Homestuck Mafia Thread - Page 26

rpgdemon · 08-15-2011, 12:28 PM

Could ask P-Sleazy to post his role.

***Fenris*** · 08-15-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Could ask P-Sleazy to post his role.

That could work, if he's willing.

Solid Snake · 08-15-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Are we allowed to PM eachother about this? Since you could ask P-Sleazy to PM you his role, as a test.

No PMs, guys.
Everyone playing gets to see whatever arguments or information is divulged, right here.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 08-15-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenris

That could work, if he's willing.

Which of course he probably won't be. If he's any important role for us he becomes a target immediately. If we ask that of him with the stipulation that he be lynched otherwise we might be forcing him into a lose-lose situation.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 08-15-2011, 01:36 PM

Also the Two times for two actions thing leads me to believe Fenris is Sollux, while it wouldn't be surprising for there to be something else to it, there's nothing in the story as far as I know to indicate that Sollux's powers only work half the time.

rpgdemon · 08-15-2011, 01:39 PM

It's also worth mentioning that this lynching deserves extra thought, not just because it involves me, but because after today, the town will be mob-run if we don't hit the right person. If a townie dies today during the lynch, and the mob kills someone during the night, there will be eight people left.

If the mob are the Midnight Crew (Hegemonious Brute is a member of a gang called the Midnight Crew, in Homestuck), there are four scum, and they'll have the majority vote, at which point it will be impossible for them to lose.

I have a theory, thinking on this stuff. A bandwagon of votes (Which has happened each and every time someone pointed a finger with a modicum of evidence) can just be the entirety of the mob jumping on and killing townies, instead of doing night kills, in order to make it seem as if they're inactive. The only time the bandwagon hasn't happened was against P-Sleazy, as far as I can remember. There may be a few more people who had evidence given against them who weren't bandwagonned, as well, and I'd suggest looking through the archives and seeing who hasn't been bandwagonned, after evidence has been brought up against them. I'd bet you get scum out of them. I'd do it myself, but since I'm already being disputed, anything that I do will be disputed as trying to throw people under the bus, and after I get lynched, it'll be too late for you to believe me, unless the guy who's been kidnapped comes back. So if you all do it independently, and come up with the same people to point at, it'll be more conclusive and better.

But since this has come down to between me and P-Sleazy (Maybe? Or maybe Snake was rolling on whether or not to tell the truth), I'm gonna point out that he definitely falls under the suspicions of that theory.

rpgdemon · 08-15-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Karesh

Which of course he probably won't be. If he's any important role for us he becomes a target immediately. If we ask that of him with the stipulation that he be lynched otherwise we might be forcing him into a lose-lose situation.

You've already put me into that situation. And I'm the one that you actually ought to trust.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 08-15-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

You've already put me into that situation. And I'm the one that you actually ought to trust.

You put yourself into that situation and whats more you're not in that situation in the first place because according to your own words you can't be killed save justly or heroically. Which means either lynching or I'd guess dying while performing some other action.

As a tactic the very idea that the Mafia would forgo their kills for the sake of an extremely long and risky maneuver seems laughable at best. You're right about one and only one thing and that's that the mafia is incredibly close to victory at this point, but that being the case if they'd dropped this plan you propose they have last night they would already have that precious majority.

rpgdemon · 08-15-2011, 02:01 PM

They'd be one off of a majority today, and suddenly no longer would look inactive, which could give away their ruse a day before they have a guaranteed majority.

The whole ruse relies on us searching for the inactive scum, while they're being active and bandwagonning right under our noses. Once their action will secure a majority though, it becomes safe for them to act.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 08-15-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

They'd be one off of a majority today, and suddenly no longer would look inactive, which could give away their ruse a day before they have a guaranteed majority.

The whole ruse relies on us searching for the inactive scum, while they're being active and bandwagonning right under our noses. Once their action will secure a majority though, it becomes safe for them to act.

I mean that they would be able to gain it today, and extremely easily too. Unless the town in its entirety wised up and voted accurately at a single mafiate, which isn't likely at all.

08-15-2011, 12:28 PM	#251
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Could ask P-Sleazy to post his role. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

08-15-2011, 01:39 PM	#256
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	It's also worth mentioning that this lynching deserves extra thought, not just because it involves me, but because after today, the town will be mob-run if we don't hit the right person. If a townie dies today during the lynch, and the mob kills someone during the night, there will be eight people left. If the mob are the Midnight Crew (Hegemonious Brute is a member of a gang called the Midnight Crew, in Homestuck), there are four scum, and they'll have the majority vote, at which point it will be impossible for them to lose. I have a theory, thinking on this stuff. A bandwagon of votes (Which has happened each and every time someone pointed a finger with a modicum of evidence) can just be the entirety of the mob jumping on and killing townies, instead of doing night kills, in order to make it seem as if they're inactive. The only time the bandwagon hasn't happened was against P-Sleazy, as far as I can remember. There may be a few more people who had evidence given against them who weren't bandwagonned, as well, and I'd suggest looking through the archives and seeing who hasn't been bandwagonned, after evidence has been brought up against them. I'd bet you get scum out of them. I'd do it myself, but since I'm already being disputed, anything that I do will be disputed as trying to throw people under the bus, and after I get lynched, it'll be too late for you to believe me, unless the guy who's been kidnapped comes back. So if you all do it independently, and come up with the same people to point at, it'll be more conclusive and better. But since this has come down to between me and P-Sleazy (Maybe? Or maybe Snake was rolling on whether or not to tell the truth), I'm gonna point out that he definitely falls under the suspicions of that theory. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

08-15-2011, 02:01 PM	#259
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	They'd be one off of a majority today, and suddenly no longer would look inactive, which could give away their ruse a day before they have a guaranteed majority. The whole ruse relies on us searching for the inactive scum, while they're being active and bandwagonning right under our noses. Once their action will secure a majority though, it becomes safe for them to act. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.