(Not news) Fez developer is a whiny child. (News) Fez II cancelled post-tantrum.

[Aldurin]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...o-Kill-Himself

Were you looking forward to Fez II? Well unfortunately Phil Fish didn't like being called Blowfish by one of the Gametrailers guys. So after telling Marcus Beer to kill himself, he ragequit developing Fez II.

Game developers, amiright?

[Revising Ocelot]

Eh, not big surprise. I got FEZ during the summer sale. It was good, but it reeked of pretentiousness. Like, those endings. Fish had obviously spent too much time reading up on the True Art Is Incomprehensible trope.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

Eh, not big surprise. I got FEZ during the summer sale. It was good, but it reeked of pretentiousness. Like, those endings. Fish had obviously spent too much time reading up on the True Art Is Incomprehensible trope.

Every single thing about and by Phil Fish that I've read has painted him as literally the biggest asshole in the gaming industry. His Wikipedia page's only entry is a Controversy section and it's longer than the header.

So, yeah, telling someone who criticized him to kill themselves, demanding an apology from them, and then cancelling his game in a gigantic tantrum is pretty much a normal state of affairs for Phil Fish.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Never heard of this guy, but reading that wiki page, it never ceases to amaze me how arrogant and so full of shit some people are. So, you're a game developer, presumably you want to make games because you enjoy games, and you want other people to play games that you think would be fun to play, yet then you go and act like, well, this douche has, calling gamers retards and being generally insulting to potential customers, and then acting like the injured party when someone calls them on their shit and does it back to them.

I just... don't get it. How do they expect people to buy their games and make money when they alienate everyone and come off as such a massive tool?

It's like that other douche, Jonathan Blow, who makes one ok game and then uses the following years to call everyone elses work shit and lamenting the fall of the industry, whilst not putting out any new games himself or contributing anything of value.

I'm sorry, but you made one game, that does not give you the right to act like you're the greatest gaming genius in the development world and start lording it over everyone else like your opinion on shit matters more than theirs.

TBH, we're probably better off without these conceited little fucks and their egos vieing for artistic supremecy in the industry. The internet has proven it has no qualms about calling anyone on it's bullshit and making a laughing stock of them, so good fucking riddance. The sooner we run them both out of town the better.

[greed]

It's mostly a bad cliche is the problem. Have to hand it to you though Amake, it set up Ramary's explosion which was kinda hilariously out of proportion.

Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm

Every single thing about and by Phil Fish that I've read has painted him as literally the biggest asshole in the gaming industry.

Obviously you need to do some reading on the Stardock guy or the dude who made Star Ocean 4. The piece of human waste behind Other M as well.

Fish probably wins for ones who aren't actually evil though I guess.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Originally Posted by Amake

What do you know, after sleeping on it I found an opinion. I think whatever damage Fish may have done to the indie game scene is ridiculously unimportant.

Nobody actually gives two shits about the "damage Fish may have done to the indie game scene".

He's a arrogant jackass who flounced out of the room after someone called him an asshole.

He told someone to kill themselves, which is, you know, a completely fucking awful thing to do.

So, fuck that guy. That's what this is about.

and yet they apparently deal with it without feeling the need to attack Card personally. Indie game enthusiasts have not shown the same dignity.

It's hard to talk about an asshole without calling him an asshole.

Also, flatly incorrect on the Card thing. Plenty of people insult him. He is a reprehensible fucking person and he should be called out as such.

There's probably more than one hopeful young dev who might have made the Citizen Kane of games, but who maybe isn't too confident in their ability to maintain a tolerable public persona, and reads about this and learns what the Internet hate machine does to you if you don't keep your mouth shut and gives up and gets a honest job instead.

Here's a thought: If you cannot manage to not come across as an asshole, maybe you are an asshole. It's not that hard! Most people do it every day. I don't see a thousand other game developers being called out as assholes on a regular basis.

I would tell them, as I would have told Fish, that it doesn't matter what people think of you,

Bullshit! Absolute fucking bullshit. This is up there with "sticks and stones blah blah blah" for shit advice.

Of course it matters what other people think of you. It matters even when those people are flat out objectively wrong, because they will act in accordance with their beliefs. OSC isn't a vile little toad because every time he hates a gay person, they get hit by lightning. He is a vile little toad because his homophobia expresses itself in his actions, which are directly harmful to gay people.

you can say nothing, be a complete nonentity to your audience, and if your work is good then people will enjoy it. But I don't know if anyone can believe that, since we're apparently so damn eager to judge the quality of a work by the behavior of its author that we celebrate when a guy we hate stops making games. I think that's the real problem here.

If you buy anything, you are placing money right into the hand of it's maker.

If you judge the maker to be a piece of shit, you might decide that you don't want to give them money, even if you want the thing in question.

You will then probably call the maker a piece of shit, because expressing feelings and thoughts and emotions is something human beings do, and you may want other people to know about their shittiness so they don't give a shitty person money.

This is, in fact, how boycotts work.

Originally Posted by greed

Obviously you need to do some reading on the Stardock guy

Oh god, Stardock guy. Yeah, Fish has some major competition.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Phil Fish's personality is the sole reason why I refuse to allow even a single penny of mine to come into his possession. When the cocky little shitlicker isn't busy sucking off his own ego, backstabbing other indie devs, talking to himself on twitter about how great he is, or rigging competitions to his favor then rubbing it in everyone's face, he's being..well..a cocky little shitlicker.

I'll sooner pirate FEZ than buy it. I try to disassociate art from the artist, as the saying goes, but with Shitstain McSideburns it is pretty much impossible. Seeing how the game's success is only overshadowed by his douchebaggery. So, in light of this, I am terribly amused at how he handled this latest hoohaw.

His quotes are even more hilarious, "im being attacked CONSTANTLY" Then perhaps being less of a pretentious asswaffle would help.

"i love twitter. but it also invites SO MUCH UGLINESS into my life" ain't twitter's fault, chump. It's the one using twitter.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

I'll give it about a month before he announces Fez 2 isn't cancelled, he is Jesus reincarnate, and when his muttonchops are consumed they cure cancer.

[Revising Ocelot]

Originally Posted by Grandmaster_Skweeb

I'll give it about a month before he announces Fez 2 isn't cancelled, he is Jesus reincarnate, and when his muttonchops are consumed they cure cancer.

Yeah, didn't he rage about PC users asking for a PC version, believing them to be entitled bastards and then said he was originally thinking of making it but then wouldn't (and then obviously backtracked).

In it for the money.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

Yeah, didn't he rage about PC users asking for a PC version, believing them to be entitled bastards and then said he was originally thinking of making it but then wouldn't (and then obviously backtracked).

In it for the money.

Yup. said he'd never port fez to PC because PC is for spreadsheets, pc gamers are [insert generalized vitriolic insult here] then turns around and ports it to pc acting like people should sick his dick and say thank you for the opportunity. Then shits all over people who called him out on being a hypocrite. saying things like, "$9 for a game like FEZ is a STEAL. I should be charging you $90 you fucking ingrates."

Not only that, he mocked and insulted indie friends (who were friends with him at the time) who were trying to get their games on the xbox 360. Then turned around and did just that and screwed them out of their chance. or somethin like that. It's the hyper-condensed version. Hell, Judas in Binding of Isaac was pretty much inserted into the game as a tribute to how much of a backstabbing dicklord Fish is.