Obama 2012

[Flarecobra]

Depends on who the other person will be.

[Bells]

Originally Posted by BitVyper

Palin is the president this system deserves.

Which makes me really nervous to think that Donald Trump is also running for the same job as she -and- for the same party.

And that fucker has the money and the ego to actually think he can win. Sarah Palin just lives on Lalala Land where she actually thinks she is a Political candidate able to rule a world superpower

[Hatake Kakashi]

Originally Posted by Bells

world superpower

Don't you worry. With the way the douchebags in our government are unable to get anything done even when they have a solid majority, rather than a pissing contest with a minority that's determined to take a shit on the people to make a statement, we won't be one for much longer.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Channnnnnnngeeeeeeeeeee, changggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeee, changgggggggggggeeeeeeee


I'm on the Trump train! Choooo choooo! Chooo chooo!
When O'Reilly thinks you are a bit nuts you are clearly a correct thinker.

[Magic_Marker]

Originally Posted by BitVyper

Palin is the president this system deserves.

Because she's the president America deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt her because she can take it.

[bluestarultor]

Barring something catastrophic, voting Obama. It's really not his fault the country as it is; Congress is what needed to get its act together with the whole "reaching across the aisle" bullshit. "Reaching across the aisle" is something you do when you need the other side's votes and/or the other side is actually being reasonable, neither of which was the case.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

It's really not his fault the country as it is; Congress is what needed to get its act together with the whole "reaching across the aisle" bullshit.

Obama's one of the biggest proponents of reaching across the aisle, though.

That the Republicans go ahead and call him a communazi socialist who refuses to compromise on anything, anyway, is a lot of what you need to know about both the Republicans and the Democrats.

None of this post should be taken as saying you shouldn't vote for Obama in the general election.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Obama's one of the biggest proponents of reaching across the aisle, though.

That the Republicans go ahead and call him a communazi socialist who refuses to compromise on anything, anyway, is a lot of what you need to know about both the Republicans and the Democrats.

Definitely. Reaching across the aisle has been one of his biggest problems, he just can't quite seem to figure out that republicans aren't interested in sharing power, compromise or his ideals.

[Magic_Marker]

In 2007 and 2008 I thought reaching across the aisle was a wonderful idea. But in the last years in practice is only means that Republicans obstruct government, forcing Democrats to herd themselves like cats to get anything done at all.

That does not a good government make.

Anyway, I don't personally think Obama will have *too* much trouble being re-elected. The Republican party is more radicalized now than it has been in years and I don't see a moderate conservative like McCain winning the nomination. Voter turnout is always better during presidential elections than during off years additionally. I just don't see a single Republican on the national scale that has any appeal past the Tea Party.

Obama has progressives votes because, while he's more moderate, and sometimes downright conservative, than they'd like, he isn't Sarah Palin. And Moderates will vote for him because right now Newt fucking Gingrich is a contender for the nomination.

We're seeing true libertarianism in the house however. This may serve to break some of the homogeneity of the Republican party as freshman congressmen with R's on their name are none too fond of the Patriot Act.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Magic_Marker

In 2007 and 2008 I thought reaching across the aisle was a wonderful idea. But in the last years in practice is only means that Republicans obstruct government, forcing Democrats to herd themselves like cats to get anything done at all.

That does not a good government make.

Pretty much this. It was buzz words that sounded good at the time, but they made the mistake of actually trying it.

We're seeing true libertarianism in the house however. This may serve to break some of the homogeneity of the Republican party as freshman congressmen with R's on their name are none too fond of the Patriot Act.

The Patriot Act being killed would make me all kinds of happy. It's encouraging to know there are still decent people left in the Republican party.