OH GOD BIOWARE WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Any resource gathering or the like?

Not that I could tell. Obviously there wasn't any flying around space in the Normandy in the demo, but I also wasn't examining things in the level and getting 500 plutonium or whatever, so they've probably cut that.

[Azisien]

Originally Posted by Melfice

EDIT: I see what you're saying. Well, it'd be kinda sucky to buy a game, and find out that, unless you got all the other games as well, you're starting off completely shit.

I mean, missing out on some characters won't hurt you, but I can imagine missing out on Wrex means strained relations with Tuchanka, meaning no space turtles to back us up.

No way! The save import system is literally the coolest thing a story-driven game has done since....probably the 90's when some games did it. I'll take that plus JERKHEADS that didn't play the first two games like JERKHEADS have shitty starting options any day over some open option of "start the game however you like by filling out this Excel spreadsheet!"

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Azisien

No way! The save import system is literally the coolest thing a story-driven game has done since....probably the 90's when some games did it. I'll take that plus JERKHEADS that didn't play the first two games like JERKHEADS have shitty starting options any day over some open option of "start the game however you like by filling out this Excel spreadsheet!"

What about the people who made the totally understandable mistake of buying a sequel on another system?

[Marc v4.0]

How is that a mistake?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

How is that a mistake?

Because for ME2 at least the new game options suuuuuuucked

[Marc v4.0]

How is buying a game on a different system a mistake, and an understandable one at that?

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

How is buying a game on a different system a mistake, and an understandable one at that?

Not sure what's so confusing about this.
I bought the Xbox version for ME1, and then the PC version for ME2. It was a mistake because at the time I didn't realize how terrible the starting options would be without a save file.

Eventually I got a save file from a site hosting copies, but none of them were exactly like my game had been.

[Ramary]

I think (THINK) the point Karesh is trying to make is...

Bioware is stupid for advertising Mass Effect 3 as "Great time to jump into the franchise" when the starting options seem to be so terrible for people who didn't play the games before, or in his case on another system/ lost the save file in some way. That alone acts as a barrier for entry.

And also that statement alone being pants-on-head retarded, who would start watching Back to the Future at part 3?

[Melfice]

Originally Posted by Ramary

And also that statement alone being pants-on-head retarded, who would start watching Back to the Future at part 3?

A person who could not find parts one and two anywhere within reasonable effort.
But they'd have to really desperate (also: have a very narrow definition of "reasonable effort") to not be able to wait for a day or two for shipping from that webstore.

[EVILNess]

I kinda figured the starting settings would be shitty, that's why i opted out of the PS3 release of ME2.

I figured I would just wait until I got a better computer and bought them on Steam.

Oh, horrible thought! It would incredibly spiteful of EA to make the saves from Steam copies of ME not compatible.

And sadly, I can see them doing that. (I don't think they will, its dumb business sense)