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Unread 02-26-2010, 05:47 AM   #31
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My main worries about this game aren't limited to OMGSAMUSBOOBIESLULZ.

Basically, and perhaps I'm way off base here, but when I hear Team Ninja, my first thoughts are Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden. I thought Ninja Gaiden was fucking awesome, and Ninja Gaiden II was also pretty great, though not as good as the first game. My problem is that they decided that they're going to try and flesh out Samus as a character and have a deeper story or some such nonsense. I am not inherently opposed to this idea either, though I do worry, like BitVyper said, that it'll detract from other positive elements of the Metroid games.

However, I have seen nothing that suggests that Team Ninja has ever had writing that even the nicest person would call mediocre. When I hear Team Ninja and writing in the same sentence my first thought is "SO. BAD." Maybe I've missed some fifty other titles they've done that have had writing amazing enough to bring me to tears, but I doubt it. I just think that the group trying to flesh out Samus' character, something prior games have gotten along fine without, should be a group better known for their writing ability, instead of Team Ninja.

Furthermore, I'm not sure how I feel about the gameplay. 2D? Awesome. Great. Fantastic. 2D that can switch into first person whenever? I worry. It might be good and evolve the gameplay like never before seen, but I'm suspicious because it is new. Plus, as far as I know, Team Ninja doesn't exactly have experience making this type of title, and as such I don't know if it will have any of the qualities I enjoy in a Metroid game.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 06:05 AM   #32
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My main worries about this game aren't limited to OMGSAMUSBOOBIESLULZ.
I think we would probably have gotten in better sync if our conversation wasn't limited to a hundred and fourty letters minus our respective names and an @ symbol.

Cause I mostly agree - their writing hasn't been anything to jump and wave a club around about, but this seems like they're at least trying. Even if it isn't Mass Effect 2 it certainly won't be Bayonetta, and nobody really checks out Metroid for the story.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 06:12 AM   #33
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nobody really checks out Metroid for the story.
Which is why I'd really rather not have Metroid changed from the very basic, non-intrusive story that it normally has, but if it is changed from that, I'd really like it to be done by someone I know can write. Instead, a company that can't write are the ones deciding that Metroid needs more writing. Thus my gripe. Don't make me watch Samus talk if you can't write decent dialogue and some such...

But yeah. Dammit Twitter.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 06:15 AM   #34
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Which is why I'd really rather not have Metroid changed from the very basic, non-intrusive story that it normally has, but if it is changed from that, I'd really like it to be done by someone I know can write.
Bit late for that - Metroid Fusion threw textboxes at you every five minutes and pretty much shit the worldess dialog I loved so much.

At least Zero Mission went back to basics and ruled because of it.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 06:21 AM   #35
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I find it ironic that people are worried about Metroid when Retro did something entirely new with Metroid after such a long time of NO M games.

And let's be reasonable, Itagaki is no longer a part of Team Ninja. While that was known for "OMGBOOOOOBS!" while he was around, perhaps even Team Ninja wanted to take a new direction after so much work on the DoA and Gaiden series.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 06:31 AM   #36
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I find it ironic that people are worried about Metroid when Retro did something entirely new with Metroid after such a long time of NO M games.
That's... not really irony. One company managed to do something new with a franchise and do well. There really isn't any reason to think that Team Ninja will be able to do the same, since Metroid is an entirely different genre than what they've been making, and one of the things they plan on doing to the series, focusing more on the writing, is something they aren't exactly known for. Being skeptical is a pretty fair reaction.

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1. They put six-axis boobie controls into a game after he left. They also made Dead or Alive Paradise after he left.

2. I don't think anyone has seriously assumed that they're going to kill Metroid with fanservice.
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2. I don't think anyone has seriously assumed that they're going to kill Metroid with fanservice.
Someone hasn't heard about the Negative One Suit!

Just out of curiousity I did a google search for 'Samus' and 'Team Ninja'. I'm sure you can guess the sort of thing that came up.

Oh well, here is a picture of Samus kicking a pirate in the face.
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Unread 02-26-2010, 11:52 AM   #38
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Someone hasn't heard about the Negative One Suit!

Just out of curiousity I did a google search for 'Samus' and 'Team Ninja'. I'm sure you can guess the sort of thing that came up.

Oh well, here is a picture of Samus kicking a pirate in the face.

Oh please..... i had to search for was "Samus" and i got Bikini Samus, Zombie samus and Zelda Making out with Samus while peach watches within the first 5 pages.

And regarding her current Suit.. are these representations of her older suits accurate?

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Unread 02-26-2010, 01:02 PM   #39
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That's... not really irony. One company managed to do something new with a franchise and do well. There really isn't any reason to think that Team Ninja will be able to do the same, since Metroid is an entirely different genre than what they've been making, and one of the things they plan on doing to the series, focusing more on the writing, is something they aren't exactly known for. Being skeptical is a pretty fair reaction.
Actually, it is. Retro had no track record whatsoever and yet they've gone on to build the Metroid franchise into a strong first person platformer. Nintendo watched over them but at the very least, Retro was able to invigorate new life into the franchise.

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2. I don't think anyone has seriously assumed that they're going to kill Metroid with fanservice.
Touche. They won't kill it but maybe they can get to the woman behind the power suit without overstereotyping.

*suddenly has flashbacks of the Ninja Gaiden 2 commercial in Japan...*

Yeah...
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Unread 02-26-2010, 01:58 PM   #40
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Retro was also the one who came up with the Zero Suit, and they made Metroid Prime.

Sooooooo....

Uh, what?

The Zero Suit is named after Metroid Zero Mission, which was made by Nintendo R&D 1, aka Sakamoto's team. The Zero Suit was then inserted into Prime 2 and 3 because Nintendo has been trying to nail out Samus' design since then. Retro had nothing to do with that.
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