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Unread 11-07-2007, 08:55 AM   #21
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i was right, muffin IS using dragoon! So...will red mage survive long enough to tell them?
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Unread 11-07-2007, 09:11 AM   #22
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In the original 8-Bit game, Tiamat had 4 heads, not 3. And personally, I won't be convinced that Muffin is Tiamat until he/she sprouts a few more.
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After some careful research, 8bit Tiamat does have 4. But in the remake she has 6, and I haven't the foggiest where I got the 3 head idea. Maybe FF9.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 01:53 PM   #23
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I don't think that RM fully understands that Muffin could be telling the truth. He seems to think that it's just some made up backstory similar to his example. He also seems kind of jealous of Muffin for having such a cool backstory.

I also don't think that Muffin is Tiamat. Working for Tiamat: Yes, is Tiamat: No.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 02:05 PM   #24
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Muffin is Tiamat, another massive portion of FF1 is lost, and it further descends into obscurity. Farewell Space Castle, I never knew ye'.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 02:24 PM   #25
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After some careful research, 8bit Tiamat does have 4. But in the remake she has 6, and I haven't the foggiest where I got the 3 head idea. Maybe FF9.
Tiamat is also referenced as being male in FF. At least in early games. What they tended to do was take names of gods/great people/etc. and slap them on whatever they wanted. Cases in point:

Shiva - Hindu god of the destruction and recreation of the universe. Male, but with female features. Often shown holding flame.
Kjata - A bull of four thousand each of eyes, ears, mouths, noses, tongues and feet, with a distance of a journey of 500 years between each of them that has a giant ruby on its back, on top of which is an angel holding Earth, Heaven, and Hell. Oh, yeah, it's also standing on Bahamut, which in turn is standing on a whale. How's that for complication?


Most of the others are arguable, if you get the background, but much of it is mistranslated somewhere in the shift of source>Japan>America.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 04:29 PM   #26
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I wonder if Muffin would be stupid enough to go against Bahamut, if he knew he was still alive...
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Unread 11-07-2007, 04:57 PM   #27
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I wonder if Muffin would be stupid enough to go against Bahamut, if he knew he was still alive...
No he would send Dragoon after him... as with all the others.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 06:16 PM   #28
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Tiamat's referenced in a bunch of RPGs as the first dragon, who gave birth to a lot of other "famous" dragons.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 07:58 PM   #29
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so is muffin the air fiend? it would explain why dragoon and muffin have the air orb, and yeah i guess red mage doesn't know muffin is telling the truth.
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Unread 11-07-2007, 09:10 PM   #30
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I loved the Inigo Montoya reference! The Princess Bride was one of the greatest movies ever.
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