OH GOD BIOWARE WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Are we sure that the Earth Under Attack -bit is in the beginning?

Well if it's not that would remove a large part of my problems... but Anderson quite specifically tells Shepard to get off earth and gather the allies. So I don't really understand how that could be any other way unless they trick the reapers and have all the citadel race fleets about to jump in just after the reapers hit earth. again thats not really the way it was portrayed in the scene with Anderson though.

[Ramary]

Actually here is a question.

Why the hell are the reapers attacking Earth first anyway? I would imagine the Citadel would be target one cause the Reapers always made it target one in the other cycles, that is what the thing is designed for.

Or is this, once again, a case on how "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL".

[Melfice]

Originally Posted by Ramary

Actually here is a question.

Why the hell are the reapers attacking Earth first anyway? I would imagine the Citadel would be target one cause the Reapers always made it target one in the other cycles, that is what the thing is designed for.

Or is this, once again, a case on how "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL".

I think that this is mostly a case on "Holy shit. Humans killed our 'baby'. Fucking bastards. They're a threat. Also, revenge.".

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Sifright

Cerberus attacking you is also fucking insanity unless the illusive man happens to be a reaper, because HEY EARTH IS UNDER ATTACK you dipshit! Also second mission in the demo why the fuck didn't they just nuke their target "Lets send in ground troops when we could blow the target to shit with orbital weaponry" Eurghhh....

The Illusive Man being against Shepard might make sense, if, like Saren he was tricked into believing it was the only way to save Humanity. But that would require a total fucking 180 on his estimations of our chances, since he actively believed preparing to fight the Reapers was the best thing Humanity could do in 2.

besides which, he is aware of what the Reapers were doing with those colonists. He has every reason imaginable to not want the Reapers to win, and from what we see he's never directly exposed himself to any experiment that might have infected individual cells of his operation. In fact, Cerebus seems uniquely prepared to deal with the bullshit Reaper tech can pull because no one cell could infect another. They were all operating independently from what I remember.

So, yeah. He picked up the idiot ball in one way or another. Then figuratively bashed his own face in with it I suppose.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Ramary

It is not because of the African accent specifically, I think this would be still be stupid to me if it was a British accent. I think it is stupid that he HAS an accent at all.

There's no such thing as not having an accent, unless you're a mute. Not even such a thing as having a neutral accent. People just tend to assume that the way that they talk is 'normal'. It's not. It's just normal for you.

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

I was sort of surprised that the Reapers are stomping around up close and personal though. Why wouldn't they just float up high where literally nothing can hit them?

It was clearly specified in ME2 that the Reaper goal is to take every human off of earth and make a human reaper or two. Just because you blew up their embryo that doesn't mean they aren't still trying to do that, and orbital bombardment would make it pretty hard to get a bunch of living humans to liquify and turn into a horrible space monster.

Edit: Also probably why it takes long enough for the game to progress. It takes time to round up living victims. Much more time than it takes to murder a planet. And even murdering a planet was shown to take them a good while when you look at the stuff Virgil told you on Ilos.

[Ramary]

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

The Illusive Man being against Shepard might make sense, if, like Saren he was tricked into believing it was the only way to save Humanity. But that would require a total fucking 180 on his estimations of our chances, since he actively believed preparing to fight the Reapers was the best thing Humanity could do in 2.

besides which, he is aware of what the Reapers were doing with those colonists. He has every reason imaginable to not want the Reapers to win, and from what we see he's never directly exposed himself to any experiment that might have infected individual cells of his operation. In fact, Cerebus seems uniquely prepared to deal with the bullshit Reaper tech can pull because no one cell could infect another. They were all operating independently from what I remember.

So, yeah. He picked up the idiot ball in one way or another. Then figuratively bashed his own face in with it I suppose.

REAPER INDOCTRINATION: We don't need motives for him becoming evil, he just is now!

And everyone else in Cerberus too.
And the people funding them.
God this is stupid, I hope my indoctrination guess is wrong.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Krylo

There's no such thing as not having an accent, unless you're a mute. Not even such a thing as having a neutral accent. People just tend to assume that the way that they talk is 'normal'. It's not. It's just normal for you.

It was clearly specified in ME2 that the Reaper goal is to take every human off of earth and make a human reaper or two. Just because you blew up their embryo that doesn't mean they aren't still trying to do that, and orbital bombardment would make it pretty hard to get a bunch of living humans to liquify and turn into a horrible space monster.

Then... why are they blasting craft filled with ripe, pretty keen specimens that aren't armed?
Or rather, through the collectors we see that they're capable of forcing an entire colony to go into stasis mode. Why are they blasting everything in sight, rather than doing that?

Especially when you consider the unarmed transports that they blasted in the middle of a fight. Did they decide making Shepard look sorrowful and contemplative at the death of a young lad he'd met was worth the specimens they were vaporizing?

[Marc v4.0]

Since he is the boss, you would only have to brain-wash him.

If the leaked ending I heard about has any truth to it at all, I know exactly why TIM would be trying to stop Shepard.

[Krylo]

Also: The reason they wouldn't go after the Citadel first? It no longer works for them the way it did in the other invasions. In ME1 you uploaded the overload code. The Reapers can no longer use it to shut down all the mass relays like they could in previous invasions. There's no real reason for them to hit it first now.

The two best strategic targets for a first strike now are the humans and turians because turians have the strongest fleet and humans have the second strongest fleet, and well they want as many humans alive as possible so starting there before they get murdered in the war is probably not a bad plan.

[Osterbaum]

It could be The Illusive Man holds a personal grudge with Shepard. Which makes less sense though if your Shepard didn't destroy the Collector station.

e: I think Citadel still makes sense as a target because of the Council and all the embassies. Galactic central goverment is a pretty good target. Though I agree that The Citadel would no longer be as high a priority as in other cases before.