember the conversation exactly but even though it was obviously an excuse to get the team off the Normandy, it didn't feel contrived at all.

But yeah, holy crap that was an intense scene. The massive difference between Joker and Shep - hell, Joker can't even RUN - was great for that point in the game. You're supposed to look on helplessly and the fact that you're in the action adds a sense of urgency. As I was playing I was thinking that almost any other character would have a fighting chance, but if Joker fired a gun then the recoil would almost certainly break his shoulder... of course, they turned that on its head at the end of the game, but it doesn't really matter.

Something I noticed: if they have the technology to bring Shep back to life at the start of the game, why can't they give Joker a strengthened exoskeleton or something, Wolverine-style? I'd love if there was a way to bring Joker along on missions, and that's just not going to happen as long as a stiff breeze will incapacitate him. Plus, I heard that a lot of people were begging for him to be a romance option for Femshep, and it'd be just awkward if he ended up with a broken pelvis.
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I'm pretty sure if you left no one there but Jack and Grunt... or hell, even just one of those two, you'd come back to the ship to find the whole place covered in collector corpses... and broken bulkheads.

Edit: Edi suggested the shuttle, and Joker's brittle bones are only in his legs, which is why he can fire an AR. His upper body is normal. Pelvis is... well, I'm not sure.
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Unread 02-05-2010, 01:08 AM   #119
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Edit: Edi suggested the shuttle, and Joker's brittle bones are only in his legs, which is why he can fire an AR. His upper body is normal. Pelvis is... well, I'm not sure.
From the start of the game:

"OWW! Watch the arm!"

From shortly after entering the relay:

"I think I broke a rib.... all of them...."

Both of which imply that all of his bones are brittle, or that at least his upper body is too.

EDIT FOR BELOW, SO AS TO NOT FILL THE THREAD WITH MORE SEMANTICS: Alright, point conceded. It strikes me as odd that Vrolik's Syndrome would be isolated to a single part of the body, though... but at least that would make it easier to Wolverine-ize him. I mean, just give him some kind of lower-body exoskeleton. Or have him lose the lower half of his body and give him a prosthetic. Hell, you could make a mission out of it, or even link it to past player decisions. Decided to sell Legion to Cerberus? Then you can't use his geth technology to turn Joker into a Six Million Dollar Man, and either he dies (prompting a quest to get a new guy) or he just can't get out of the cockpit ever again.

Okay that got away from me and maybe it DID deserve a new post. Even though my idea for execution was entirely stupid.

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Unread 02-05-2010, 01:08 AM   #120
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Go ask him about his disease in the first game. "I don't fly the ship with my legs, Shepard." "Leave the Normandy in my hands and I'll make her dance for you, just don't ask ME to get up and dance, unless you like the sound of cracking shin bones."

His bones are fine in his upper body, he's just a pussy.
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