No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle - Page 2

Kim · 01-29-2010, 11:40 AM

Just beat the game. Most everything in the game is a vast improvement.

Shinobu's part had some wonky platforming but it was still a good way to break up the flow of the normal combat.

Henry's part was awesome even if it didn't make any sense.

The end boss and the ending to the game can fuck themselves with a spiky steel dildo. Seriously, what the fuck happened. Did Suda just get to write the last five seconds, and someone else was in charge of the rest of the ending? It feels like I'm missing the True Ending like how you had to get all the swords in the first one to get the True Ending, but... there isn't an alt ending. This is it. Just... FUCK.

Still a great game though, even though the end makes me want to punch Suda 51 dead.

BEST SONG IN THE WHOLE DAMN GAME

phil_ · 02-02-2010, 10:17 PM

So, am I supposed to get anything from 1CCing BJ5 on Hard? 'Cause it seems like kind of a let down that I got something from beating Normal without continues, but nothing from beating Hard without continues. Should I try beating it without dying even once?

Also, I feel a bit sad that I managed this with Blueberry and not Cranberry. Their shot-types are almost identical.

Nightshine · 02-02-2010, 10:47 PM

ITT: We post our Deathmatch Times.

(NOTE: These are all my first times. IE: I have not tried to beat my own records yet)

Skelter Helter: 1:56:34
Nathan Copeland: 2:43:34
Charlie MacDonald: 1:02:64
Kimmy Howell: 1:34:30
Matt Helms: 1:43:44
Cloe Walsh: 1:24:71
Dr. Letz Shake: 1:54:06
Million Gunman: 2:51:68
New Destroyman: 9:22:81
Ryuji: 4:36:44
Mimmy: 3:24:10
Margaret: 2:47:88
Capt. Vladimir: 3:53:78
Alice: 3:28:54
Jasper Batt Jr.: 6:10:54

Squall Leonhart · 02-02-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

[...]Still a great game though, even though the end makes me want to punch Suda 51 dead.[...]

Funny, that's exactly what I felt after I beat the first game. So I take it's still as good and senseless?

Nightshine · 02-02-2010, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart

Funny, that's exactly what I felt after I beat the first game. So I take it's still as good and senseless?

It's the best third party game the Wii has.

Albeit that's not saying much.

Kim · 02-03-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart

Funny, that's exactly what I felt after I beat the first game. So I take it's still as good and senseless?

No. The ending to the first game was a fun back and forth between subverting tropes one moment only to play the same trope straightfaced a moment later.

The final boss of this game feels ripped straight from the Batman comics of old, full of ridiculous enemies and even dumber schemes. The fight goes from meh to infuriating and then to boring. The camera also decides to fuck itself here.

The ending just happens. Nothing is really resolved, and after that disappointing boss fight you find yourself asking "WHAT WAS THE POINT?!" This might be a pretentious commentary on revenge, or maybe one on sequels, but I really don't want to give Suda that much credit, and either way it's still terrible from a design standpoint.

You get something after the credits that is part of a long-running cutaway the game does to foreshadow boss fights, and it feels very much more Suda-esque, but you aren't given any proper context for it, so it fails to redeem anything. It's hardly game ruining, but that it's the last thing you experience before walking away from the TV, it is much more frustrating than it would be were something similar crammed into the middle of the game.

lazy man · 02-03-2010, 08:38 PM

I have to agree that the game was definitely awesome until the last moments. I half expected there to be another battle until the credits started rolling. And even AFTER the credits, there isn't really anything that can compare to Travis getting attacked on the can (or any of the stuff with Henry). Closest thing that comes to that is Travis getting dumped off of Sylvia's bike in front of the motel for no good reason. If it had just ended there I would have laughed more, but it didn't. And that's just sad.

But, ending woes aside, the game grabbed my attention almost immediately and had me playing for a whole day. Combat was fun, visuals were slick (for what it is), and the presentation was... well, it's No More Heroes. If you were a fan of the first game, you'll love the second one right up to the ending. And then the ending is... well, yeah.

Nightshine · 02-03-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightshine

ITT: We post our Deathmatch Times.

(NOTE: These are all my first times. IE: I have not tried to beat my own records yet)

Skelter Helter: 1:56:34
Nathan Copeland: 2:43:34
Charlie MacDonald: 1:02:64
Kimmy Howell: 1:34:30
Matt Helms: 1:43:44
Cloe Walsh: 1:24:71
Dr. Letz Shake: 1:54:06
Million Gunman: 2:51:68
New Destroyman: 9:22:81
Ryuji: 4:36:44
Mimmy: 3:24:10
Margaret: 2:47:88
Capt. Vladimir: 3:53:78
Alice: 3:28:54
Jasper Batt Jr.: 6:10:54

Man, awesome times you got there!

phil_ · 02-09-2010, 01:07 AM

I'm listening to Margaret's song right now, and I am sad.

Also, someone want to cheer me on to beating Bitter? I had enough trouble beating most of the bosses with a health power-up.

01-29-2010, 11:40 AM	#11
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Is this a practical joke? Just beat the game. Most everything in the game is a vast improvement. Shinobu's part had some wonky platforming but it was still a good way to break up the flow of the normal combat. Henry's part was awesome even if it didn't make any sense. The end boss and the ending to the game can fuck themselves with a spiky steel dildo. Seriously, what the fuck happened. Did Suda just get to write the last five seconds, and someone else was in charge of the rest of the ending? It feels like I'm missing the True Ending like how you had to get all the swords in the first one to get the True Ending, but... there isn't an alt ending. This is it. Just... FUCK. Still a great game though, even though the end makes me want to punch Suda 51 dead. BEST SONG IN THE WHOLE DAMN GAME __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy Last edited by Kim; 01-29-2010 at 11:42 AM.

02-02-2010, 10:17 PM	#12
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	So, am I supposed to get anything from 1CCing BJ5 on Hard? 'Cause it seems like kind of a let down that I got something from beating Normal without continues, but nothing from beating Hard without continues. Should I try beating it without dying even once? Also, I feel a bit sad that I managed this with Blueberry and not Cranberry. Their shot-types are almost identical. __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako. Last edited by phil_; 02-02-2010 at 10:47 PM.

02-09-2010, 01:07 AM	#19
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	I'm listening to Margaret's song right now, and I am sad. Also, someone want to cheer me on to beating Bitter? I had enough trouble beating most of the bosses with a health power-up. __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako.

02-02-2010, 10:47 PM	#13
Nightshine Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 283	ITT: We post our Deathmatch Times. (NOTE: These are all my first times. IE: I have not tried to beat my own records yet) Skelter Helter: 1:56:34 Nathan Copeland: 2:43:34 Charlie MacDonald: 1:02:64 Kimmy Howell: 1:34:30 Matt Helms: 1:43:44 Cloe Walsh: 1:24:71 Dr. Letz Shake: 1:54:06 Million Gunman: 2:51:68 New Destroyman: 9:22:81 Ryuji: 4:36:44 Mimmy: 3:24:10 Margaret: 2:47:88 Capt. Vladimir: 3:53:78 Alice: 3:28:54 Jasper Batt Jr.: 6:10:54

02-03-2010, 08:38 PM	#17
lazy man Harrumph! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: My not-so-humble abode Posts: 2,891	I have to agree that the game was definitely awesome until the last moments. I half expected there to be another battle until the credits started rolling. And even AFTER the credits, there isn't really anything that can compare to Travis getting attacked on the can (or any of the stuff with Henry). Closest thing that comes to that is Travis getting dumped off of Sylvia's bike in front of the motel for no good reason. If it had just ended there I would have laughed more, but it didn't. And that's just sad. But, ending woes aside, the game grabbed my attention almost immediately and had me playing for a whole day. Combat was fun, visuals were slick (for what it is), and the presentation was... well, it's No More Heroes. If you were a fan of the first game, you'll love the second one right up to the ending. And then the ending is... well, yeah.