Gender Identity Discussion Thread

[Fenris]

@Non:

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Magus

Cisgender is kind of a weird word, though, wouldn't homogender mean the same thing or is that something else?

Perhaps, though I think without explanation people would assume it has something to do with homosexuality. In that regards it'd be counter-intuitive. Plus, I'm used to cis-gender and I'm too old and grumpy to change my lexicon.

[Kerensky287]

Look, I get that you're going through a lot of stuff. I get that there are some ways you define yourself by that, unfortunately, are poorly understood by a lot of people in the world.

But you are kind of coming off as an absolute dick right now.

If someone says something insensitive to you, the proper reaction is not to lash out and rage at them. There are a lot of words here that a lot of people have never heard of, nor ever thought of as "necessary," and when you act as if it's 100% obvious that it should ALWAYS EXIST FOREVER, well, some people don't/didn't see it that way.

If you want people to treat you with tolerance - and I assume you do, otherwise you probably wouldn't have made this thread - then you should recognize that people aren't intentionally stamping down on you or a group you associate with. Stop acting like someone spat in your face. Educate them if you feel it's necessary.

EDIT: Fenny that gif is starting to hurt my eye through sheer empathy

hooves do not go there

especially cartoon plastic hooves

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Kerensky287

If someone says something insensitive to you, the proper reaction is not to lash out and rage at them. There are a lot of words here that a lot of people have never heard of, nor ever thought of as "necessary," and when you act as if it's 100% obvious that it should ALWAYS EXIST FOREVER, well, some people don't/didn't see it that way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Kerensky287

Look, I get that you're going through a lot of stuff. I get that there are some ways you define yourself by that, unfortunately, are poorly understood by a lot of people in the world.

But you are kind of coming off as an absolute dick right now.

If someone says something insensitive to you, the proper reaction is not to lash out and rage at them. There are a lot of words here that a lot of people have never heard of, nor ever thought of as "necessary," and when you act as if it's 100% obvious that it should ALWAYS EXIST FOREVER, well, some people don't/didn't see it that way.

If you want people to treat you with tolerance - and I assume you do, otherwise you probably wouldn't have made this thread - then you should recognize that people aren't intentionally stamping down on you or a group you associate with. Stop acting like someone spat in your face. Educate them if you feel it's necessary.

EDIT: Fenny that gif is starting to hurt my eye through sheer empathy

hooves do not go there

especially cartoon plastic hooves

Right, because "I don't care about offending people" and him claiming to respond with "fuck you" to someone asking that he try not to offend intersex people shows that there is clearly a wealth of understanding, compassion, and caring deep within his heart.

Clearly he is incredibly open to being educated and convinced of the wrongness of his ways, which is why he just said he doesn't care about offending people before leaving the discussion. If only I had taken the time to show patience to someone with admittedly zero interest in the feelings of others they would have seen the light.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Right, because "I don't care about offending people" and him claiming to respond with "fuck you" to someone asking that he try not to offend intersex people shows that there is clearly a wealth of understanding, compassion, and caring deep within his heart.

There's a difference between bigotry and a disdain for compulsory political correctness.

Words are words.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Fenris

There's a difference between bigotry and a disdain for political correctness.

Words are words.

If you don't care about the feelings of intersex people, then it is reasonable to assume you do not care about the feelings of intersex people. It's not exactly a logic leap.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg

^

[Kim]

Or are you going to argue that a person who used the word "faggot" around me, and when I explained that I found the word offensive as it was typically used in an offensive way towards gay people, a group to which I belong, and their response was dismissive and rude, that they truly and deeply cared about the plight of gay people.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by NonCon

If you don't care about the feelings of intersex people, then it is reasonable to assume you do not care about the feelings of intersex people. It's not exactly a logic leap.

Yeah, I'm with you here.

Granted, if you want someone to care about you, generally making them dislike you isn't the way to do it.


But I think that it all comes down to, again, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg


Er, somehow hit delete instead of edit. And then checked off the box. Because I pay attention when I do stuff.

And I even forget what I was editting in.


Edit: Because I'm not going to sit here idly and not have this post get editted, after all that work.