Late to the party: Persona 4 - Page 5

Solid Snake · 03-30-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 01d55

I did not even know it was possible to sincerely be bad at a JRPG but there they are, casting bufu on things they shouldn't.

...This did, however, provide one of the most hysterical moments in the entire endurance run, during their fight against Shadow Teddy.

Corel · 03-31-2010, 04:27 AM

I found it even more entertaining that they were pretty bad at it, really made a lot of the fights pretty tense. Especially thinking about Yukiko's and Teddie's fight.

Dungeon crawling was a bit tedious, though.

Casting bufu on Teddie's shadow and Auto Rushing the Final Boss, priceless.

Kim · 03-31-2010, 12:33 PM

Another complaint about Persona 4 that I'll just throw out there is that there are too many recolors. Kind of a natural result of not using the demons as your opponents, but I wished the opponents were more related to the dungeon.

bluestarultor · 03-31-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

Another complaint about Persona 4 that I'll just throw out there is that there are too many recolors. Kind of a natural result of not using the demons as your opponents, but I wished the opponents were more related to the dungeon.

Well, that's pretty much par for the course, really. Same with P3.

I do, however, like the new cop enemies in Kanji's dungeon, with the donuts stuck in their mouths. XD

On Chie, her voice has gotten better, but it seems every time I'm ready to start liking her, she says something really bitchy.

Kim · 03-31-2010, 01:18 PM

Yeah, it was just less noticeable in Persona 3 because there was always just a look for a section, but not much more than that. Persona 4 has thematic dungeons, so the excessive amount of recolors stands out more because of that. It's not a big deal, but it's my favorite jRPG. I gotta nitpick the hell out of it. :P

Solid Snake · 03-31-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestarultor

On Chie, her voice has gotten better, but it seems every time I'm ready to start liking her, she says something really bitchy.

Replace "Chie" with "Yukiko," and that's more or less exactly how I felt about Yukiko in P4.

As for Chie, I liked her from the very beginning.
Then again, as Matt Speroni knows, I tend to crush on tomboys...

For the record, my favorite fan-pairings (not remotely canon) in the game were MC and Chie, Yosuke and Yukiko, with Kanji, Rise and Naoto all remaining single. Those are not the popular couplings in Persona 4 fandom, but I think that's what attracts me all the more to the pairings. I'm such a rebel!

...But MC and Chie always worked best for me because they have good times together but the relationship is perfectly understated. It's clear they really like each other, but like typical high school students, they don't go around declaring their love or anything. Chie never stoops to Rise's lows of actively flirting with the MC out of some warped desperation for attention. Naoto's a close second option but I felt her character was introduced to the storyline too late -- and revealed as a female even later -- for a romance to feel realistic.

As for Yukiko and Yosuke, I felt they're both somewhat dark and immature (despite Yukiko's attempts to come off as an adult) which made them an ideal fit. I can understand why so many like pairing Yosuke and Chie under the sheer "opposites attract; sexual tension galore" reasoning, but that concept annoys me because I always end up feeling Chie deserves so much better. And the benefit of the Chie / MC connection is, she ultimately plans to work for Dojima, so it's a nice way to keep Dojima and Nanako in the MC's life, too.

MGS, Persona 4 and Ace Attorney are really the only three games / series where I'm remotely invested in the shipper's arguments. But the latter two were relatively recent acquisitions for me, so it always shocks me to discover I care so much...particularly since I've played dozens of RPGs before Persona 4 and not felt nearly as invested in the characters (despite fully enjoying the storylines.)

bluestarultor · 03-31-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

Yeah, it was just less noticeable in Persona 3 because there was always just a look for a section, but not much more than that. Persona 4 has thematic dungeons, so the excessive amount of recolors stands out more because of that. It's not a big deal, but it's my favorite jRPG. I gotta nitpick the hell out of it. :P

Yeah, there definitely is that. I mean, in the same dungeon as the police monsters, you have tigers, in an odd choice of modifying the lions representing the Strength Arcana in P3. It's odd, because it seems they were really trying to distance this one from the Tarot theme that the series is pretty much based on. The lions made sense in P3 because they're representations of the Strength Arcana, and it was obvious because the card depicts someone prying a lion's mouth open. Tigers make significantly less sense. Also, it seems like they blurred the numerals on all the Shadows' masks this time around, where in P3, they were very loud and clear.

It just bothers me a bit, because P3 was very good about making the Arcana into enemies. I can get not wanting to recycle set pieces too much, but then why do the "paint over it and hope no one notices" thing? They MADE new models for the thing. It's not like they were really tying themselves to what came before, what with the total exclusion of Mayas so far, among other things. Anyone who's seen the lions from P3 will instantly recognize the animations and design of the tigers, but the change seems unnecessary, because tigers make little to no more sense in their chosen habitat than lions do. If they'd wanted to have a better enemy for that place, they could have taken the giant Hulk Hogan rip-offs, and it would have been just fine.

It just seems pointless modifying set pieces like that, because the series is not going to be safer from religious criticism because of it.

EVILNess · 04-01-2010, 07:30 AM

Oh My God! Persona 5 Screenshots!

I'm geeking out here!

Regulus Tera · 04-06-2010, 01:04 AM

Guys, I just came to a sudden realisation: my time playing FFXIII could have been spent on Persona 4.

I feel dirty.

EVILNess · 04-06-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Guys, I just came to a sudden realisation: my time playing FFXIII could have been spent on Persona 4.

I feel dirty.

We told you it was awesome.

03-31-2010, 04:27 AM	#42
Corel Welcome, to Paedogeddon! Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,015	IMMA WEARING MA' OWL HEAD! I found it even more entertaining that they were pretty bad at it, really made a lot of the fights pretty tense. Especially thinking about Yukiko's and Teddie's fight. Dungeon crawling was a bit tedious, though. Casting bufu on Teddie's shadow and Auto Rushing the Final Boss, priceless. __________________ Last edited by Corel; 03-31-2010 at 04:32 AM.

03-31-2010, 12:33 PM	#43
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Another complaint about Persona 4 that I'll just throw out there is that there are too many recolors. Kind of a natural result of not using the demons as your opponents, but I wished the opponents were more related to the dungeon.

03-31-2010, 01:18 PM	#45
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Yeah, it was just less noticeable in Persona 3 because there was always just a look for a section, but not much more than that. Persona 4 has thematic dungeons, so the excessive amount of recolors stands out more because of that. It's not a big deal, but it's my favorite jRPG. I gotta nitpick the hell out of it. :P

04-06-2010, 01:04 AM	#49
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	Guys, I just came to a sudden realisation: my time playing FFXIII could have been spent on Persona 4. I feel dirty.