Superhero or Wizard? - Page 8

Premmy · 02-10-2010, 02:19 AM

You got the "Flick of the wrist" thing right.
You don't wanna fuck a hairy old man, do ya?

Kyanbu The Legend · 02-10-2010, 02:23 AM

Forgot to include that.

Amake · 02-10-2010, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor

The point being Supes can do and is or isn't susceptible to whatever whoever happens to be writing him at the time feels like. That tends to give him a fair amount of leeway and really only raises questions as to what does and doesn't count. We're talking about a guy who goes to an empty patch of space to, uh, sneeze. So he doesn't destroy the world. Because there's totally sneezable air in outer space.

That's generally true, but he's always extremely vulnerable to magic no matter who writes him. Like, -100% magic resistance. It's still a very flexible vulnerability since the writers will just include magic in the story to the extent that they want Supers to be hurt by it.

Ever notice how rarely Superman fights Captain Marvel? It's no contest at all.

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Professor Smarmiarty · 02-10-2010, 04:01 AM

It's more of a stupidity weakness than anything else. Supes could move too fast for most magic users to be able to cast any spells but he doesn't fight like that, he'll just fl in and hover in front of them for a while so they can blast him down.
Also I'm fairl sure it's not actually a weakness, it's just that he has no special resistances to magic.

Yrcrazypa · 02-10-2010, 05:38 AM

You know what wizards can do? They can stop time, and proceed to lay down some shit that will explode you a million times as soon as time kicks back in. Can a superhero do that, while also having something that says "If someone that wants to hurt me gets within ten miles, they get exploded?" No, they cannot.

BitVyper · 02-10-2010, 08:49 AM

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it's just that he has no special resistances to magic.

Well in his case, having no special resistances to something is a weakness.

Edit: And speaking of Captain Marvel; wizards can create superheroes.

Hanuman · 02-10-2010, 09:19 AM

GOD-MAN

The superhero with omnipotent powers!

bluestarultor · 02-10-2010, 10:11 AM

Okay, but he doesn't fight crime that way.

I'll give you these two, although Mystique only was naked in the movie.

Beast actually does not go naked. Just in really small pants. Actually, a lot of his newer uniforms cover most of his fur, but with them turning him into some feline abomination people can't draw to look good half the time, I can't really say it's an improvement.

Funka Genocide · 02-10-2010, 12:41 PM

Super heroes are defined by their super powers. Those powers are derived from any number of sources and come in varying degrees of usefulness. Some super heroes are actually wizards, which would obviously mean the converse is true.

If we take super heroes as a whole, we find that the majority possess either gimmicky or limited abilities, and some possess no paranormal abilities whatsoever (relegated to intellect and technology, as it were.)

So to compare the "average" wizard to the "average" super hero, the Wizard wins, as alll wizards share in common the ability to change reality through sheer force of will and intellect alone, whereas the great volume of superheroes inevitably leads the average baseline to be skewed, as the nigh-omnipotence of some is absurdly diluted by the likes of Hawkman or whatever.

Krylo · 02-10-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

alll wizards share in common the ability to change reality through sheer force of will and intellect alone

This right here is really why wizards are better.

Like, ok Blue Wang Boy up there could probably beat down on a wizard, the fact of the matter is that he only has his reality warping powers because of a lab accident.

The same is true of all super heroes that are not also wizards. They got their power because they came from space, or because they're a mutant, or from a lab accident, or a meteor landed too close to them, or there was a radioactive spider, etc. etc.

Wizards, on the other hand, don't need that shit. They don't need mutations or alien birth rights or any other stupidity to shape reality to their whim. They just grab reality around the throat with pure force of will and tell it what to do, and it better goddamn do what they say.

02-10-2010, 02:19 AM	#71
Premmy Stop the hate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a nice web on fifty first street Posts: 4,466	You got the "Flick of the wrist" thing right. You don't wanna fuck a hairy old man, do ya? __________________ Drank

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Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	Forgot to include that. __________________

02-10-2010, 05:38 AM	#75
Yrcrazypa Not your babies daddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 491	You know what wizards can do? They can stop time, and proceed to lay down some shit that will explode you a million times as soon as time kicks back in. Can a superhero do that, while also having something that says "If someone that wants to hurt me gets within ten miles, they get exploded?" No, they cannot. __________________ Killer of threads.

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Hanuman Love Is Strength Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vancouver/BC/Canada Posts: 1,135	GOD-MAN The superhero with omnipotent powers! __________________ If you want to stay connected send me a PM with your email.

02-10-2010, 04:01 AM	#74
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	It's more of a stupidity weakness than anything else. Supes could move too fast for most magic users to be able to cast any spells but he doesn't fight like that, he'll just fl in and hover in front of them for a while so they can blast him down. Also I'm fairl sure it's not actually a weakness, it's just that he has no special resistances to magic.

02-10-2010, 12:41 PM	#79
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	Super heroes are defined by their super powers. Those powers are derived from any number of sources and come in varying degrees of usefulness. Some super heroes are actually wizards, which would obviously mean the converse is true. If we take super heroes as a whole, we find that the majority possess either gimmicky or limited abilities, and some possess no paranormal abilities whatsoever (relegated to intellect and technology, as it were.) So to compare the "average" wizard to the "average" super hero, the Wizard wins, as alll wizards share in common the ability to change reality through sheer force of will and intellect alone, whereas the great volume of superheroes inevitably leads the average baseline to be skewed, as the nigh-omnipotence of some is absurdly diluted by the likes of Hawkman or whatever.