MEGAMAAAAAAN

Kerensky287 · 02-13-2010, 12:59 AM

So, I have recently gone into a bit of a Megaman craze. When I was younger I didn't really have any interest in the series whatsoever, but I played and loved Megaman 9 enough to do a flash movie about it (which I might link in the Drawing section when it's done or something). I also recently started playing Megaman X because I remember watching my friend play once.

I figured, since Megaman 10 has been announced and everything, why not have a thread about it? Who here is a fan of the games? Which ones were good? Who agrees with me that the story occasionally takes itself WAY too seriously...?

Julford Hajime · 02-13-2010, 01:31 AM

I've played most of the original series, as well as most of the Mega Man X series. I have very little to say that is bad about the series, besides that each game has SOMETHING that will piss you off unless you know the trick to it and/or memorize what you need to do and then perform the actions with perfect precision. It could be the Yellow Devil fight, Quick Man's instant-death segment, figuring out which of your eight weapons is the only one to hurt the boss that takes half your bar off a hit, jet bikes, whatever.

ANYWHO, onto the games as I recall them.

Mega Man 1 is a giant bitch. A couple glitches aside, there is also the game-stopping (As far as I know) problem of beating a certain boss (Elec? Cut? I forget just who exactly >.>) before Gutsman, as you need an item found in a specific stage for one of the Wily stages. Still though, it's the original, so I'd give it cred there.

MM2 is my favorite in the series, because Metal Blade is the single most broken weapon in ANY Mega Man series. Huge amounts of ammo, as well as most bosses being weak to it, make it the weapon of choice.

MM 3-6 are a blur, honestly >.> Snake Man was a cool stage, but the boss and his power were stupid and I hate that I need to use it on Wily. Rush killed the difficulty of more than a few segments of the game, and I enjoyed the dog immensely.

MM7 did a lot of things right, and is right behind 2 for my favorite of the original series. A couple neat secrets, some neat powers, and one hellish Wily fight make it a blast to go back and play.

MM8 was... Eh. It just never clicked with me.

MEGA MAN X IS THE BEST MEGA MAN GAME EVER AND I WILL PERSONALLY SLAP ANYONE WHO DARES SAY OTHERWISE.

MMX2 had some great level design, and an honest to god X versus Zero fight. It introduced the Air Dash, and overall just improved on everything great that X did.

MMX3 improved level design even MORE, added a sidequest that altered several endgame bosses, and had my favorite "secret" weapon which was X using Zero's saber to wreck shit.

MMX4 was a big change for the series, but in a good way. Two-part stages, some really unique weapons (Cyber Peacock's, for example), and the ability to play as Zero, who utilizes boss powers completely differently from the traditional MM style.

MMX5 practically fellates everything fans remembered about the original series, as well as finally gave us a "final" fight between X and Zero. Yellow Devil? Now it's the Black Devil. Quick Man's death beams? Back for another round!

And that's all I've really played. Still a lot of games, but I've touched on only a small portion of the MM games out there >.>

Mirai Gen · 02-13-2010, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Julford Hajime

MEGA MAN X IS THE BEST GAME EVER AND I WILL PERSONALLY SLAP ANYONE WHO DARES SAY OTHERWISE.

There.

Christ, I have to do all the work around here.

MuMu · 02-13-2010, 01:47 AM

Don't think I ever payed attention to the story, Zero series excluded. Bad robots, steal their power, kill nigh-invincible last boss.

Anyway, the series as I've played it:

X - Was my first one, still love it. It's not hard, until you hit the non-power stealing bosses. Then shit hits the fan. Finding the Armor Pieces was awesome though.

After that, I got Wily Wars which I recall was the first three NES Megaman games.

MM1 - It was hard as fuck and I don't think I could ever beat a boss in it. Of course, I was quite young, but still.

MM2 - The difficulty goes down a bit, and it has a power you can charge(Or was that in MM3?). That is, until you hit the last boss.

MM3 - My favorite, added Rush and the Slide, found it much easier than it's predecessor but also much more fun.

Then skipped it straight to the PSX where you get:

X4 - If you liked Zero, this is the part where you get a hardon. Guy's playable and has whole different powers from X, not to mention a different story.

X5 - Double the orgasm, now you can swap between then after each misson, although that may cause some problems with the Health upgrades. Again, X and Zero got different playstyles and stories.

X6 - Here it gets tricky. Zero isn't playable at the beginning and you might screw things up for him, if you unlock the guy late in the game. X got three armors in this one, if I'm not mistaken. I remember disliking the story in this one, but not exactly why.

After that it migrates to the PS2, but I lost the interest in playing it on the consoles. However, Nintendo brought the series back into their portables and gave us a couple of new series.

Megaman Zero - My favorite, enjoyed the story and although the levelling system in the first one is pretty annoying, it gets better later( Z3 and Z4 pretty much perfected the playstyle). Ranking system gives you a nice challenge.

Battle Network - I...wasn't fond of this one. Thought it was repetitive, and most of the cast unlikable. However, if you enjoy breaking games, this might be a good choice for you.

Also, a port of Megaman & Bass. It's on the 'hard as fuck, but pretty nice' category.

Zero series later got upgraded to ZX on the DS. It's pretty much a nicer Zero, although I wish the map was easier to explore and we'd get some instructions as to what exactly the powers/armors abilities are.

And...I think that's all. There's Command Mission on the PS2 and Battle Network Something on the GCube, but never played those.

Regulus Tera · 02-13-2010, 01:50 AM

Mega Man Zero 3 was the best. Fact.

Mega Man Zero had the best final boss fight, though.

Julford Hajime · 02-13-2010, 01:56 AM

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Mega Man Zero 3 was the best. Fact.

*Personally slaps Regulus Tera*

I never got into the MMZ games. I forgot to mention MMZ1, which I did beat eventually. I hated the grading system, though I forget if it was the "Punishes the player for being good by denying them future power-ups" or the "Punishes player for doing poorly by denying future power-ups", or even the "Punishes player for daring to use power-ups" model. Either way, I hate being evaluated by the game, as it makes me feel like I need to play the game the way it wants me to play >.>

Mirai Gen · 02-13-2010, 01:56 AM

Mega Man Zero had the best solid platforming and action but some of the arbitrary ELF shit was just batshit bananas, and nobody can decide what his third weapon is through the entire series. Is it a shield? A rod? A chain? Nobody knows!

Mega Man X is pure love all the way through. Sure it isn't exactly complex but it's long before they felt like piling more bullshit onto the game.

EDIT: I did like bonuses for beating bosses in quicker times and whatnot, but if that's the case then what the fuck is up with the lives system? It's hard enough without taking it from the top each three failures.

Regulus Tera · 02-13-2010, 02:00 AM

The thing about MMX is that it's too easy during the platforming sections. Boss fights are challenging enough, but everything else in the game is a cake. I feel like MMX2 beat it soundly on that arena.

As for why MMZ3 is better than MMZ, I'd say it is because of the simplified Elf System.

Whomper · 02-13-2010, 02:04 AM

*takes a deep breath*

In the order I played them:

Mega Man 2 - Hot damn. The only boss I could originally beat was Flash Man. Those were the good ol' days.

Mega Man - Fuck you, Elec Man.

Mega Man 3 - Down + A on controller 2; my first cheat ever. *sheds a tear for nostalgia*

Mega Man 4 - What did Kalinka do with her life? D:

Mega Man 5 - OH GOD WHY CAN'T I JUMP PROPERLY

Mega Man 6 - Fuck you, Tomahawk Man.

Mega Man 7 - Remember that time when we thought Mega Man would be a fun game when blown up to fattening 16-Bit proportions? Yeah no.

Mega Man X - What's this? I can climb walls? FUCK YEAH!

Mega Man X2 - What's this? I kept that sweet dash move from the first one? FUCK YEAH!

Mega Man X3 - What's this? I get to fuck shit up with Zero's Saber? OH FUCK YEAH!

Mega Man X4 - What's this? Loading? Fuck that.

Mega Man 8 - See Mega Man 7.

Mega Man X5 - Who's this flaming dude? Man this series is starting to take a shit.

Mega Man Legends - *tries to jam the controller in the dispenser*

Mega Man X6 - God dammit.

Mega Man X7 - 2.5D? 3D? Fuck your camera, and fuck this series... I'm out.

Mega Man 9 - REDEMPTION!!!! *7th in North America to beat the game*

I'm sure there's some others that go in this list, but other than my painful experience with Legends, I wanted to stick with the main two series. Suffice it to say, I want MM10.

Kerensky287 · 02-13-2010, 02:22 AM

Oh hey, I forgot Legends. I played it as Megaman 64. The voices were pretty terrible (muffled as hell), and I'm sure the story would've been pretty crappy if I could hear what was going on. But I really enjoyed it and would've played the sequel if I had a PS1.

Megaman Zero was also a fucking blast and I'm buying the DS compilation the moment it's released. It felt like 2d Devil May Cry with awesome platforming and a tacked-on inventory system (the cyber-elfs) which you didn't even really need to use anyway. Unfortunately I couldn't play any of them beyond the first because they aren't available in stores anymore, and when I pursued other methods there was this annoying static everywhere.

So I guess for the most part people are saying Megaman X was the best game ever? Maybe I'm just having issues because I'm playing the shitty anime remake on PSP. "Maverick Hunter X"? Screw that. And the little intro before each fight is stupid and the voices are stupid and I miss when Megaman wasn't ALWAYS ANGRY ALL THE TIME.

Gonna, umm, buy the original Megaman X. And play it on my PSP because that's how things work. I'm sure my experience will be completely different - I guess people agree with me that it felt way too easy. Hell, I beat almost every boss on my first try except Sigma. Once I reach that point, I'll either play until I beat him or give up and head on to MMX2.

I'm strongly considering a blind LP for one of these games - nowadays it's just too easy to head online, ask someone "What weapon is best against Launch Octopus", and then beat him with no trouble. Plus, it'll be fun to see how these games stand on their own without all the heavy nostalgia backing them. MMX at least I had the memories of watching my friend beat Chill Penguin and then give up.

02-13-2010, 12:59 AM	#1
Kerensky287 Just That Good Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,426	MEGAMAAAAAAN So, I have recently gone into a bit of a Megaman craze. When I was younger I didn't really have any interest in the series whatsoever, but I played and loved Megaman 9 enough to do a flash movie about it (which I might link in the Drawing section when it's done or something). I also recently started playing Megaman X because I remember watching my friend play once. I figured, since Megaman 10 has been announced and everything, why not have a thread about it? Who here is a fan of the games? Which ones were good? Who agrees with me that the story occasionally takes itself WAY too seriously...?

02-13-2010, 01:31 AM	#2
Julford Hajime Monty Mole Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 744	I love this series. I've played most of the original series, as well as most of the Mega Man X series. I have very little to say that is bad about the series, besides that each game has SOMETHING that will piss you off unless you know the trick to it and/or memorize what you need to do and then perform the actions with perfect precision. It could be the Yellow Devil fight, Quick Man's instant-death segment, figuring out which of your eight weapons is the only one to hurt the boss that takes half your bar off a hit, jet bikes, whatever. ANYWHO, onto the games as I recall them. Mega Man 1 is a giant bitch. A couple glitches aside, there is also the game-stopping (As far as I know) problem of beating a certain boss (Elec? Cut? I forget just who exactly >.>) before Gutsman, as you need an item found in a specific stage for one of the Wily stages. Still though, it's the original, so I'd give it cred there. MM2 is my favorite in the series, because Metal Blade is the single most broken weapon in ANY Mega Man series. Huge amounts of ammo, as well as most bosses being weak to it, make it the weapon of choice. MM 3-6 are a blur, honestly >.> Snake Man was a cool stage, but the boss and his power were stupid and I hate that I need to use it on Wily. Rush killed the difficulty of more than a few segments of the game, and I enjoyed the dog immensely. MM7 did a lot of things right, and is right behind 2 for my favorite of the original series. A couple neat secrets, some neat powers, and one hellish Wily fight make it a blast to go back and play. MM8 was... Eh. It just never clicked with me. MEGA MAN X IS THE BEST MEGA MAN GAME EVER AND I WILL PERSONALLY SLAP ANYONE WHO DARES SAY OTHERWISE. MMX2 had some great level design, and an honest to god X versus Zero fight. It introduced the Air Dash, and overall just improved on everything great that X did. MMX3 improved level design even MORE, added a sidequest that altered several endgame bosses, and had my favorite "secret" weapon which was X using Zero's saber to wreck shit. MMX4 was a big change for the series, but in a good way. Two-part stages, some really unique weapons (Cyber Peacock's, for example), and the ability to play as Zero, who utilizes boss powers completely differently from the traditional MM style. MMX5 practically fellates everything fans remembered about the original series, as well as finally gave us a "final" fight between X and Zero. Yellow Devil? Now it's the Black Devil. Quick Man's death beams? Back for another round! And that's all I've really played. Still a lot of games, but I've touched on only a small portion of the MM games out there >.>

02-13-2010, 01:56 AM	#7
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Mega Man Zero had the best solid platforming and action but some of the arbitrary ELF shit was just batshit bananas, and nobody can decide what his third weapon is through the entire series. Is it a shield? A rod? A chain? Nobody knows! Mega Man X is pure love all the way through. Sure it isn't exactly complex but it's long before they felt like piling more bullshit onto the game. EDIT: I did like bonuses for beating bosses in quicker times and whatnot, but if that's the case then what the fuck is up with the lives system? It's hard enough without taking it from the top each three failures. __________________

02-13-2010, 01:47 AM	#4
MuMu Rocky Wrench Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rio Posts: 1,197	Don't think I ever payed attention to the story, Zero series excluded. Bad robots, steal their power, kill nigh-invincible last boss. Anyway, the series as I've played it: X - Was my first one, still love it. It's not hard, until you hit the non-power stealing bosses. Then shit hits the fan. Finding the Armor Pieces was awesome though. After that, I got Wily Wars which I recall was the first three NES Megaman games. MM1 - It was hard as fuck and I don't think I could ever beat a boss in it. Of course, I was quite young, but still. MM2 - The difficulty goes down a bit, and it has a power you can charge(Or was that in MM3?). That is, until you hit the last boss. MM3 - My favorite, added Rush and the Slide, found it much easier than it's predecessor but also much more fun. Then skipped it straight to the PSX where you get: X4 - If you liked Zero, this is the part where you get a hardon. Guy's playable and has whole different powers from X, not to mention a different story. X5 - Double the orgasm, now you can swap between then after each misson, although that may cause some problems with the Health upgrades. Again, X and Zero got different playstyles and stories. X6 - Here it gets tricky. Zero isn't playable at the beginning and you might screw things up for him, if you unlock the guy late in the game. X got three armors in this one, if I'm not mistaken. I remember disliking the story in this one, but not exactly why. After that it migrates to the PS2, but I lost the interest in playing it on the consoles. However, Nintendo brought the series back into their portables and gave us a couple of new series. Megaman Zero - My favorite, enjoyed the story and although the levelling system in the first one is pretty annoying, it gets better later( Z3 and Z4 pretty much perfected the playstyle). Ranking system gives you a nice challenge. Battle Network - I...wasn't fond of this one. Thought it was repetitive, and most of the cast unlikable. However, if you enjoy breaking games, this might be a good choice for you. Also, a port of Megaman & Bass. It's on the 'hard as fuck, but pretty nice' category. Zero series later got upgraded to ZX on the DS. It's pretty much a nicer Zero, although I wish the map was easier to explore and we'd get some instructions as to what exactly the powers/armors abilities are. And...I think that's all. There's Command Mission on the PS2 and Battle Network Something on the GCube, but never played those.

02-13-2010, 01:50 AM	#5
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	Mega Man Zero 3 was the best. Fact. Mega Man Zero had the best final boss fight, though.

02-13-2010, 02:00 AM	#8
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	The thing about MMX is that it's too easy during the platforming sections. Boss fights are challenging enough, but everything else in the game is a cake. I feel like MMX2 beat it soundly on that arena. As for why MMZ3 is better than MMZ, I'd say it is because of the simplified Elf System.

02-13-2010, 02:22 AM	#10
Kerensky287 Just That Good Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,426	Oh hey, I forgot Legends. I played it as Megaman 64. The voices were pretty terrible (muffled as hell), and I'm sure the story would've been pretty crappy if I could hear what was going on. But I really enjoyed it and would've played the sequel if I had a PS1. Megaman Zero was also a fucking blast and I'm buying the DS compilation the moment it's released. It felt like 2d Devil May Cry with awesome platforming and a tacked-on inventory system (the cyber-elfs) which you didn't even really need to use anyway. Unfortunately I couldn't play any of them beyond the first because they aren't available in stores anymore, and when I pursued other methods there was this annoying static everywhere. So I guess for the most part people are saying Megaman X was the best game ever? Maybe I'm just having issues because I'm playing the shitty anime remake on PSP. "Maverick Hunter X"? Screw that. And the little intro before each fight is stupid and the voices are stupid and I miss when Megaman wasn't ALWAYS ANGRY ALL THE TIME. Gonna, umm, buy the original Megaman X. And play it on my PSP because that's how things work. I'm sure my experience will be completely different - I guess people agree with me that it felt way too easy. Hell, I beat almost every boss on my first try except Sigma. Once I reach that point, I'll either play until I beat him or give up and head on to MMX2. I'm strongly considering a blind LP for one of these games - nowadays it's just too easy to head online, ask someone "What weapon is best against Launch Octopus", and then beat him with no trouble. Plus, it'll be fun to see how these games stand on their own without all the heavy nostalgia backing them. MMX at least I had the memories of watching my friend beat Chill Penguin and then give up.