MASS EFFECT TWO: GIVE GARRUS A HUG

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by Krylo

So was Wrex during spoilered bits.

Edit: And Wrex thinks he's good because he's with you.

The very fact that you are allowed to go with Grunt to represent him as his krant means that Wrex didn't have to be alone during it. It was his thing, so he gets credit for it with help or not.

Also: He's with me because he's good, which is why Wrex knows he has to be good.

[Dauntasa]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Grunt's 'superiority to all krogan' is pretty questionable. He doesn't even have biotic powers, despite it being a powerful and rare addition to the krogan.

Biotic Powers aren't genetic. They're a result of exposure to eezo in the womb. And seeing as that only gives powers every once in a while, and normally gives horrible, horrible cancer, I can see why Okeer wouldn't want to try that on his perfect krogan.

[Krylo]

For humans, yes. Actually for humans I think it's a combination of genetics and Eezo exposure, however, all, or at least the vast vast vast majority of, asari are biotic. Some, at some point, would not have had eezo exposure in the womb, unless eezo is actually part of their biological make up.

Anyway, point is, you can cause it in humans by doing that, but I'm not so sure it's not something you could add genetically to other races. I'm also not so sure you couldn't ensure that your 'perfect' krogan was genetically predisposed to survive the eezo exposure and have biotics and just use controlled exposure on the entire control group.

Not like he didn't have a crap ton of failures already.

[Dauntasa]

Biotic powers from eezo exposure are totally random, because it's not genetic. It's all about where the crystals end up in your body. Nervous System=Powers. Anywhere else= Cancer. I'm pretty sure this is how it works for every potentially biotic species except the Asari.

[Aerozord]

Grunt was made with the philosophy "if only one out of a thousand krogan infants survive, we just gotta make krogans a thousand times stronger" His plan was to make it so they dont need superior numbers to steamroll the galaxy. Also remember there is a thematic power hike in this game. Before you were just a rather random group, these are the most elite warriors and scientist in the known galaxy. Take Garrus for example. This is not the Garrus you played with in ME1, this is that Garrus plus two years of intense combat experience in the most chaotic locations in the galaxy and a decent amount of cybernetic upgrades. Considering his complete lack of experience he'd have to be a superior Krogan just to fight with you

As for Jack, honestly with the loyalty mission I wish should would have regressed more. She suffered alot of trauma, I would have expected alot more PTSD from her.

[Kerensky287]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Grunt was made with the philosophy "if only one out of a thousand krogan infants survive, we just gotta make krogans a thousand times stronger" His plan was to make it so they dont need superior numbers to steamroll the galaxy. Also remember there is a thematic power hike in this game. Before you were just a rather random group, these are the most elite warriors and scientist in the known galaxy. Take Garrus for example. This is not the Garrus you played with in ME1, this is that Garrus plus two years of intense combat experience in the most chaotic locations in the galaxy and a decent amount of cybernetic upgrades. Considering his complete lack of experience he'd have to be a superior Krogan just to fight with you

This explanation might not apply to Tali unless she's been going on some REALLY hard missions. Sure, she's a squad leader, but I was under the impression that most Quarians who are not voiced by Adam Baldwin are utter wusses. Hell, when you get the mission to recruit her, one of the reasons TIM gave for recommending her was that she had been on his team before.

I might also say that Jacob isn't all that special, but to be fair he was the main character in his own game already, so maybe main characters are in a league of their own.

[Sithdarth]

According to the Codex all Biotics are Biotics because there is eezo in their nervous systems. Like specifically all Biotic powers are firing specific nerves to manipulate eezo in your nervous system to make mass effect fields. I assume that after being around all this super advanced eezo tech it, the eezo, just tends to permeate a species and given time a species will just adapt genetically to it. Asari seem to be super good with natural DNA reconfiguration what with mindginas and being able to mate with basically anything organic.

As for Grunt I remember something about Krogan fearing biotics basically on principle. Which is why Krogan biotics always ended up as officers. That's great and all but its basically a prejudice and Okeer might very well have seen it as an imperfection. Not to mention I got the feeling Grunt was supposed to be a template for the perfect Krogan soldier not the perfect Krogan officer and you can't have your officers afraid of their soldiers. By the way how long do Krogan's live naturally? With all that redundant biology and cellular regeneration they could potentially live damn near forever if they weren't so violent.

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by Sithdarth

By the way how long do Krogan's live naturally? With all that redundant biology and cellular regeneration they could potentially live damn near forever if they weren't so violent.

They can live for well over a thousand years. Krogan are honestly the only other species in which an Asari can find a life-long relationship. If one of their hearts shuts down, then the other ones simply pick up the slack.

It's why, usually, Battlemasters are so feared in the galaxy. Because you aren't just facing down someone who has the respect of other Krogan. You're facing down a guy who has spent the last 600+ years turning killing into a viable profession.

Also, when it comes to Grunt, Okeer made him a genetically perfect Krogan. He used tech from the collectors and took the best genetic traits of all the past Krogan Warlords. Okeer was seeking to turn the Krogan legacy from one of numbers to one of pure combat physiology. So genetically, Grunt is superior to those alive, and will produce superior children.

When it comes to skill, though, he's still learning. The tank gave him a massive instruction booklet and he KNOWS things. Everything there is to know about being a Krogan or combat, he knows it. He just doesn't know how to use that knowledge. He knows a hundred different ways to pry the crest off a Turian's skull, but you never really know how to do it until you try it. Wrex at his proving had both knowledge and experience. Grunt had knowledge. I mean, even if you took a while, he'd have only been out of the tank for about a week. Imagine only starting walking a week ago, and then having to go kill *spoiler*. That's rough. But after a few years of experience, he'll get it together, though he'll never be Officer material. He's a soldier, out to make soldier children, and is happy in his role.

[BitVyper]

Krogan poetry is the best poetry.

[Aerozord]

Tali isn't, her skills come from her being a mechanical genius in an enviroment geared towards developing engineering skills. Mordin for example wasn't picked for his ability to use a gun.

Plus by the looks of it Tali was always sent on the suicide missions. Despite her demeanor she has a rather high standing among her people. Definitely not your average quarian