Pope Benedict XVI Doesn't Want To Talk About Molestation Comitted By Priests Recently - Page 10

BitVyper · 04-08-2010, 08:14 AM

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When a ravening mob of Sodom wants to rape Lot's male guests it kinda lends weight to the word's origins.

If the only potential problem someone sees with that is that it would be totally gay, then it shows a clear predisposition on their part. Also the bit with the angels is only one part of the story. They were bigtime sinners well before God sent angels down. What happened would be like if a restaurant's staff tried to rape the health inspector.

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To clarify this: It kinda does, in a roundabout way.

No it doesn't. The actual story has gay sex happening. When it gets referred to later in Ezekiel, it says that they were destroyed for being arrogant, and that while they had plenty, they didn't share. The closest thing it says to homosexuality is that they committed abominations, which covers a pretty broad group of don'ts.

Professor Smarmiarty · 04-08-2010, 10:08 AM

I would think the raping part would be of more importance than the male guests part.

Melfice · 04-08-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I would think the raping part would be of more importance than the male guests part.

Not if being gay is a bigger crime than raping somebody.
Which it is in some countries, I'm sure!

Brainmeats · 06-23-2010, 10:46 AM

How about some verses?

The Story of Sodom Genesis 19

Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Also, this isn't the only place homosexuality and sexual perversions are mentioned as sinful.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

There are several passages such as this one. Either way, back to the point... there's too much child abuse period. Not just in the Catholic Church. Sickening Statistics

Professor Smarmiarty · 06-23-2010, 11:04 AM

"Sexual immorality" does not equal "homosexuality".
In Corinithians the word "homosexual" is in the Greek "arsenokoitai" which we have no other references to- including from texts written at the same time which deal exclusively with homosexuality- they don't use this word. There were plenty of commonly used words to mean homosexuality and it is very curious why they wouldn't be used if that is what they meant.
The root words mean "man" and "sex" which is where we get the "homosexuality" from but its unconvincing. People have suggested its placement in this list suggests the sexual aggressive, maybe the rapist, maybe the person who uses prostitutes.
Difficult to translate passages these are.

**Satan's Onion** · 06-23-2010, 11:09 AM

O-kaaay, Brainmeats, this thread is like two months old. That means we've been done with this thread for quite a while now. And around here, we prefer that people not necropost in threads that old. Why, it's even a rule in our rules thread and everything.

Anyway, I'm a-locking this thread before it goes zombie and eats our precious, precious brains.

06-23-2010, 10:46 AM	#94
Brainmeats Master of Sword-Chuckery Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: On the MS River Posts: 68	How about some verses? The Story of Sodom Genesis 19 Jude 1:7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. Also, this isn't the only place homosexuality and sexual perversions are mentioned as sinful. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. There are several passages such as this one. Either way, back to the point... there's too much child abuse period. Not just in the Catholic Church. Sickening Statistics __________________ Bees Like Honey. :fighter: Sound has color now!!! :fighter:

06-23-2010, 11:09 AM	#96
Satan's Onion Swing You Sinners! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 4th Street Posts: 2,666	O-kaaay, Brainmeats, this thread is like two months old. That means we've been done with this thread for quite a while now. And around here, we prefer that people not necropost in threads that old. Why, it's even a rule in our rules thread and everything. Anyway, I'm a-locking this thread before it goes zombie and eats our precious, precious brains. __________________ Good evening, ladies. Please enter and be tained .

04-08-2010, 10:08 AM	#92
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	I would think the raping part would be of more importance than the male guests part.

06-23-2010, 11:04 AM	#95
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	"Sexual immorality" does not equal "homosexuality". In Corinithians the word "homosexual" is in the Greek "arsenokoitai" which we have no other references to- including from texts written at the same time which deal exclusively with homosexuality- they don't use this word. There were plenty of commonly used words to mean homosexuality and it is very curious why they wouldn't be used if that is what they meant. The root words mean "man" and "sex" which is where we get the "homosexuality" from but its unconvincing. People have suggested its placement in this list suggests the sexual aggressive, maybe the rapist, maybe the person who uses prostitutes. Difficult to translate passages these are.