Konami getting out of the console game...game.

Flarecobra · 05-14-2015, 05:45 PM

Several informative links.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ning-at-konami

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...like-a-parody/

Now, as to the why? In a nutshell, console games are just not worth making anymore for them, whereas there is still money in them mobile hills. Though to be honest, the writing is just on the wall for the past month.

Kyanbu The Legend · 05-14-2015, 06:40 PM

Even farther back then that. Ever since early gen 7 most of Konami's games just haven't been doing so well there (Console/PC wise). Granted that was also largely due to quality. especially with the Silent Hill and Z.O.E HD collections which were very buggy in the beginning until they were patched.

Combined with the fact that mobile and handheld games are doing well in Japan. This ended up being not too much of a surprise.

shiney · 05-14-2015, 09:14 PM

A good example of too much management and not enough creative team. I highly doubt Kojima is willing to drop the console market, and obviously Iga is moving on to better things (retread though they may somewhat be).

Solid Snake · 05-14-2015, 10:41 PM

Honestly, with all sorts of companies like Konami flooding a relatively soft market for mobile games, I'm fully expecting a variation of the 1980's video game crash in the not-too-distant future.

Mind you, it won't be as bad a crash as gaming has been proven as a profitable market and there will still be Indie content and a smattering of AAA titles churning out of outlets like Steam, but we'll still witness a downturn.

The AAA games are going to keep getting more and more expensive to produce, the risks will grow exponentially with each market failure, etc.
It also can't be a great thing that games releasing now are already too much for the PS4 and XBone's hardware to handle. It's been, what, two years since release? And Witcher 3 already strains the PS4 to its limit with below-30 FPS dips.

EDIT: I have a gut feeling either Sony or Microsoft is going to rush a PS4.5 or an XBox1.5 following Nintendo's lead on the 'New 3DS.' Like, couldn't you just see that happening, the way consoles are becoming more and more like PCs and how they're using easily upgradeable parts? We can already manually insert new hard drives. There will be some PS4 iteration that's like, "Pay more money and you get a better GPU in there!" And future games will be compatible with the New PS4 and the Old PS4, but look better on the new PS4 and some shit. And it'll be awful. It'll have a profoundly negative effect on the industry.

Grandmaster_Skweeb · 05-15-2015, 04:36 AM

What a horrible night to have a curse.

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Aerozord · 05-15-2015, 08:57 AM

I'm waiting for Sony to realize they can integrate a console into a TV and just stream content

Loyal · 05-15-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Honestly, with all sorts of companies like Konami flooding a relatively soft market for mobile games, I'm fully expecting a variation of the 1980's video game crash in the not-too-distant future.

Really? Because I've been seeing that outcome on the horizon for the past five years since I first learned the mobile game market was a thing.

I mean, this might speed it up, sure, but a market cannot sustain itself forever when by design it has near-zero QA, zero attempt to guard against stolen assets, dozens of clones for every half-decent game, and predatory and manipulative monetization schemes that would make a loan shark blush. The mobile game market is a cesspool that no respectable game dev should ever touch in its current state.

Kyanbu The Legend · 05-15-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord

I'm waiting for Sony to realize they can integrate a console into a TV and just stream content

They actually tried that with the PS2. Didn't sell as well as they hoped though.

... I still want one.

shiney · 05-15-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend

They actually tried that with the PS2. Didn't sell as well as they hoped though.

... I still want one.

Broadband and HD / flat-screen televisions were still a novelty in those days.

rpgdemon · 05-15-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

EDIT: I have a gut feeling either Sony or Microsoft is going to rush a PS4.5 or an XBox1.5 following Nintendo's lead on the 'New 3DS.' Like, couldn't you just see that happening, the way consoles are becoming more and more like PCs and how they're using easily upgradeable parts? We can already manually insert new hard drives. There will be some PS4 iteration that's like, "Pay more money and you get a better GPU in there!" And future games will be compatible with the New PS4 and the Old PS4, but look better on the new PS4 and some shit. And it'll be awful. It'll have a profoundly negative effect on the industry.

05-14-2015, 05:45 PM	#1
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	Konami getting out of the console game...game. Several informative links. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ning-at-konami http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...like-a-parody/ Now, as to the why? In a nutshell, console games are just not worth making anymore for them, whereas there is still money in them mobile hills. Though to be honest, the writing is just on the wall for the past month. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

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Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	Even farther back then that. Ever since early gen 7 most of Konami's games just haven't been doing so well there (Console/PC wise). Granted that was also largely due to quality. especially with the Silent Hill and Z.O.E HD collections which were very buggy in the beginning until they were patched. Combined with the fact that mobile and handheld games are doing well in Japan. This ended up being not too much of a surprise. __________________ Last edited by Kyanbu The Legend; 05-14-2015 at 06:49 PM.

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shiney Derrrrrrrrrrrrrp. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The land of fartz and buttz Posts: 8,266	A good example of too much management and not enough creative team. I highly doubt Kojima is willing to drop the console market, and obviously Iga is moving on to better things (retread though they may somewhat be). __________________ boop

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Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Honestly, with all sorts of companies like Konami flooding a relatively soft market for mobile games, I'm fully expecting a variation of the 1980's video game crash in the not-too-distant future. Mind you, it won't be as bad a crash as gaming has been proven as a profitable market and there will still be Indie content and a smattering of AAA titles churning out of outlets like Steam, but we'll still witness a downturn. The AAA games are going to keep getting more and more expensive to produce, the risks will grow exponentially with each market failure, etc. It also can't be a great thing that games releasing now are already too much for the PS4 and XBone's hardware to handle. It's been, what, two years since release? And Witcher 3 already strains the PS4 to its limit with below-30 FPS dips. EDIT: I have a gut feeling either Sony or Microsoft is going to rush a PS4.5 or an XBox1.5 following Nintendo's lead on the 'New 3DS.' Like, couldn't you just see that happening, the way consoles are becoming more and more like PCs and how they're using easily upgradeable parts? We can already manually insert new hard drives. There will be some PS4 iteration that's like, "Pay more money and you get a better GPU in there!" And future games will be compatible with the New PS4 and the Old PS4, but look better on the new PS4 and some shit. And it'll be awful. It'll have a profoundly negative effect on the industry. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text. Last edited by Solid Snake; 05-14-2015 at 10:44 PM.

05-15-2015, 04:36 AM	#5
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05-15-2015, 08:57 AM	#6
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	I'm waiting for Sony to realize they can integrate a console into a TV and just stream content __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."