Mafia Time!

[Gregness]

Originally Posted by Gregness

If that's the way your watcher role works then I'll concede the point, but it should be noted that that's not the way watcher roles typically work.

By that I mean that everyone else should note that if we start runnnig out of leads again.

Also, you're right the lynch isn't going to do anything to me, but that makes it little better than a no-lynch which is basically the last thing we should want to do. The only reason I don't think it's exactly equivalent to a no-lynch is that hopefully that would finally be enough evidence for you guys to believe me. 'Course, if Kerensky then takes it upon himself to kill me during the night then A) confirming me as town is all for nothing and B) Kerensky will then be 0-3 for Vig kills.

[Moogle0119]

Well if you're unsure about the PO ability being accurate I would suggest we go for Ryanderman then. I still disagree that Bookie showing up as mafia would make me likely to be scum too (since I've insisted already that it just means there's 1 more mafiate and I've already stated who else is on the list). If you really have to I would say hold off on killing me until the next day when I have a chance to watch someone else and give more information to you. I only watched Bookie because I thought Kerensky was going to follow Nikose's plan, instead of.....killing him off. But somehow that makes me suspicious....

[Kerensky287]

Yeah, sorry about the loose-cannon lynch on Nikose.

I feel like I should have mentioned WHY I was suspicious of him - his method of flipping a coin to decide who to lynch is scummy as fuck, for example - but... eh. I didn't want to give him any warning, and it was sort of a spur-of-the-moment thing.

There's no indication whatsoever that the PO action is a mistell. That was my first instinct because if we assume Ryanderman is the only remaining mafiate, all the pieces fall into place. But the easiest, most simple solution is NOT always the correct one, so I feel we should treat him as town for now.

Someone just said POs tend to reveal mafia dons as town - is that typical? Because I've never seen that happen, and it doesn't make sense to me for that to happen. If that's usual for dons, then we COULD just assume that's what's happening and lynch Ryanderman, but I feel like we can scratch him off the list of suspects for now.

Basically, it boils down to RPGdemon, Aldurin, Moogle and Bookworm right now. If there's a cult, as Lawful suggested, then... fuck, we're back to square one. But if we're operating under the assumption that it's just mafia left, I say we go for either Moogle or Bookworm.

If there's a cult, of course, you have no reason to believe anything that I'm saying. They'd have gone for me night 1, kept me pushing to take down the mafia (leaving the cult with a monopoly on night-elimination actions), and it would have explained my weird gung-ho callouts and nightkills. I want to say that a confirmed miller would be great for cult (meaning I wouldn't have killed Nikose!) but I didn't really have a good reason for taking down Nikose anyway, other than a strong suspicion that he was just going really far to prove his innocence. So I fucked up there.

Of course if he had flipped Mafia then I would've gloated like crazy, but it was just a hunch and it cost me and the town a lot.


TL;DR: Vote for me if you think there's a cult. I'm the most likely night 1 target for them, and when I flip town, you'll see that all you have to fear is mafia and/or serial killer. Otherwise, vote for Moogle or Bookworm, our two most likely suspects at the moment.

[Moogle0119]

I don't believe there is a cult. If there's only one mediate left then you are making the wrong decision (again) by voting me or Bookie off.

In fact, worse case scenario (assuming there isn't a cult) is that there are 2 mafiates remaining and we should operate under that logic for now. If we target either Aldurin or rpg it will confirm the other either way. If you vote me you will see that I'm a watcher and that won't give you any real info about Bookie (other than he still didn't kill anyone on N2). Killing Bookie, Ryanderman, or Greg will still leave one of the other three (four if you include me) that could where the remaining magistrate are. I say we vote either Aldrin or rpg for today.

[Moogle0119]

Edit: magistrate = mafiates, I hate the autocorrect on my phone.

[Kerensky287]

Yeah, sorry dude, but there isn't a whole lot of reason to vote for anybody who ISN'T you right now.

Vote: Moogle

[Aldurin]

*sigh*

Hey rpg, should we just let them see our communications so that they know for sure that we are masoned with gem and thus town? Like just link to it?

And now that I think about it.

Unvote: Bookworm

Vote: Moogle

He pushing really hard for lynches, and his roleclaim is convenient in the way that it is extremely difficult to verify. And his recent arguments feel more antagonistic than helpful toward town.

[Moogle0119]

Gonna keep that record going Kerensky, really?

[Kerensky287]

You mean our record of lynching a mafiate per night?

Fuck yeah.

[Moogle0119]

Kerensky you're seriously misguided this game. If this lynch goes through you should SERIOUSLY consider targeting Aldurin or rpgdemon tonight with one of your kills since you won't listen to logic anymore. Maybe you'll listen to me once I turn up town though? Or maybe not.