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Old 02-16-2010, 04:20 AM   #501
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Also it's been mentioned before but I hope for Mass Effect 3 you play as Harbinger during ME2 trying to convince the Reaper Council that Shepard exists and is a grave threat to the Reaper Invasion.

Complete with a Reaper Councilor that makes air quotes at you with its shrimp legs.

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Old 02-16-2010, 04:39 AM   #502
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Also, if you listen to Okeer going on about Grunt, he doesn't necessarily even call him the perfect soldier. He talks about him being perfect in reference to the Genophage. Saying "The greatest insult to your enemy is to ignore them." or some such. So maybe... he can breed with other female krogan and have their children not be affected by the Genophage. Consider that maybe... Grunt is the cure. Not a total "halt the effects of" type cure. But it is something to consider.
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:28 AM   #503
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IIRC yeah I remember Okeer saying he was a perfect Krogan, I don't think he's the perfect warrior, at least not yet. It was designed more for the genophage I believe.

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The whole Grunt thing?
I think Grunt was made as a Super Soldier, rather than a cure to the genophage.

Okeer says that the greatest insult to the genophage is to ignore it. In other words, forget about the cure, and work on unification and training.
Every male Krogan born is put through the same rigorous training, instead of being "coddled" like they are now, and it's death or glory during said training.

A quote of Okeer's (Probably remembered wrongly) "They learned to fear the horde. Now let them learn to fear the lance."
In other words, the horde was terrifying. Now you'll see how terrifying it is when you've got a unit of highly trained Krogan commandos against you.

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Old 02-16-2010, 08:31 AM   #505
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Also it's been mentioned before but I hope for Mass Effect 3 you play as Harbinger during ME2 trying to convince the Reaper Council that Shepard exists and is a grave threat to the Reaper Invasion.

Complete with a Reaper Councilor that makes air quotes at you with its shrimp legs.

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Also, after Grunt becomes a man...er adult, be begins to realize the people he descends from. Grunt has never had any combat training of any kind. He just has his memories. Wrex was raised to be a fighter and already had some fighting experience before he fought the tresher. Also, Shepard and crew could already fight those in ME1.
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Wrex has been alive for about 1,100-1,200 years.
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By the way how long do Krogan's live naturally? With all that redundant biology and cellular regeneration they could potentially live damn near forever if they weren't so violent.
They can live for well over a thousand years. Krogan are honestly the only other species in which an Asari can find a life-long relationship. If one of their hearts shuts down, then the other ones simply pick up the slack.

It's why, usually, Battlemasters are so feared in the galaxy. Because you aren't just facing down someone who has the respect of other Krogan. You're facing down a guy who has spent the last 600+ years turning killing into a viable profession.

Also, when it comes to Grunt, Okeer made him a genetically perfect Krogan. He used tech from the collectors and took the best genetic traits of all the past Krogan Warlords. Okeer was seeking to turn the Krogan legacy from one of numbers to one of pure combat physiology. So genetically, Grunt is superior to those alive, and will produce superior children.

When it comes to skill, though, he's still learning. The tank gave him a massive instruction booklet and he KNOWS things. Everything there is to know about being a Krogan or combat, he knows it. He just doesn't know how to use that knowledge. He knows a hundred different ways to pry the crest off a Turian's skull, but you never really know how to do it until you try it. Wrex at his proving had both knowledge and experience. Grunt had knowledge. I mean, even if you took a while, he'd have only been out of the tank for about a week. Imagine only starting walking a week ago, and then having to go kill *spoiler*. That's rough. But after a few years of experience, he'll get it together, though he'll never be Officer material. He's a soldier, out to make soldier children, and is happy in his role.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:32 PM   #510
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Krylo I meant they might have become warlords not that they were. No one ever said Wrex didn't have powerful friends. Wrex earned the respect of his peers now, I dont see why you doubt he did the same then.

Something also occured to me about Jack, their super biotic program was easily the most retarded Cerberus plan in the entire game. Even if it worked they'd have an army of super biotics that would love nothing more then to rip out your spleen after the years of torture it took to turn them into super biotics.

PS I think they gave abit more personality to paragon and renegade options. Paragon shepard is laid back and sarcastic, renegade is aggressive and cocky.

Like they were being threatened
Renegade: "You are gonna get out of my way or I'll decorate this hallway with the inside of your skull"
Paragon: "hmm yes but you seem to be forgetting, I have a gun."

Both options result in threatening the person to get them to stand down. But the tone and method differ. Making renegade and paragon choices more of a choice between demeanor then actions
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