Bye

[Kim]

I am coming back long enough to say that while I am glad RMB is gone for good for being a racist fuck, I still don't wanna particularly be here anymore.

Matt, there are some basic priorities every adult should have. One of those priorities is that racism is worse than rudeness. You decided that RMB had a right to say racist things on this forum without being insulted or banned as a result. Those are some fucked priorities. You should have known better. Frankly, there is zero excuse.

I'm still angry. I wanna just let things slide and go back to how they were but this isn't something I can just get over. I know that makes things harder or more complicated for others. I hate that. It causes me grief and guilt. However, I also trust that my anger is justified and that continuing to be angry is justified.

Right now, all I see is that Matt can get his priorities straight after the fact so long as the consequences for failing to do so are made abundantly clear. In this case, those consequences were losing friends and fans. People can continue being friends with Matt and continue being fans of his comic, as is their choice, but right now all Matt is to me is the guy who thinks "I'm racist against black people, particularly in groups" is perfectly acceptable free speech and "Go fuck yourself you racist fuck" is a bridge too far.

The effects of RMB's racism weren't isolated to that thread, as I pointed out, it informed his stances on other issues and the way he handled discussions. Even if he didn't say, "I'm racist against black people, particularly in groups" again, it's not like it would suddenly cease to be a factor in his posts. He'd still be a racist fuck. He'd still be taking racist fucking stances that erase the systemic racism of the US. It'd just be easier for Matt to ignore that and pretend nothing's wrong.

I am still angry. I am still disgusted. Matt should have known better. He should not have needed, "You're losing fans and friends so you can keep a racist around," to convince him RMB needed to go.

So, at least until my anger and disgust with Matt and anyone who might have agreed with his decision finally subsides, I don't really want to be here any more. Not on the forum. Not in chat. I have Twitter. I have Skype. I have Steam. The people who matter can still get in touch.

So, yeah. Bye.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

[shiney]

I don't get how you can be so blasé I mean I know that drama happens here but this is a direct result of someone literally saying they don't trust black men in pairs or groups. Like this isn't just someone offhandedly making an accidental insult.

I defended you a minute ago to someone but kind of wondering if that was the right choice.

[MSperoni]

I think you're strongly misjudging me, Kim.

Remember: I am not a dictator here. I listen to all sides of what people are saying, both mods and users, and try to make the best decision I can for the group. I have a lot of stuff going on, and I don't have access to every piece of information or past event. I thought a warning was a nice way of calming everyone down so we could see what to do later. I didn't realize it would set off a firestorm like it did. The reason I changed my mind was because of the appeals from Shiney and others explaining the situation a bit clearer and more rational.


RMB is a fan of the comic too, and actively supports and promotes it, and still is in spite of everything. So in effect I "lost" a fan from NPF.


What POS said about FRIENDS resonated a lot more with me than FANS.


But you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Amake]

I for one am glad RMB finally managed to give away what a disgusting person he is in a way that the staff was able to ban him for without bending on our rigid rule of law that'd be better suited to a community a hundred times bigger than this. And we only lost, what, a third of the best and brightest still around by drawing the process out too long?

That probably sounds more sarcastic than I really mean it. My expectations are just that low.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

So I still have the Pizza and Soda if anyone is interested.

[MSperoni]

I could go for a pizza.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Originally Posted by MSperoni

I could go for a pizza.

I have a few, I have meat lovers, veggie, 4 cheese and hawaiian

[Marc v4.0]

I understand the need for levity and all that, but some horseshit just drove my wife and girlfriend away from a forums we used to enjoy and love a great deal, perhaps the right place for it isn't in the middle of their goodbye thread.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Originally Posted by shiney

I don't get how you can be so blasé I mean I know that drama happens here but this is a direct result of someone literally saying they don't trust black men in pairs or groups. Like this isn't just someone offhandedly making an accidental insult.

I defended you a minute ago to someone but kind of wondering if that was the right choice.

How can I be so blasé? It's simple. The definition of the word itself explains why. I've seen it time and time again. I've moderated forums, I've admin'd game servers and their forums, I've hosted gaming groups. I've seen it all so much and so often that all there is left to do is just laugh at how hilarious the reaction is to RMB's latest bout of idiocy. A lot of this could've been avoided if past bannings for a number of troublemakers stayed permanent. Gonna point out right here and now that one of the bigger failings of the moderator team here is a propensity for second, third, fourth, and fifth chances. A ban kinda loses it's weight when an empty "I'm sorry, it won't happen again. Honest!" is all it takes to get it repealed.

So, my point being is reacting with indignation and righteous anger at every opinion and slight is no way to go through life.