Xbox 720 and PS4 Unvealed!? Is... is it because of the leak MS and Sony?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

http://www.noshitshurlock.com/offici...res-announced/

**UPDATE** Microsoft just confirmed the price: 299$, thats without the Kinect, and the lowest amount of Storage version **UPDATE**

Microsoft released in their new copy from “Xbox World Magazine” pictures and features of the new Xbox 720. According to the magazine, the new Xbox 720 will have ” a CPU with “four hardware cores, each divided into four logical cores,” as well as 8GB of RAM. The console’s final name is speculated to simply be “Xbox” and is set to include Kinect 2.0, directional audio, a TV output and input and is said to use Blu-ray discs and the GPU it will be akin to the Radeon HD 6670, which offers support for DirectX11, multidisplay output, 3D and 1080p HD output ( The chip currently has a market price of upwards of $79.99) ”. Microsoft also mentioned they want to bring the reality closer to the player by improving sound and finger tracking on the Kinect. In the magazine there are 2 pictures of the console, one on the cover of the magazine and another one showing off the console and its parts.

The full console picture

So... yeah... It's not ugly but I'm not really wowed by it's appearance. Also PS4 was unveiled too.

http://www.noshitshurlock.com/sony-o...playstation-4/

Rumors have been going around that there will be new Playstation 4 news coming soon, and the rumors were true. The website Digital Foundry, a technical site, has given full details of the consoles specs, graphics, design and more.



Here are the official Specs of the Playstation 4


CPU: Eight-core AMD processor running at 1.6GHz
Graphics core: Radeon HD hardware, 18 compute units at 800MHz
Additional hardware: GPU-like Compute module, some resources reserved by the OS
System-on-chip codename: Liverpool
Memory: 4GB GDDR5, 512MB reserved by the OS



Here is a video demonstrating the graphics capabilities of the new Playstation 4 (This video is made of a Alienware lapton, they use the same graphic card as the new Playstation 4 will)



This is the info we have so far on the Playstation 4: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df...xt-gen-console



Both the next generation PlayStation – and its Xbox competitor – feature eight-core CPUs clocked at 1.6GHz according to sources trusted by Digital Foundry. The main processor architecture driving both consoles is said to be derived the new “Jaguar” technologycurrently in development by Intel’s arch-rival, AMD. These are low-power processor cores designed for the entry-level laptop and tablet market, offering an excellent ratio between power consumption and performance. The PC Jaguar products are set to ship later this year in a quad-core configuration – next-gen consoles see the core count double with some customisations added to the overall design.

Married to the eight-core processor, Orbis also features Radeon HD graphics hardware. We’ve previously suggested that AMD’s mobile “Pitcairn” design – the Radeon 7970M – could be a strong basis for a next-gen console graphics core in terms of power consumption and die-size. Running at 850MHz and featuring 20 of AMD’s “Graphics Core Next” compute units, our information suggests that Orbis shaves off 10 per cent of that number, offering up 18 CUs in total, and sees a mild downclock to 800MHz. Incorporated into a design dedicated to cutting-edge visuals and gameplay, this hardware has some serious potential.



It is perhaps more than coincidence that these specs offer up the 1.84 teraflops metric for the Orbis GPU that was mooted yesterday, assuming that the figure is calculated in the same way that it is for AMD’s current “Graphics Core Next” range of products. At this time we cannot confirm the make-up of the Durango graphics hardware – rumours have circulated for quite some time that it is some way behind Orbis, but equally there has been the suggestion that the GPU itself is supplemented by additional task-specific hardware. We could not confirm this, but an ex-Microsoft staffer with a prior relationship with the Xbox team says that two of these modules are graphics-related.





Bearing in mind that the 7970M draws just 75W and that Orbis cuts out a couple of compute units in combination with a drop of around six per cent reduction in clock speed, we can easily envisage the unit drawing no more than 150W from the mains overall once we factor in RAM, CPU and storage power draw. This compares favourably to consumption that sailed perilously close to 200W on the original versions of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and should reduce the dangers of another RROD/YLOD debacle.

We also have hard data on Orbis’s memory set-up. It features 4GB of GDDR5 – the ultra-fast RAM that typically ships with the latest PC graphics cards – with 512MB reserved for the operating system. This is in stark contrast to the much slower DDR3 that Durango will almost certainly ship with. Microsoft looks set to be using an offshoot of eDRAM technology connected to the graphics core to offset the bandwidth issues the use of DDR3 incurs. Volume of RAM is the key element in Durango’s favour – there’ll be 8GB in total, with a significant amount (two sources we’ve spoken to suggest 3GB in total) reserved for the OS.



There’ll be a relatively high CPU overhead too, with potentially two cores reserved for the customisable apps Microsoft wants to run in parallel with gameplay. Orbis has no such ambitions and may power past the new Xbox simply because it focuses its resources on out-and-out games power. There’s always the possibility that Microsoft has looked at the prior success of Nintendo and its own Kinect and come to the conclusion that chasing after the maximum in raw horsepower isn’t the way to win the next console war.

“The next-gen Xbox refines DirectX 11 for a fixed hardware gaming platform while Orbis sees a revised version of the LibGCM API used on PlayStation 3 and PS Vita.”



Don’t miss out on our post about the Xbox 720 pictures and specs, read all about it here



Check out our post on the new Playstation 4 controller here



This is the first official info we have about the playstation 4. After seeing the specs of the Xbox 720 and comparing them, which one would you choose? What makes the one you choose better then the other one? Let us know!

I'm so hyped I'm calm.

[Aerozord]

Xbox has about the same specs as my PC, and its no lightweight.

Decently priced too.

Part of me likes that the hardwares aren't directly competing. Looks like the PS4 is focusing on raw speed while xbox is more about just front loading. Now I'm no expert on these things but it looks like optimizing between the two would be done differently. Meaning cross-platform releases will be more expensive. Hoping they lowball the software instead. I'll take zero load times over fancy graphics any day

[Magus]

I have the feeling the leap in graphics is not going to be particularly amazing this time around...just a feeling.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Am I supposed to be able to tell the difference between those 2 screens in that video or... what?

Other than that, don't really care yet, I'm still quite happy with this gen, do we really need to move on to the next already?

[Magus]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Am I supposed to be able to tell the difference between those 2 screens in that video or... what?

Other than that, don't really care yet, I'm still quite happy with this gen, do we really need to move on to the next already?

Again, I'm feeling that we're going to be underwhelmed by the difference there.

I'd almost wonder if they'd just go ahead and make PS4 games PS3 compatible, but that would undoubtedly kill their sales (depending on how cheap these PS4s are) and I don't think they'll risk it.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Am I supposed to be able to tell the difference between those 2 screens in that video or... what?

Other than that, don't really care yet, I'm still quite happy with this gen, do we really need to move on to the next already?

I completely agree but saying "already" is abit odd. Its been about six years since this generation came out. Normally its only around 4 or 5 years between releases.

If we are talking just time than its been a reasonable amount. I'm hoping they use this new processing power to add in more complex systems and lessen load times. Doubt it though.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by Magus

Again, I'm feeling that we're going to be underwhelmed by the difference there.
I'd almost wonder if they'd just go ahead and make PS4 games PS3 compatible, but that would undoubtedly kill their sales (depending on how cheap these PS4s are) and I don't think they'll risk it.

Ha, yeah, as if that'll ever happen. They wouldn't even let us play our old games on the new console, it sure ain't gonna happen in reverse.

They're gona have to do something seriousy impressive to make me upgrade from ps3 with this.

Originally Posted by Aerozord

I completely agree but saying "already" is abit odd. Its been about six years since this generation came out. Normally its only around 4 or 5 years between releases.
If we are talking just time than its been a reasonable amount. I'm hoping they use this new processing power to add in more complex systems and lessen load times. Doubt it though.

I've never bought a console within the first year of release, so it's been 5 years for me. My ps2 lasted me 7 years, and the ps3 was, according to Sony, supposed to last longer than this.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I've never bought a console within the first year of release, so it's been 5 years for me. My ps2 lasted me 7 years, and the ps3 was, according to Sony, supposed to last longer than this.

maybe they meant how long they'd continue to make them? I mean the PS2 only recently stopped being produced. Besides I'm not certain the new gen will replace the current one. People are reluctant to jump into new hardware now.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by Magus

I have the feeling the leap in graphics is not going to be particularly amazing this time around...just a feeling.

Yup. Wii to WiiU was the last big jump. Everything past this point will be rather small.


As for PS4 BC, Apparantly Sony patient a box containing a cell processor and PS3 BIOS that will help the PS4 run PS3 games (which are built to use the Cell processor).

Have yet to find anything confirming this but most rumors point to Sony having an answer about that by E3 2013.

[synkr0nized]

They put the PS1 processor in as a math coprocessor in the PS2 and, as a result, had hardware built-in for playing PS1 games natively. It would be terrific if they did that again.

I mean, half of the games I bought when I bought a PS2 were for the first console, since I had gone the N64 route instead. Maybe with a PS4 I'd finally play some PS3 titles.