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Unread 05-28-2012, 05:10 PM   #1
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Man, like, I guess I get what you're saying? ...Maybe?
But for the sake of every oppressed minority suffering under institutional privilege here in these forums I sincerely hope we are passionate about oppressed minorities to the point of unreasonableness.

Like, buried deep within Liz's rage was actually a decent point about the motivations of many of the Draw Mohammed Day participants that, in fact, gave Liz a pretty good reason to be angry.

Ultimately, Liz took out that anger on the wrong people, I guess? Or Liz may have insinuated some of you were racists or defending racism and that was the impression you got and shit went downhill from there?

But yeah, I'll stick with Liz's perspective on the substance -- and even the outrage stemming from that substance -- even if Liz could benefit from better controlling and channeling that outrage towards the individuals truly meriting scorn.
But let's not say that being over-defensive of minorities is a bad thing and have that be the lesson learned.
Actually, the problem isn't that liz gets outraged over people being racist thats perfectly reasonable. It's that Liz gets that way in every god damn argument she has.
This is a pretty big dead horse to bring up but it's also a perfect example.

Mass effect 3.

in the chat, Liz made a remark about how she found it funny people were complaining about ME 3 being shit. I pointed out that it was unfair given the marketing campaign explicitly stating things contrary to what went down.

Liz brings up a point about their motivations. I point out it contradicts what she said in the ME3 thread. She goes absolutely berserk, telling people to fuck off and go kill them selves and that they should go slit their own throats, She didn't even get punished for that incident point is that kind of attitude is prevalent in almost any argument where liz ends up getting heated.

Next day Liz posts the thread telling people not to tell her what her opinion is.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 05:11 PM   #2
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in the chat, Liz made a remark about how she found it funny people were complaining about ME 3 being shit. I pointed out that it was unfair given the marketing campaign explicitly stating things contrary to what went down.

Liz brings up a point about their motivations. I point out it contradicts what she said in the ME3 thread. She goes absolutely berserk, telling people to fuck off and go kill them selves, She didn't even get punished for that incident point is that kind of attitude is prevalent in almost any argument where liz ends up getting heated.
...huh?
I literally can't follow that story.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 05:16 PM   #3
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...huh?
I literally can't follow that story.
During an argument about something to do with Mass Effect 3, Liz said something that contradicted what she'd said in the thread about that game.
He linked this post and said her statements were contradictory.

The argument continued, Liz was increasingly upset about Sifright pointing this out, claiming that he was telling her what her opinion was when to my recollection he just wanted to know if her opinion had changed.
I and someone else were there, telling her to calm down. She told me, Sif and that third person to kill ourselves. To slit our throats.

I'm missing a lot of details but up until that point and beyond that point nobody but Liz was saying anything like that.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 05:18 PM   #4
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The argument continued, Liz was increasingly upset about Sifright pointing this out, claiming that he was telling her what her opinion was when to my recollection he just wanted to know if her opinion had changed.
I and someone else were there, telling her to calm down. She told me, Sif and that third person to kill ourselves. To slit our throats.
...If that story is true (I am desperately trying to give Liz some innocent-until-proven-guilty style benefit of the doubt), I'm absolutely shocked Liz wasn't banned over that.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #5
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...If that story is true (I am desperately trying to give Liz some innocent-until-proven-guilty style benefit of the doubt), I'm absolutely shocked Liz wasn't banned over that.
It did result in this thread if you're interested in the fallout.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 10:36 PM   #6
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The argument continued, Liz was increasingly upset about Sifright pointing this out, claiming that he was telling her what her opinion was when to my recollection he just wanted to know if her opinion had changed.
I and someone else were there, telling her to calm down. She told me, Sif and that third person to kill ourselves. To slit our throats.

I'm missing a lot of details but up until that point and beyond that point nobody but Liz was saying anything like that.
Bit late to the party here, but yeah. That's when the fecal matter hit the rotating oscillating device. I was that third person and if I recall correctly it was primarily aimed at me. I jumped in at the right/wrong time. Among being called a storm of profanities that I can't exactly recall verbatim..but yeah they were quite excessive. I chocked it up to Liz being Liz and just desserts have a way of being delivered so's I carried on my usual bwizniss and got outta that mess.

Flipping a hundred shits and telling one, two, or three people to kill themselves for having different opinions about the five hundred-thousand things that pisses Liz off is beyond toe'n the line. Shouldn't have ever gotten to eight, or whatever the number is, temporary slaps on the wrist. Always been a fan of three. But that's just me. Not tellin folk how to do their job and all. Healthy happy discussion.

It really comes down to if one can't avoid pissing in another person's sandbox it's time find somewhere else to play.
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