MASS EFFECT TWO: GIVE GARRUS A HUG

[G.I.R.]

Also, if you listen to Okeer going on about Grunt, he doesn't necessarily even call him the perfect soldier. He talks about him being perfect in reference to the Genophage. Saying "The greatest insult to your enemy is to ignore them." or some such. So maybe... he can breed with other female krogan and have their children not be affected by the Genophage. Consider that maybe... Grunt is the cure. Not a total "halt the effects of" type cure. But it is something to consider.

[Mirai Gen]

IIRC yeah I remember Okeer saying he was a perfect Krogan, I don't think he's the perfect warrior, at least not yet. It was designed more for the genophage I believe.

Also:

[Melfice]

The whole Grunt thing?
I think Grunt was made as a Super Soldier, rather than a cure to the genophage.

Okeer says that the greatest insult to the genophage is to ignore it. In other words, forget about the cure, and work on unification and training.
Every male Krogan born is put through the same rigorous training, instead of being "coddled" like they are now, and it's death or glory during said training.

A quote of Okeer's (Probably remembered wrongly) "They learned to fear the horde. Now let them learn to fear the lance."
In other words, the horde was terrifying. Now you'll see how terrifying it is when you've got a unit of highly trained Krogan commandos against you.

[CABAL49]

Also, after Grunt becomes a man...er adult, be begins to realize the people he descends from. Grunt has never had any combat training of any kind. He just has his memories. Wrex was raised to be a fighter and already had some fighting experience before he fought the tresher. Also, Shepard and crew could already fight those in ME1.

[Odjn]

Wrex has been alive for about 1,100-1,200 years.

[EVILNess]

Renegade Sheppard is the best Sheppard.

Slight Spoiler warning.

[Aerozord]

Krylo I meant they might have become warlords not that they were. No one ever said Wrex didn't have powerful friends. Wrex earned the respect of his peers now, I dont see why you doubt he did the same then.

Something also occured to me about Jack, their super biotic program was easily the most retarded Cerberus plan in the entire game. Even if it worked they'd have an army of super biotics that would love nothing more then to rip out your spleen after the years of torture it took to turn them into super biotics.

PS I think they gave abit more personality to paragon and renegade options. Paragon shepard is laid back and sarcastic, renegade is aggressive and cocky.

Like they were being threatened
Renegade: "You are gonna get out of my way or I'll decorate this hallway with the inside of your skull"
Paragon: "hmm yes but you seem to be forgetting, I have a gun."

Both options result in threatening the person to get them to stand down. But the tone and method differ. Making renegade and paragon choices more of a choice between demeanor then actions

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Something also occured to me about Jack, their super biotic program was easily the most retarded Cerberus plan in the entire game. Even if it worked they'd have an army of super biotics that would love nothing more then to rip out your spleen after the years of torture it took to turn them into super biotics.

Jack's group was a rouge Cerberus group. Also their job was research, not to produce an army. They were only in testing phase.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Jack's group was a rouge Cerberus group. Also their job was research, not to produce an army. They were only in testing phase.

...We've all actually played ME1, right?
Because having just recently played ME1, I mean, this is the same group that thought husks and rachni testing in colonies were awesome ideas. And then they acted shocked when it backfired and they all ended up dying. (Or Shepard showed up, and then they all ended up dying.)

I mean perhaps the most shocking component of ME2 so far is the Illusive Man, insofar as ME1 left me with this impression that Cerberus was run by a legion of right-wing xenophobic buffoons, kind of like Fox News in the 22nd Century, and then suddenly the Illusive Man and Miranda show up and they sound not retarded.

In retrospect it would have been awesome if ME2 actually went in that direction and cast, like, Glenn Beck as the Illusive Man, Michael Steele as Jacob and Sarah Palin as Miranda. (Then Rachel Maddow would be perfect for Jack!)

...Maybe they can still do that with the Terra Firma party in ME3?

EDIT: I actually am now fully convinced that with the right strategy, Bioware could go up to Glenn Beck and pitch the concept of him being a pro-humanity advocate in a sci-fi universe and Glenn Beck would actually sign up for it out of genuine belief that if he lived in the 22nd Century he'd be a member of the Terra Firma party.
...Which is exactly why this has to happen. Don't let me down, Bioware!

[Aerozord]

actually does make sense. Apparently how it works is they are given an assignment, then granted complete autonomy so if one cell is busted they are the only ones affected. One log even said they were hiding the super biotic program from the Illusive Man with the assumption that when it works he'll agree the ends justify the means. Though personally I think he'd only disapprove because testing was being done on humans and if they did the same with, lets say asari kids he wouldn't have given it a second thought. But thats just me

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Jack's group was a rouge Cerberus group. Also their job was research, not to produce an army. They were only in testing phase.

and what about when they were done? They were testing methods that they couldn't use. Jack was powerful and crazy for the exact same reasons. Using their techniques they'd get the same thing