Conservapedia: The Source of Brilliant Ideas

Ryanderman · 01-14-2010, 03:44 PM

A bit late, and going back a bit, a few comments I want to make:

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You do realise the USSR ended up in many respects ridiculously capitalist and fairly conservative? In some ways it was most capitalist than the USA. Saying "We can't have all communism because look at (insert Russia/China/Vietnam/Cambodia)" is a ridiculous argument.

The failure of all of those far end progressive movements to achieve their ideological goals is precisely what I was referring to. I would, potentially, argue that the extremes of either conservative or progressive ideology, when put into practice in an imperfect world, wind up looking quite similar.

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Originally Posted by SMB

Also conservatism doesn't promote debate. It stifles it.

And society needs rapid change. The way capitalism is set up is designed to prevent any change. Democratic capitalism is a force of immense inertia- it prevents moderate change by hiding behind small, insignificant changes which appear large. Mensheviks have been confined to the dustbin of history quite rightly.

I disagree.

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Originally Posted by SMB

But I not sure how much I want to debate either.. Maybe I'll make a new thread, maybe.

I'm not particularly good at debating with any sort of sources of evidence to back up my theories or opinions. I tend to

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Originally Posted by Ryanderman

Society generally tends to continuously shift to the left. And that's probably a good thing. But the right should act as a counterweight to moderate that shift. Without the balance of conservatism, I think there'd be too quick a shift too far progressively

Says you, as basically this is just an assumption. It might be correct and it might not.

make statements based on general observation, not backed up by any sort of rigorous study, but that make sense to me. That may or may not be totally bogus, making me an easy target for more rigorous debaters.

But it's still fun.

Also, Conservapedia. Having learned more about it (mostly from the Daily Show interview with its founder) since the last thread we had on it, I have to change my opinion. I had thought the more insane articles were generally vandalism, as the site is a big fat easy target, and a source of much hilarity. But they do keep a pretty tight rein on the edits, so I have to think the people running it are crazy, and that sadly it reflects more of the mindset of mainstream conservatives than I'm comfortable with.

It seems that while I agree with many ideological tenets of conservatism, I can't stand conservatives.