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Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 06-08-2011, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

That's actually bad hygiene. You're damaging the outer layers of your skin which are good protetion. Unless you are super active you generally should shower only every other day except when you have been out and sweating and things.

I think that's only hot water though, ideally cooler water every day or a warmer every other day.

pochercoaster · 06-08-2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

That's actually bad hygiene. You're damaging the outer layers of your skin which are good protetion. Unless you are super active you generally should shower only every other day except when you have been out and sweating and things.

As for interview just take it naturally. If you be someone you are not in interviews then it just going to cause trouble in the job.

If you're going to work in a greasy spoon and don't already shower every day you will need to VERY soon.

My boss doesn't shower every day and it's fuckin disgusting, I can smell him from a few feet away. Needless to say our business isn't doing well- I'm surprised I still have a job after 2 years of our store struggling. (There's other reasons for the business doing poorly too, but being able to smell your server from across the counter definitely isn't helping.)

I haven't seen any evidence to back up this claim, seems like it took off after it appeared on cracked. Haven't noticed my skin being less protective after taking a shower.

By the way, don't do the opposite and dump a bottle of cologne on yourself before the interview. In fact, don't wear any amount of cologne, because while your girlfriend might like how it smells, your future manager may hate it, even if they only pick up on it subconsciously, and it's general policy in most workplaces to not wear any scents. You'll be burger scented by the end of the day anyways.

Maintain eye contact but not to the point of creepy unblinking staring.

Don't wear a tie, wear a decent collared shirt though. I've swung by all my interviews in nice jeans but most of the places that hired me didn't really care about anything so *shrug*

Don't make up a bunch of bullshit, but don't sound apathetic. Be straightforward- if you want the job so you can have some spare money while you do school full time, say so. Don't ramble, if the interviewer wants your life story they'll ask for it, and always answer questions directly. If they ask you anything about working with others or customer satisfaction the answer always is you loooove people.

Edit: Also, brush your teeth (and your tongue, 'cause that's where most bad breath comes from).

Amake · 06-09-2011, 01:35 AM

I totally lost the link discussing the study that proved it, but if you maintain eye contact flawlessly you're an egocentric old fossile, while those who are open to new ideas are more likely to look at what the person they're talking to looks at.

***Fenris*** · 06-09-2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

That's actually bad hygiene. You're damaging the outer layers of your skin which are good protetion. Unless you are super active you generally should shower only every other day except when you have been out and sweating and things.

As for interview just take it naturally. If you be someone you are not in interviews then it just going to cause trouble in the job.

The thing about that is if you are trying to win points, going in smelling like body soil isn't going to help you any.

Just be honest with yourself and with them. Relax. Eat a banana for breakfast. The potassium will calm your nerves a bit throughout the day.

Professor Smarmiarty · 06-09-2011, 02:31 AM

Smelly doesn't equal bad hygiene guys. Your lizard brain is tricking you. And when your prospective employer wrinkles his nose tell him this as well. He will thank you for it.

The trap question is always what are you weakness.
Some employers want you to list weaknesses that are secretely strength.
Some employers will think you are being a shit and not answering the question if you do this and want an honest answer. Most people I've seen recommend going the first route, I've always found the second route better in my experience. But make the judgement as you go.

Ryanderman · 06-09-2011, 10:09 AM

I've always found that listing real weaknesses, but explifying strength by describing how I overcome them generally works well.

Eltargrim · 06-09-2011, 11:23 AM

Less applicable here, but every conversation you have with a potential employer is an interview. I knocked on my current boss's door to schedule an interview, and by the end of the conversation I had a job.

Basically, just try and be professional. If he brings up the phone call, apologize, but don't try and explain it. Just say that you're sorry for how you behaved. If you've been professional throughout the interview, you'll already have been countering your first impression.

Magus · 06-09-2011, 01:58 PM

When I worked McDonald's I had to take a bath everyday even if I didn't want to (I like to take a shower everyday anyway, we can't all be cool dudes like Smarty), because the hot grease from the grill flying up builds up a thick layer of grime on your face, especially in combination with the heat/sweat (it was unfortunate I wore glasses, too, between the steam and the grease I was half-blind wandering around back there). Also I recommend having someone teach you some of the tricks of the trade, for instance, if you try to peel frozen burgers apart your fingernails are going to hurt like a bitch. You bang the side of the stack on the grill to get them apart. Wear comfortable uniform sneakers/shoes, since you'll be on your feet for 10 hours and if you're wearing bad shoes your feet are going to be killing you. If you're not willing to work overtime you're out of luck, you will have to work overtime because the other kinds of people who sign up to work at fast food restaurants are assholes who skip work. The sneakers will have to have those super-non-slip soles on them, you can get a cheap pair of Dr. Scholls at Wal-Mart usually, or you can order a pair out of the restaurant's catalog, but you'll have to have a pair day one, so...I recommend ordering a pair even if you buy the Wal-Mart ones because like I said you'll want something as comfortable as possible.

When building the sandwiches you'll learn that you have to put the toppings on in a particular order, not only because the build line resembles an assembly line of two to three people but because fast food restaurants basically researched that people have to have the pickles on last (for example) in order to achieve full satisfaction. I'm not even kidding.

Also as common courtesy if you're working a burger place that has greasy-as-hell burgers (McDonald's, for instance), the burgers basically sit in a quarter-inch of grease in the heating bin, before slamming them on the bun I always shook them off with the tongs. This is because back when I used to eat at McDonalds (obviously after working there I realized that tiny 1/10 patties smothered in grease is not something that should be going into my body), not only did I hate the grease but I even ruined a nice shirt one time because I kid you not there was a cup's worth of that shit just sort of floating around in it.

Finally, if your manager is screaming about how long you're taking, just ignore them (if you want to keep the job, the one I worked at had literally a dozen other fast-food places right next to it, if I got pissed at a manager enough I usually quit and just went next door, it's not like there is a pay drop or something in a minimum-wage job). I worked my ass off and orders were flying out like crazy, and I was working by myself a lot of the time because like I said your coworkers are going to be lazy assholes. The lady still yelled about how long each order was taking. So don't sweat it, they aren't going to fire you because then they'd have to come back there and do stuff (which they will do once in a while during rush hour, lunch and dinner, sometimes, or a big order, but it is quite rare). If they yell at you at break time/closing time for washing your hands and taking your apron off before clocking out, just ignore them. There's no reason to lose 5-7 minutes off of your 30 minute break just so a business that makes hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars a year (and I guarantee you any McDonald's franchise is making a crap ton of money for any area it is in) doesn't have to pay you for those five minutes which you've earned.

You won't have a choice of hours and they will often work you seven days in a row (I believe this is the maximum they are allowed to give you before they have to give you two days off according to company policy), so you will just have to get used to getting home at 11-12 often and being there next morning at 6.

The SSB Intern · 06-09-2011, 06:22 PM

Didn't get the job. The fact that I'm moving out of town is not good, it would seem. But apparently, the guy's family owns a burger king where I'm moving to and he says he might be able to hook me up. Not a total loss, I suppose. Thanks for your help, guys.

06-09-2011, 01:35 AM	#13
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	Protip I totally lost the link discussing the study that proved it, but if you maintain eye contact flawlessly you're an egocentric old fossile, while those who are open to new ideas are more likely to look at what the person they're talking to looks at. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed

06-09-2011, 02:31 AM	#15
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Smelly doesn't equal bad hygiene guys. Your lizard brain is tricking you. And when your prospective employer wrinkles his nose tell him this as well. He will thank you for it. The trap question is always what are you weakness. Some employers want you to list weaknesses that are secretely strength. Some employers will think you are being a shit and not answering the question if you do this and want an honest answer. Most people I've seen recommend going the first route, I've always found the second route better in my experience. But make the judgement as you go. Last edited by Professor Smarmiarty; 06-09-2011 at 02:33 AM.

06-09-2011, 10:09 AM	#16
Ryanderman Beard of Leadership Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 827	I've always found that listing real weaknesses, but explifying strength by describing how I overcome them generally works well. __________________ ~Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to stop, it turns. You tell it to turn, it stops. You tell it to take out the trash, it watches reruns of Firefly.~

06-09-2011, 11:23 AM	#17
Eltargrim Fifty-Talents Haversham Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: FABULOUS Posts: 1,904	Less applicable here, but every conversation you have with a potential employer is an interview. I knocked on my current boss's door to schedule an interview, and by the end of the conversation I had a job. Basically, just try and be professional. If he brings up the phone call, apologize, but don't try and explain it. Just say that you're sorry for how you behaved. If you've been professional throughout the interview, you'll already have been countering your first impression. __________________ <Insert witticism here; get credit; ???; profit!>

06-09-2011, 01:58 PM	#18
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	When I worked McDonald's I had to take a bath everyday even if I didn't want to (I like to take a shower everyday anyway, we can't all be cool dudes like Smarty), because the hot grease from the grill flying up builds up a thick layer of grime on your face, especially in combination with the heat/sweat (it was unfortunate I wore glasses, too, between the steam and the grease I was half-blind wandering around back there). Also I recommend having someone teach you some of the tricks of the trade, for instance, if you try to peel frozen burgers apart your fingernails are going to hurt like a bitch. You bang the side of the stack on the grill to get them apart. Wear comfortable uniform sneakers/shoes, since you'll be on your feet for 10 hours and if you're wearing bad shoes your feet are going to be killing you. If you're not willing to work overtime you're out of luck, you will have to work overtime because the other kinds of people who sign up to work at fast food restaurants are assholes who skip work. The sneakers will have to have those super-non-slip soles on them, you can get a cheap pair of Dr. Scholls at Wal-Mart usually, or you can order a pair out of the restaurant's catalog, but you'll have to have a pair day one, so...I recommend ordering a pair even if you buy the Wal-Mart ones because like I said you'll want something as comfortable as possible. When building the sandwiches you'll learn that you have to put the toppings on in a particular order, not only because the build line resembles an assembly line of two to three people but because fast food restaurants basically researched that people have to have the pickles on last (for example) in order to achieve full satisfaction. I'm not even kidding. Also as common courtesy if you're working a burger place that has greasy-as-hell burgers (McDonald's, for instance), the burgers basically sit in a quarter-inch of grease in the heating bin, before slamming them on the bun I always shook them off with the tongs. This is because back when I used to eat at McDonalds (obviously after working there I realized that tiny 1/10 patties smothered in grease is not something that should be going into my body), not only did I hate the grease but I even ruined a nice shirt one time because I kid you not there was a cup's worth of that shit just sort of floating around in it. Finally, if your manager is screaming about how long you're taking, just ignore them (if you want to keep the job, the one I worked at had literally a dozen other fast-food places right next to it, if I got pissed at a manager enough I usually quit and just went next door, it's not like there is a pay drop or something in a minimum-wage job). I worked my ass off and orders were flying out like crazy, and I was working by myself a lot of the time because like I said your coworkers are going to be lazy assholes. The lady still yelled about how long each order was taking. So don't sweat it, they aren't going to fire you because then they'd have to come back there and do stuff (which they will do once in a while during rush hour, lunch and dinner, sometimes, or a big order, but it is quite rare). If they yell at you at break time/closing time for washing your hands and taking your apron off before clocking out, just ignore them. There's no reason to lose 5-7 minutes off of your 30 minute break just so a business that makes hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars a year (and I guarantee you any McDonald's franchise is making a crap ton of money for any area it is in) doesn't have to pay you for those five minutes which you've earned. You won't have a choice of hours and they will often work you seven days in a row (I believe this is the maximum they are allowed to give you before they have to give you two days off according to company policy), so you will just have to get used to getting home at 11-12 often and being there next morning at 6. __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 06-09-2011 at 02:03 PM.

06-09-2011, 06:22 PM	#19
The SSB Intern We'll have to do this the hard way. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Behind it all. Posts: 1,009	Didn't get the job. The fact that I'm moving out of town is not good, it would seem. But apparently, the guy's family owns a burger king where I'm moving to and he says he might be able to hook me up. Not a total loss, I suppose. Thanks for your help, guys. __________________ You know who never sleeps? My gun.