Brians Superman Post

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

This is complete nonsense. You reducing morality to a simple math equation of how many people live and how many die- not even utilitarians do this (and if they did the utility loss of letting a few individuals adminster justice and death should easily outwiegh the benefits), not even comic books do this.
As discussed above, superman doesn't say "Oh I'll let this person die to save a 100 people" he tries to save everybody and generally does because that's what he does. Superman is pretty good at saving everyone

Joker kills people because he likes doing so and will never stop killing people, with the possible exception of Batman dying sometimes (but not the actual Bat death.)

So yes, I will, because he is a grade A evil guy and it's either he dies or every one he continues to kill dies and it's up to you which happens. The answer is, kill his dumb ass dead because if the legal system doesn't do it, someone should. There's no reason NOT to kill the joker- he always gets out and always kills more people and no shrink can cure him. He's less of a man and more of a beast/force of nature. And yeah, he's 'come back from the dead' a lot, but I don't seem to recall someone shooting him in the head and burning the corpse so someone should give that a try.

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I'm saying this in relation to a comic book world where there is "evil" and "good" as definite concepts and one of them is inherentely bad and liek a disease. Comic book people don't work like real people, villains generally can't choose to change because they are cast as archetypal villains. You are trying to hodge-podge comic book morality with real people- it doesn't work.

No, some comic books treat it like that and some don't.

Good comics do treat good/evil as vague, good fictional characters aren't how real people act but are reasonable replicas, and good fiction can present the illusion of choice which makes quite a lot of villains more compelling.