Homestuck Mafia Thread

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

So, pretty much I was entirely right, and you all disbelieved me?

SUPER VINDICATION.

Really though the only Townies you could possibly feel vindication from are Aldurin and Moogle. And, uhh...yourself?
You and scum comprised the majority on your lynch. You can't feel vindicated against scum for doing the smart thing and pressuring you into breaking.

Had you resisted, Smarty would've had more time to connect the dots and realize that Fenris couldn't be Inventor given the Invention he received. Who knows what Bookie might have thought. Even Aldurin might eventually have been easily persuaded off you had you resisted given he'd have the Bard lynch as a substitute, and Bard would've looked fishier (and Fenris / P-Sleazy would have looked fishier by association) the longer Bard's vote was on you.
No reason to have given up, is my point.
(There were other chinks in Scum's plan too, like Fenris claiming RPG claimed John Egbert off a safelist, and then P-Sleazy contradicting that by suggesting that his own role became powerful once John Egbert died, therefore John Egbert could not have been on a safelist.)

Also I did err in stating Smarty had multiple nights to use his Invention, that was my bad, it's just been a while since I've been intimately familiar with the way the Inventor worked since he's been dead a while. But even still, Smarty, you totally should have been curious as to why the 'Gift' you received did not in any way match Fenris' description of his Inventor powers.

[rpgdemon]

Yeah, but I like having been completely right about them ruling via lynches and stuff and then getting their majority.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by Fenris

Y'all were right about Bard and P-Sleazy, but your reasons were fucking stupid.

Also, really, RPG? Your idea is my machines are broken and not that I'm lying out my ass?

One of my favorite things was that the only vote I made all game was on rpg at the end. I was running a challenge to myself to not vote for anybody until I could force a win. Lumenskir has been inactive since the 2nd, but it turns out we didn't need him.

I think the cherry on top for me is that rpg killed himself, and the town.

Good game y'all, I had tons of fun.

As time went on, I was swaying more and more towards you lying (As evidenced by putting you as a guy to kill if I die and the town doesn't instalose), but it really wouldn't have done anything, since I was outnumbered like crazy.

Though, I totally would have pinned Aldurin as scum, based on the way he was playing that only really helped scum.

My list was:
P-Sleazy
Aldurin
Bard
Fenris

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Also I did err in stating Smarty had multiple nights to use his Invention, that was my bad, it's just been a while since I've been intimately familiar with the way the Inventor worked since he's been dead a while. But even still, Smarty, you totally should have been curious as to why the 'Gift' you received did not in any way match Fenris' description of his Inventor powers.

Cause I was inactive for ages and only skimmed everyone's post! The lynch came too soon. Dudes should have given me more time to get back into it.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Cause I was inactive for ages and only skimmed everyone's post! The lynch came too soon. Dudes should have given me more time to get back into it.

Now we couldn't have that, could we?

[Mr.Bookworm]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Courtyard Droll,[/COLOR] Godfather.

In addition, the Postman's role was to deliver 'Mail' and, in doing so, essentially become Confirmable and avoid lynches by giving 'Mail' to as many Townies as possible, who'd then back his story the moment he claimed. PM (in Homestuck) is clearly a pro-town role, after all. But Mr. Bookman didn't even deliver Mail at all one 'night', and he delivered mail to P-Sleazy twice in a row. While the Postman Role also enabled the Postman to see whether the visited person 'got up' and took action at Night, this wouldn't be distinguishable as to whether it meant the person was Town Power or Scum; it's great for catching lying Scum who claim 'Nillas in the endgame, but earlier on, the primary use of the Postman role was to become confirmable and effectively unlynchable by sending out as many letters to as many Townies as possible.

I completely and totally fucked up twice, but what the hell is the rest of this about being confirmable? I could only see if someone went out, and that obviously didn't even work all of the time, because I never caught B_real .

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm

I completely and totally fucked up twice, but what the hell is the rest of this about being confirmable? I could only see if someone went out, and that obviously didn't even work all of the time, because I never caught B_real .

You send the mail to Person X night 1, Person Y night 2, and Person Z night 3.

Let's say you then attract attention during D4 as a possible lynch candidate. Two of the people you sent mail to are still alive.

You claim. "I'm the postman. I sent mail to Person X night 1, Person Y night 2 (but Person Y is now dead, bummer) and Person Z night 3."

At least one -- if not both -- of the two people you sent messages to who are still alive is statistically very likely to be town. And given that scum is pretending to be town, even if you really screw up and both are scum they're going to immediately look suspicious if he doubts your testimony and then you are lynched and you flip TOWN Postman. Therefore, everyone has an incentive to buy your claim, that you are in fact TOWN-aligned, as it's very unlikely a Mafia host ever creates a similar role and assigns it to scum. I've never seen anything like that, personally.

Even if people don't believe you, the smart play -- and I know Town in this game was somewhat immunized from intelligent choices regarding forcing claims and responding to them, but still -- is to say "Okay, if you really are Town, I'll give you one night to prove it. Send me mail. If I receive it, I'll believe you." (In this game the roleblocker might take advantage of that, but even if the gambit fails, it's always nice to get the RB blocking roles that aren't as useful as Cop or Doc.) Again, the idea here is that Town should almost never lynch a claimed Power role who claims to have a confirmable power. Just as Town should almost never lynch a claimed Cop or Doc unless the Cop or Doc is countered, and similarly should never lynch a claimed Vig under the assumption that if he's not a Vig, the real Vig would either A) counter the claim if he was out of shots or B) stay silent and simply shoot the impostor if he still has a shot to take.