"Would You Murder Someone Who Molested Your Kid?" or "Should This Father Be Jailed?"

Seil · 08-30-2013, 12:56 PM

Obviously, vigilante justice is illegal - A Time To Kill (should've) proved that. But I think you'd be hard pressed not to find a sympathetic jury.

Bells · 08-30-2013, 01:35 PM

You can be as Sumpathetic as you want, it still doesn't make it right.

You can even go and say that the guy deserved, and i think you would be hard pressed to find someone to disagree with you on that... but killing him still isn't right.

Not that in the middle of fury base bloodlust i would ever expect a father in that situation to know when he gave a punch too many, i wouldn't say he set out to simply murder someone by punches. But, he did it.

To be honest... death is the easy way out. Yeah, one less creep out there. One more leech taking cash to survive until he dies in a concrete hole by himself, alone and isolated... but murdering him only gave him a few minutes of pain followed by absolutely nothing because he is fucking dead. Then what? You didn't undo what he did. You may have stopped him from ever doing it again, but jail can accomplish that too... even therapy in some cases... just tossing people in a jail system full of cracks and creases is not going to do a whole lot of good either...

Still doesn't make cold (or hot) blooded murder ok though...

Flarecobra · 08-30-2013, 02:09 PM

Put him in prison. Let him be the prison bitch.

Grandmaster_Skweeb · 08-30-2013, 04:31 PM

not that I will have kids, but if I did and someone bad touched: would crush the bonangles out of them. permanent type harm.

if they did more than the bad touch..yeah, I'd hunt the fucker down.

Seil · 08-30-2013, 04:52 PM

RobinStarwing · 08-30-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster_Skweeb

not that I will have kids, but if I did and someone bad touched: would crush the bonangles out of them. permanent type harm.

if they did more than the bad touch..yeah, I'd hunt the fucker down.

"Molester? What Molester? I don't know of any one molesting my kid."

And they would never find the scumbag ever....

Flarecobra · 08-30-2013, 07:56 PM

By the way. Rusty cheese grater... and said molester's junk.

I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

Azisien · 08-30-2013, 10:52 PM

If I caught them in the moment, yes I would.

If I found out about it after the fact, I would think dearly about it, and probably plan it, but you know, I would probably lose my entire life (my job, access to my kids I'm avenging) if I botched the assassination, and that wouldn't make it worth it. So probably no.

Bells · 08-30-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flarecobra

By the way. Rusty cheese grater... and said molester's junk.

I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

Or you could just watch the movie Hard Candy. It does the thinking for you pretty much.

Amake · 08-31-2013, 05:11 AM

The definition of murder is wrongful killing so no, that's probably not something you should do. In the heat of the moment, yes, it would certainly be understandable. But if you're going to kill someone on purpose, with forethought, you need to be sure that a) there's no other way to deal with your problem and b) that their death is worth more than their life to everyone involved. It quickly becomes apparent that you can't possibly know if killing someone is the right thing to do. And let's face it, even if it was possible to know these things you're probably biased on account of your personal involvement and couldn't possibly be more the wrong person to make that decision.

Sure there's a certain risk calculation to be made to determine the point at which killing a child molester to keep them from molesting children is the most reasonable course of action, but that would be proactive social engineering, and we're talking about reactive revenge, and we shouldn't confuse those two things because revenge is a bad idea that never works.

08-30-2013, 12:56 PM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	"Would You Murder Someone Who Molested Your Kid?" or "Should This Father Be Jailed?" Obviously, vigilante justice is illegal - A Time To Kill (should've) proved that. But I think you'd be hard pressed not to find a sympathetic jury.

08-30-2013, 01:35 PM	#2
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	You can be as Sumpathetic as you want, it still doesn't make it right. You can even go and say that the guy deserved, and i think you would be hard pressed to find someone to disagree with you on that... but killing him still isn't right. Not that in the middle of fury base bloodlust i would ever expect a father in that situation to know when he gave a punch too many, i wouldn't say he set out to simply murder someone by punches. But, he did it. To be honest... death is the easy way out. Yeah, one less creep out there. One more leech taking cash to survive until he dies in a concrete hole by himself, alone and isolated... but murdering him only gave him a few minutes of pain followed by absolutely nothing because he is fucking dead. Then what? You didn't undo what he did. You may have stopped him from ever doing it again, but jail can accomplish that too... even therapy in some cases... just tossing people in a jail system full of cracks and creases is not going to do a whole lot of good either... Still doesn't make cold (or hot) blooded murder ok though... __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

08-30-2013, 02:09 PM	#3
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	Put him in prison. Let him be the prison bitch. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

08-30-2013, 04:31 PM	#4
Grandmaster_Skweeb Doesn't care anymore Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,429	not that I will have kids, but if I did and someone bad touched: would crush the bonangles out of them. permanent type harm. if they did more than the bad touch..yeah, I'd hunt the fucker down. Last edited by Grandmaster_Skweeb; 08-30-2013 at 04:35 PM.

08-30-2013, 07:56 PM	#7
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	By the way. Rusty cheese grater... and said molester's junk. I'll leave the rest to your imagination. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

08-30-2013, 04:52 PM	#5
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081

08-30-2013, 10:52 PM	#8
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	If I caught them in the moment, yes I would. If I found out about it after the fact, I would think dearly about it, and probably plan it, but you know, I would probably lose my entire life (my job, access to my kids I'm avenging) if I botched the assassination, and that wouldn't make it worth it. So probably no.

08-31-2013, 05:11 AM	#10
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	The definition of murder is wrongful killing so no, that's probably not something you should do. In the heat of the moment, yes, it would certainly be understandable. But if you're going to kill someone on purpose, with forethought, you need to be sure that a) there's no other way to deal with your problem and b) that their death is worth more than their life to everyone involved. It quickly becomes apparent that you can't possibly know if killing someone is the right thing to do. And let's face it, even if it was possible to know these things you're probably biased on account of your personal involvement and couldn't possibly be more the wrong person to make that decision. Sure there's a certain risk calculation to be made to determine the point at which killing a child molester to keep them from molesting children is the most reasonable course of action, but that would be proactive social engineering, and we're talking about reactive revenge, and we shouldn't confuse those two things because revenge is a bad idea that never works. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed